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Trump is using it to bring the issue to a head, forcing Congress to do something about it.

The Democrats are using it because they finally have an issue to stick it to the Republicans and Trump on.

It is an election year!


In other words a large portion of the GOP & all the Trump faithful, support crimes against humanity. Typical and deplorable.

A crime is a crime until the Twitter freak in the WH commits them.


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No, as usual you are way over the top on every issue. rolleyes

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No, as usual you are way over the top on every issue. rolleyes


As usual, its a crime unless Trump does it.


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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

A Gallup poll released Monday showed President Trump earning his highest approval rating since shortly after he took office, even as his administration faces growing criticism over its immigration policies.

The Gallup poll found 45 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance as of Sunday, while 50 percent disapprove. The approval number matches Trump’s highest to date from Gallup. He previously received the same rating for the week ending on Jan. 29, 2017.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

A Gallup poll released Monday showed President Trump earning his highest approval rating since shortly after he took office, even as his administration faces growing criticism over its immigration policies.

The Gallup poll found 45 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance as of Sunday, while 50 percent disapprove. The approval number matches Trump’s highest to date from Gallup. He previously received the same rating for the week ending on Jan. 29, 2017.

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Yeah that was a few days before the 66% of all American's including the GOP now disapprove of Trump's policy to separate families. Of course you know you're on the wrong side of the issue once again. Who am I trying to kid?


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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

A Gallup poll released Monday showed President Trump earning his highest approval rating since shortly after he took office, even as his administration faces growing criticism over its immigration policies.

The Gallup poll found 45 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance as of Sunday, while 50 percent disapprove. The approval number matches Trump’s highest to date from Gallup. He previously received the same rating for the week ending on Jan. 29, 2017.

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Yeah that was a few days before the 66% of all American's including the GOP now disapprove of Trump's policy to separate families. Of course you know you're on the wrong side of the issue once again. Who am I trying to kid?


Yep. We'll see how his brown children's gulags play out in November.

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People should be able to come here if they wish, become citizens, and be like everyone else.
They can, its called LEGAL immigration.....



So why can't these families just cross over to our country, and become citizens? Why build a wall? Why block them at all? Why divide their families by ripping their children away???

All they have to do is allow them in, and get them on the path towards citizenship. Ya know, kind of like when your ancestors came here! Unless you're 100% Native American.

How dare these people do exactly what our ancestors did!!!!!!
Because 7 billion people on this planet cannot come to America, unchecked. You have to have to guidelines and limits on immigration, otherwise the economy and country will collapse......


Get real man, 7 billion people don't want to come to America! We aren't all that and a bag of chips! There's only a couple of countries that even want to think about coming here, and that's Cuba and Mexico. And even they have to strongly weight their options. This isn't the America of the 40's and 50's.

Stop with your RA RA 'Murica BS.


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Associated press is reporting that there are 3 tender age facilities holding about 300 kids all younger than 5 yrs old.

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Editorial: How many more Trump missteps can we tolerate?

Posted Jun 17, 2018 at 5:30 AM
As the reckless presidency of Donald Trump goes on, it is difficult to see how anyone would not be alarmed by the damage done to American values and interests at home and abroad.

Among the minority of Americans who approve of Trump, many say they do so despite his shortcomings. They might appreciate his disdain for politics as usual, his plain talk, his swaggering confidence. Many are willing to overlook past sins such as womanizing and current issues such as the chaotic turnover among his top staffers.

Some Republican politicians might privately lament his frequent departures from conservative policies and his disrespect for experience and expertise, but they decline to criticize him publicly. Perhaps they don’t want to give Democrats any help in the midterm elections; perhaps they fear running afoul of his intensely loyal base. (Just ask soon-to-be-former U.S. Rep. Mark Sanford, a Trump critic who just lost a South Carolina Republican primary election to an opponent who blasted him for his disloyalty to the president.)

While our disapproval and concern over Trump’s actions, policies and personality are strong, we understand that some Americans see things differently.

But his most-recent blunders — bulldozing through our most important international alliances, starting destructive trade disputes and blithely vouching for the character of one of the world’s most-vicious tyrants — make it harder to see how anyone can ignore the danger he poses.

Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and other Republicans in Congress, with their majority, should be using the powers available to the legislative branch to rein in this president and limit the damage. Their failure to do so, or even to say they disapprove, is a threat to democracy.

Most world leaders seem to have learned long ago that free, fair trade is the surest path to prosperity for all. Uncounted American companies — including many in Ohio — have thrived as part of an international economy that allows supply chains to cross borders without penalty.

All that is threatened now because Trump, whose business experience is limited to real-estate deals and bankruptcy but thinks he doesn’t need advice from anyone on anything, has a simple understanding of the world.

He seems to think he can impose tariffs on our best trading partners and strongest allies, preposterously suggesting that Canada poses a threat to our national security, with no consequence. He seems not to grasp that the U.S. market for automobiles, parts for which originate all over the world, could be slammed by his tariffs on steel and aluminum.


When Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau quite reasonably responded that his country would not be “pushed around” by the U.S., an enraged Trump staged a temper tantrum just after he left the G-7 summit last week. He called Trudeau “very dishonest & weak” on Twitter and, for good measure, reneged on the uncontroversial joint statement from the conference.

Americans are left to wonder whether our historical ties to the leaders of western democracy — Canada, Germany, the U.K. and others — will survive Trump’s assault.


Closer to home, blowing up our trading relationship with Canada could be a major hit to Ohio’s economy, especially agriculture, which is the state’s largest industry. Canada buys 40 percent of Ohio’s exports, or about $19 billion worth of goods last year.

Meanwhile, with whom is Trump trying to get along? The world’s worst autocrats. His creepy admiration for Russian President Vladimir Putin is well established; he further alienated the G-7 nations by insisting that Russia should be allowed back into the club of democratic nations from which it was expelled after forcibly annexing Crimea from Russia’s neighbor, Ukraine.

While Trump’s outreach to North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un is historic and could be worth pursuing in a careful way, he showed his gross naiveté, or ignorance, or both, by praising the dictator who has ordered the murder of family members and whose people are starving as “a funny guy” who “loves his country very much” and is “very talented” for having managed to inherit his father’s bloody dictatorship at age 26.

People who actually understand U.S.-North Korea relations agree that Trump made a huge concession — agreeing to suspend military exercises with South Korea that are an important part of our security guarantee to that ally — without securing a single commitment from North Korea that hasn’t been made before.

These blunders appear born of ignorance, arrogance and an utter disregard for classic western values.


Add to these the president’s profound lack of understanding of the constitutional limits on his power — he has asserted that he can’t be accused of obstructing justice and can pardon himself of crimes — and it becomes clear that only the Republicans who control Congress can stop this president from further damaging America’s standing in the world and well-being at home.

Unfortunately, Republican criticism of Trump’s destructive and autocratic ways comes mostly from those who are leaving Congress.

While Sen. Rob Portman expressed concern that the Canadian tariffs could hurt Ohio workers, he has done little to address Trump’s manifest unfitness for the office.

Outrageous behavior by this president is so common that Americans are becoming numb to it. The assault on civility, integrity and the rule of law is constant, and the danger is that our civic decency is like the frog in the pot of slowing heating water: Will the damage become irreparable before enough Americans realize the danger?


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Has Trump finally gone too far?





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Has Trump finally gone too far?







It's a shame political duels went out of vogue.

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Has Trump finally gone too far?

For many GOPers, they are being forced to stand at the crossroad....to support Trump's form of a GOP agenda rather than challenge their own value system...knowing your values are better than Trump's GOP.

You folks have to make a choice!


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Has Trump finally gone too far?

For many GOPers, they are being forced to stand at the crossroad....to support Trump's form of a GOP agenda rather than challenge their own value system...knowing your values are better than Trump's GOP.

You folks have to make a choice!


did you say the same thing when this was happening? I don't recall you doing so....

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The "agenda" is law and order, and a border under our control.

If you don't like what is happening to the kids, then stop crossing the border illegally. The people abusing these kids are their own parents. Separating children from abusive parents is correct procedure.

Governing by who has the best sob story is neither effective nor desirable.

No, he has not gone too far because the leftists are not actually setting their hair on fire, yet.

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The "agenda" is law and order, and a border under our control.

If you don't like what is happening to the kids, then stop crossing the border illegally. The people abusing these kids are their own parents. Separating children from abusive parents is correct procedure.

Governing by who has the best sob story is neither effective nor desirable.

No, he has not gone too far because the leftists are not actually setting their hair on fire, yet.
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Yet it's Trump who made it "zero tolerance" and created the situation and will now use children to bribe the other party into an immigration bill.

Using children for blackmail isn't a character strength.


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Watching Trump back down on this family separation and make others show support is just hilarious! Jumping like frog legs in a frying pan!

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I hate it...but Trump just flip-flopped, recognizing what a losing agenda his border policy was...but he is on thin ice..better watch his mouth and stop lying...and that is a tall order.

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Watching Trump back down on this family separation and make others show support is just hilarious! Jumping like frog legs in a frying pan!


Trump is one sick guy, basically asking the republicans to tell the world what a great job he's been doing.

...what is worse, everyone of those "strong repubs", are licking Trumps shoes, trying to sooth the butt hurt Trump must be feeling this afternoon.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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The "agenda" is law and order, and a border under our control.

If you don't like what is happening to the kids, then stop crossing the border illegally. The people abusing these kids are their own parents. Separating children from abusive parents is correct procedure.

Governing by who has the best sob story is neither effective nor desirable.

No, he has not gone too far because the leftists are not actually setting their hair on fire, yet.
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But judging by what little the Lefty Democrats have done in the last two years, without the tears they would be nonexistent.

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Yeah, the GOP controls the Congress, the Senate and the White House, but it's the lefties fault. lmao


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Trump failed bigly here and lost a ton of support from moral Americans that until now supported him despite his faults. But this was so bad it writes it's own political ads come election season. Trump just swiftboated the GOP and himself.

