You sure keep doing all you can to distract from the current POTUS's kidnapping babies... 2300! That's almost half of your post count! And they don't know how they are going to get them back to their parents!
But hey, you keep on Trumpin' like it means sumptin'!
Obama was not right in what he allowed either, and if he had done this I would have condemned him too. Now let's see if you are big enough to condemn Trump.
Fake News: Iconic Crying Migrant Girl Was Never Separated from Mother, Says Father
21 Jun 2018 The father of the tearful two-year-old Honduran migrant girl who became the face of the “family separation” news coverage says that his young daughter was never actually separated from her mother when caught by U.S. Border Patrol.
Instead, he says, his daughter and her mother are together in U.S. custody at “at a family residential center in Texas.”
Moreover, the mother had been deported from the U.S. in 2013, according to a statement given by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to Buzzfeed on Thursday evening.
Denis Javier Varela Hernandez, 32, told the UK Daily Mail that his wife Sandra, 32, had taken their daughter, Yanela Denise, on a dangerous journey to the U.S. on June 3 without telling him. They had since been in touch, he said, and he learned the two had been detained together but never separated.
Yanela Denise became an iconic symbol of opposition to the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy, under which adults who cross the border illegally are prosecuted. As a result, children traveling with migrant adults are often taken to shelters separately until they can be reunited with their parents, a family member, or a sponsor.
Getty Images photographer John Moore took the famous photograph of Yanela Denise standing on the ground and looking up in tears while a McAllen, Texas, Border Patrol agent searched her mother next to a patrol vehicle.
The image spread like a California grassfire. Time Magazine used a cutout of the little girl on its recent cover, where she was depicted confronting President Donald Trump.
Multiple news outlets used the photograph as a symbol of the pain of families being separated by U.S. government officials. A Facebook fundraiser that used the photograph to solicit funds to help reunite families has already raised nearly $20 million, becoming the single largest crowdfunding campaign in the history of the social media platform.
Getty Images captioned the photograph by indicating that the mother and daughter had been “sent to a processing center for possible separation” (emphasis added). Moore told the Washington Post earlier this week that he had assumed they would be separated: “In his head, he weighed the girl’s chances. According to new federal policies, he said, she would be taken from her mother when the van reached its destination.
They would not be reunited until their case had wound through the courts, and then likely only to return to the country they had fled.” However, Moore did not appear to confirm whether the two had, in fact, been separated.
Now, Hernandez says that his wife and daughter were never separated by Border Patrol agents and that they remain together. Hernandez also told the Daily Mail that he did not support his wife Sandra’s decision to leave their home and travel through dangerous conditions to seek political asylum in the U.S.: “I didn’t support it. I asked her, why? Why would she want to put our little girl through that? But it was her decision at the end of the day.
“I don’t have any resentment for my wife, but I do think it was irresponsible of her to take the baby with her in her arms because we don’t know what could happen,” he told the Daily Mail. He said she had talked about going to the United States for a “better future” but she did not say she had made the decision to take the 1,800-mile trip — paying a “coyote” smuggler $6,000 to take them. When Sandra left on her journey with Yanela, she left Hernandez behind with three other children — Wesly (14), Cindy (11), and Brianna (6).
Though he said she had planned to apply for political asylum, Hernandez did not mention any political persecution that might have justified the claim.
He also said that he was employed: “I thank God that I have a good job here.” Hernandez said that the first news of his wife’s and daughter’s fate came when he saw Moore’s photograph.
He also told the Daily Mail that officials told him on Wednesday that his wife and child are together in Texas and are “doing fine,” he said. In an interview with Univision (in Spanish), Hernandez cried as he described his feelings about the situation:
White House correspondent Saagar Enjeti said the interview with the father shows that the family was never separated by government officials, as portrayed by the media. Enjeti observed that his wife came to the U.S. for economic reasons, not fear of violence, and the he was unhappy with her for taking his little girl on very dangerous journey.
The ICE statement to Buzzfeed read: On June 12, 2018, Sandra Maria Sanchez, 32, a previously deported woman from Honduras illegally re-entered the United States,” . She was arrested by agents with U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s (CBP) Border Patrol near Hidalgo, Texas, while traveling with a family member. On June 17, 2018, Sanchez was transferred to ICE custody, and is currently housed at the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas. Her immigration proceedings are ongoing. On July 3, 2013, Sanchez was encountered by immigration officials in Hebbronville, Texas. On July 9, 2013, she was transferred to ICE ERO custody. On July 18, 2013, Sanchez was removed to Honduras under expedited removal.
