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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/paul-tudo...-203418073.html

Legendary global macro trader Paul Tudor Jones is warning that asset prices are too high. And furthermore, he’s concerned about what the next recession might look like. He shared his thoughts on Monday during a conversation with Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein as part of the firm’s “Talks at GS” series.

The hedge fund billionaire, who rarely gives interviews or makes public comments on the markets, cautioned that across asset classes “you have to be thinking this is a highly dubious sustainable price.”

Jones doesn’t think the low interest rates we have now due to easy monetary policy are sustainable over time. He said that interest rate policy is “crazy.” He further argued that the Trump administration’s stimulative fiscal policy isn’t sustainable either.

“You look at prices of stocks, real estate, anything,” he said. “We’re going to have to mean revert to a normal real rate of interest with a normal term premium that’s existed for 250 years. We’re going to have to get back to that. We’re going to have to get back to a sustainable fiscal policy and that probably means the price of assets goes down in the very long run.”

In the short run, the market is “jacked up and ready to go,” he said. Blankfein added that it’s like “pouring lighter fluid on an already lit fire.”

“We don’t have any stabilizers”
During the financial crisis, central banks had a lot of room to ease monetary policy and governments had more flexibility to push stimulative fiscal policy. Today, there’s less room and flexibility.

“The next recession is really frightening because we don’t have any stabilizers,” Jones said. “We’ll have monetary policy, which will exhaust really quickly, but we don’t have any fiscal stabilizers.”


Paul Tudor Jones speaks with Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein as part of the firm’s “GS Talks” series.
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Jones, 63, began his career as a commodities trader in the cotton pits in the 1970s before transitioning to macro trading and founding his hedge fund, Tudor Investment Corp. He shot to notoriety after predicting the market crash of October 19, 1987, known as “Black Monday” when the Dow Jones dropped more than 22%.

“The one thing I’ve learned over the past 40 years — these price patterns it’s the same old story so often just with different characters, different times, different plots,” Jones said.

A year after his 1987 bet, he founded Robin Hood, a nonprofit dedicated to combating poverty in the New York City area. Over the last 30 years, Robin Hood has given away more than $3 billion.

In recent years, Jones’s philanthropic efforts have translated to the private sector. In 2013, with the help of Deepak Chopra, Rinaldo Brutoco, Arianna Huffington, Paul Scialla, and more, Jones co-founded JUST Capital, a nonprofit with a mission of promoting economic justice by engaging the public’s input. After surveying thousands of Americans on what this means, JUST has been compiling a list of the 100 “most just” companies.

Last week, JUST Capital partnered with Goldman Sachs (GS) Asset Management to launch the JUST U.S. Large Cap Equity ETF (JUST). The JUST ETF ended its first day of trading on Wednesday with $251 million in assets, making it the most successful ESG ETF launch ever.

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obviously the solution is to give the rich another 1.5 trill in tax cuts.


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Paul Tudor Jones Says Trading in the Second Half to Be ‘Phenomenal’

By Saijel Kishan
June 12, 2018, 8:44 AM EDT Updated on June 12, 2018, 9:35 AM EDT

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...o-be-phenomenal


New Goldman Sachs Fund Will Track Paul Tudor Jones’s Feel-Good Companies

By Andrew Ross Sorkin

June 11, 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/business/dealbook/goldman-sachs-paul-tudor-jones.html





Paul Tudor Jones, II.
Founder, Tudor Investment Corporation
Real Time Net Worth — as of 6/19/18
$4.5 B

Hedge fund manager Paul Tudor Jones II is known for his macro trades, particularly his bets on interest rates and currencies.
In 1980, he founded Tudor Investment Corporation, which had a long record of double digit annualized returns.
In recent years, however, returns have not been as strong and the firm has suffered redemptions from clients and layoffs.
The firm has since lowered some of its fees, and refocused by incorporating some quantitative trading methods.


https://www.forbes.com/profile/paul-tudor-jones-ii/

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This has been coming for 20 years now ... the longer we wait for it to BOTTOM OUT the worse the CRASH IS GONNA BE ...

U guys need someone to tell u this ... rofl ...

PS. We haven’t had a budget since Clinton that even attempted to adress the problems ... that includes my boys last budget ...

Anyone blaming O or Mr. President for this has NO CLUE ... the only difference between those two in this arena ...

Mr. President is trying to put his finger in the damm and slow things down a bit ...

O and his policies were like putting your foot on the gas pedal going from 55 to 95 when it comes to our fiscal well being ...

Neither of them was going to stop this ... NO ONE COULD HAVE ...

Any of u have ANY CLUE what so ever that around 80% of our federal budget is for entitlements and interest .... think about that for a minute ... it was 78% a few years ago ... and its not going down ... this year with the military spending the % may have went down ...

The ECONOMIC MODEL for our country has been upside down for 20 years now ... and it keeps getting worse ...

All ball breakin aside .. ITS SIMPLE MATH for anyone that pays attention and has a clue ...




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i'm trying to figure out why my post got deleted, yet the refs allow diam to keep posting crazy crap.

we all know what political leanings the refs have on this board. nothing new.

anyway, the market is dropping again. honestly, i'm not even gonna feel bad dumping cash in the market when everything is selling low.

is it legal for me to charge a stupidity fee for any trump supporter trying to rent one of my properties?


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Now you sound like OCD crying that everyone including the Refs conspired to suspend him.

Your post must have been a no no.

Move along now.

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It won't be bad at all for the CEO's, big oil, big pharma, and large corp's. They're all set now.


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Originally Posted By: Swish

is it legal for me to charge a stupidity fee for any trump supporter trying to rent one of my properties?


Sure. If they won't bake a cake for a gay wedding spouting religious rights. You can add whatever charges you want or not rent to them at all now. Murica!


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: Swish

is it legal for me to charge a stupidity fee for any trump supporter trying to rent one of my properties?


Sure. If they won't bake a cake for a gay wedding spouting religious rights. You can add whatever charges you want or not rent to them at all now.
THATS IT!! WE FIGURED IT OUT!! That is how you went from paying 12% to 25%, golly - and I thought it was because you were a democrat.......

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
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is it legal for me to charge a stupidity fee for any trump supporter trying to rent one of my properties?


Sure. If they won't bake a cake for a gay wedding spouting religious rights. You can add whatever charges you want or not rent to them at all now.
THATS IT!! WE FIGURED IT OUT!! That is how you went from paying 12% to 25%, golly - and I thought it was because you were a democrat.......


Nah I'd never rent my property to a Trump supporter, period


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If there is any justice in the world there will be a lot of Trump owned properties for sale soon! At an FBI Seizure Auction!

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
If there is any justice in the world there will be a lot of Trump owned properties for sale soon! At an FBI Seizure Auction!


If there was any justice in the world the FBI wouldn't exist.

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Do you include banks. We seem to have buttered their bread well. Just wondering.


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So you see the eventual pullback as a buying opportunity or not? Gotta be picky, but even limited stocks can have a great upside.

Just no good reason for this artificially imposed downturn IMO. Our worldview and judgment sucks IMO.


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Do you include banks. We seem to have buttered their bread well. Just wondering.


Banks won't get a bailout from the king of Debt.


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Won't be a recession as long as we continue this level of economic growth and the lowest unemployment in history.

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