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Trump failed bigly here and lost a ton of support from moral Americans that until now supported him despite his faults. But this was so bad it writes it's own political ads come election season. Trump just swiftboated the GOP and himself.


Just watch, as soon as the dust settles on this debacle, they'll all get back in their neat little lines and goose step together down Mr Twitter's yellow brick rd to oz. Murica!


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Trump says he'll sign order stopping his policy of separating families at border

Administration officials say the executive order would allow families to be held in immigration detention together.

President Donald Trump, under pressure from angry members of his own party, said Wednesday that he would be "signing something in a little while" that would keep families together at the border, halting a policy he instituted earlier this year.

"I'll be doing something that's somewhat pre-emptive and ultimately will be matched by legislation I’m sure," Trump told reporters when asked if he wants to try to keep to families together at the U.S. border.

"I'll be signing something in a little while that’s going to do that," he said. "We want to solve this immigration problem." The signing was expected to take place later Wednesday afternoon.

Trump did not disclose exactly what he would be signing, but an administration official confirmed to NBC News that an executive order had been drafted by the departments of Justice and Homeland Security to temporarily stop separating children from the parents of people detained at the border.

Government officials familiar with early drafts of the executive order also told NBC News it would allow families to be detained together but would not stop the "zero tolerance" policy of charging people with a misdemeanor for entering illegally.

Several administration officials say the executive order would allow families to be held in immigration detention together. That will run up against a longstanding federal court decree that prohibits the government from holding children in detention for long periods — generally around 20 days.

The order will also move up hearings for families in detention, putting them at the head of the line, to speed up that processing, officials said.

It remains unclear how the government will get around the immediate separations that occur when the parents are charged with a crime and taken to court for entering illegally. But officials say they believe they have found a way to continue those charges without separating the children.

The president, nonetheless, doubled down on his hardline stance on immigration, saying that he "like to be strong" and that migrants were "using the children as a ticket to get into" the U.S.

Trump also announced that he'd canceled a Congressional picnic that had been scheduled for Thursday, saying the timing "just didn't feel right."

Trump's announcement contradict comments he made last week — he said Friday that when it came to keeping migrant families together, "you can't do it through executive order" — but follow intense and growing backlash to his administration's policy of separating children from parents who cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally. Many Republicans have demanded an end to the policy, and bills are under consideration in Congress that would halt it.

Pressure grew Tuesday night after The Associated Press reported that Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas.

First lady Melania Trump has also been a factor, a source familiar with the matter told NBC News. According the source, Mrs. Trump has been having private discussions behind the scenes in order to try to end the separation of kids and families at the border.

The House is set to vote on Thursday on two immigration bills: A more conservative bill authored by Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and a compromise immigration bill.

Following Trump's remarks, roughly two dozen House Republicans headed to the White House to discuss the measures.

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Kirstjen Nielsen is drafting an order to end a policy she claimed didn't exist 2 days ago?



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We all knew that was BS. At least those of us willing to admit it.


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Kirstjen Nielsen is drafting an order to end a policy she claimed didn't exist 2 days ago?



She had an enlightening dinner meeting last night.

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I'm sure the mexican food was good.


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I'm sure the mexican food was good.


That reminds me..... I need to ask my wife to make a batch of chicken enchiladas with green sauce. Mmmmmm....


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OCD..play president and tell us your vision of how you would deal with this? Hating Trump and calling him out with out giving any VIABLE OPTIONS to solve the problem you decry is....well...rather silly.

I have 4 options...tell me what sounds good and viable.

1. Turn all asylum seekers and boarder crossers away at the boarder.

2. Status Quo processing asylum seekers

3. Allow kids to be held in adult detention centers with their parents. Current law does not permit kids and adults to be housed together if I am not mistaken.

4. Allow adults with kids a free pass into the US with a pricipal's note telling them they have to report for court in 6 months.

The real solution lies with creating an environment in which these people don't want to leave their country. However, most of these countries that produces asylum seekers (if they are really truly seek asylum) are run by left leaning philosophies and I can only imagine the pain that you would feel to have to admit that maybe the left leaning ideologies forund in these countries are the source of the problems. I see left leaning cities like Detroit and Chicago and any other large metropolitan area being a microcosm of these countries. The mirror don't lie

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Just wait....predicting the over the top outrage that will come from the usual suspects once one of the kids reunited with parents in the detention center get abused and assaulted..they will demand that the kids be kept separted from the atrocities that will happen just like they did in the NO Superdome during Katrina

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It's over now. Trump is using his pen to solve the situation he created.


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Just wait....predicting the over the top outrage that will come from the usual suspects once one of the kids reunited with parents in the detention center get abused and assaulted..they will demand that the kids be kept separted from the atrocities that will happen just like they did in the NO Superdome during Katrina


What a bunch of BS. Trump created the entire problem by changing the policy. He knew it would separate families and he didn't care one little bit until his own party reamed him a new one. Stop with the false narratives. Trump was wrong and now he'll claim victory for fixing what he broke.


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