Fake News: Iconic Crying Migrant Girl Was Never Separated from Mother, Says Father
I just read that this morning. Wow.
Any outrage over the mother separating her from her family (father).......didn't think so.
Still beating the drum of denial I see! 2300 Children were taken at the border on orders of the FAKE PRESIDENT! It was early and often reported that nobody was certain what happened with that particular child, but the traumatic experience she went through that night was captured on film.
Simple fact is that if you are still pounding Trumps drum, then you too are complicit in the kidnapping of children, child abuse, and degradation of America; that's who you ARE!
And there is certainly NO OUTRAGE against this mother trying to bring the child to a place of safety and seeking asylum. SHAME ON YOU FOR SUGGESTING THAT.
First off, I have stated multiple times I was for keeping them together. Maybe you should learn to read a little bit better. . . .
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Simple fact is that if you are still pounding Trumps drum, then you too are complicit in the kidnapping of children, child abuse, and degradation of America; that's who you ARE!
Read my above statement, and for all we know, this little girl was kidnapped from her father, and you are perfectly ok with that. THATS WHO YOU ARE!
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And there is certainly NO OUTRAGE against this mother trying to bring the child to a place of safety and seeking asylum. SHAME ON YOU FOR SUGGESTING THAT.
I am holding my outrage against this mother until I know all the facts. If she took this child away from the father, which is suggested by the father BTW, then yes, that irks me.
You talk about kidnapping and being for the children. Weird, no outrage over these parents that send little babies across the country by themselves with nothing but a phone number written on their arms. No outrage over the parents that send 12 year old girls with plan b pills because THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO GET RAPED....No outraged over the parents who leave their kids to die at the hands of sex traffickers.....please, if YOU are questioning my morals, then I KNOW I am on the right path. . . .
The most damning element of this tragic American tale
By Joe Scarborough June 21 at 6:58 PM
There was a time when conservatives supported limited government, balanced budgets and less debt. Not so long ago, conservatives also championed free trade, lower tariffs and the spread of democratic institutions across Europe and the world. And yes, conservatives spent the past generation championing an American exceptionalism with values casting our great country as a city shining brightly on a hill for all the world to see.
Onetime Fox News president Roger Ailes was fond of saying, “America has fed and freed more people than any country in the history of the world.” Ronald Reagan launched his historic 1980 presidential campaign with the Statue of Liberty as his backdrop . He framed America’s relationship with immigration in 1981 this way: “Our nation is a nation of immigrants. More than any other country, our strength comes from our immigrant heritage and our capacity to welcome those from other lands.”
Reagan took a position on immigration that most Republicans today would consider heresy, yet voters rewarded him with a decisive victory and a landslide reelection a few years later. Far less popular has been President Trump’s politically toxic policy of ripping children from their mothers’ arms. That depraved stance, adopted as a bargaining chip to use against Democrats, garnered support from only 17 percent of Americans . But it did earn him the antipathy of our closest allies, Pope Francis and every living former first lady .
Rosalynn Carter said in a statement, “The practice and policy today of removing children from their parents’ care is disgraceful and a shame to our country.”
Laura Bush wrote in The Post, “Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children... These images are eerily reminiscent of the internment camps for U.S. citizens and noncitizens of Japanese descent... now considered to be one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history.” Michelle Obama seconded Bush’s sentiments, saying that “sometimes truth transcends party.”
When asked about the United States’ simmering border crisis, Pope Francis told Reuters, “Creating psychosis is not the cure... Populism does not resolve things. What resolves things is acceptance, study, prudence.”
British Prime Minister Theresa May told Parliament, “The pictures of children being held in what appears to be cages are deeply disturbing. This is wrong.”
With the incarceration of more than 2,300 infants, toddlers and children unresolved, Trump’s policy of breaking up families remains an open wound on America’s character and a political crisis for the few Republicans who still believe they can salvage November’s midterm elections.
A conservative former intelligence operative grimly recounted to me on Thursday how much the handling of these displaced children reminded him of the CIA facilities where terrorists were secretly held and interrogated after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001: “This reminds me of our black sites, except we were holding 100 or so adult terrorists for the killing of American citizens. Now 2,300 kids are held in unknown locations with unknown individuals inside and absolutely no outside observation.”
Trump’s obsession with wall-building and zero-tolerance has led Americans to this grim political spectacle. His personal cruelty and political ignorance have created a crisis that will kill conservative immigration reform and lead to future Democratic majorities. More troubling is the harsh reality now staring Americans in the face: Their president is a brutish political boss who has cheapened conservatism, sullied the office of the presidency and called into question the very character of a country once seen as the envy of the world. That so many Republicans still support this depraved man and his malignant movement could be the most damning element of this tragic American tale.
Eleven MS-13 gang members – all of whom are illegal immigrants except one – are facing life in prison after being charged in the kidnappings and deaths of two teens whose bodies were dug up in a Virginia park last year.
The ages of the male gang members charged Friday ranged from 20 to 27. All of them are from El Salvador and only one – who is believed to have fled the country – is not in police custody, according to NBC Washington.
Police uncovered the bodies of 17-year-old Edvin Escobar Mendez and 14-year-old Sergio Arita Triminio at Holmes Run Park in March 2017 after receiving a tip.
The two teens disappeared just weeks apart the prior year.
REMAINS OF SUSPECTED MS-13 MURDER VICTIM UNEARTHED IN NEW YORK, POLICE SAY
After Mendez vanished and was reported missing by his family, his brother tracked down Triminio - one of his friends - who revealed to him that Mendez was “abducted or killed” because the MS-13 members thought he was allied with a rival gang.
Two days after that reported conversation, Triminio, who lived near Holmes Run Park, disappeared while taking out the trash.
Investigators believe Triminio was killed because the MS-13 members thought he was working as a police informant, a federal indictment said. A court-ordered electronic monitoring device that Triminio was wearing, per his probation orders, stopped working the day he vanished, the documents added.
All but one of the men facing the conspiracy to kidnap charges are reported to be illegal immigrants, and one suspect is facing a conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering charge.
The names of those charged are Elmer Zelaya Martinez, 27, Erick Palacios Ruiz, 20, Ronald Herrera Contreras, 20, Josue Vigil Mejia, 21, Henry Zelaya Martinez, 24, Oscar Contreras Aguilar, 20, Yonathan Melgar Martinez, 21, Pablo Miguel Barrera Velasco, 20, Anderson Villatoro, 21, Francisco Avila Avalos, 20 and Fredys Baires Abarca, 20. Their gang member aliases included nicknames such as "Killer", "Horror" and "Lil Clandestino".
All of them are charged with conspiracy to kidnap, while Aguilar is also charged with conspiracy to commit murder in aid ofracketeering.
MS-13 was started by Central American immigrants, mainly from El Salvador, in Los Angeles in the 1980s and has expanded to include Hondurans, Guatamalans, Mexicans and other Central and South Americans.
President Trump's Justice and Homeland Security Departments have made targeting the gang a top priority. The president himself has used the word "animals" to describe the gang.
Who will outcry for the teens ripped from their parents forever!
Conservatives: "Did you see where that illegal immigrant raped and killed all those people? We need to get them all out!!!"
Also Conservatives: "Whoa, whoa... just because this one dude walked into a school with an AR-15 and shot a bunch of people doesn't mean all gun owners and AR-15s are evil."
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Trump meeting with 'angel families' whose loved ones were killed by illegal immigrants
By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Friday, June 22, 2018 Amid the outcry over illegal immigrant children separated from their families, President Trump is meeting at the White House Friday with “Angel Families” — U.S. citizens whose loved ones were killed by illegal immigrants.
Mr. Trump gave a preview of sorts of the meeting in a tweet Friday morning.
“We must maintain a Strong Southern Border,” he said. “We cannot allow our Country to be overrun by illegal immigrants as the Democrats tell their phony stories of sadness and grief, hoping it will help them in the elections. Obama and others had the same pictures, and did nothing about it!”
The president will once again put the spotlight on tragedies such as the death of Kate Steinle, who was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant in San Francisco in 2015. The gunman had been deported several times but returned to the U.S.
Some “angel parents” whose children were killed by illegal immigrants have formed a grass-roots organization in California called Fight Sanctuary State, seeking to promote more cooperation between state and local authorities with federal immigration enforcement agents.
Making light of the horrible deaths of those 2 teen?
Shame!
Yet when teens stand up for gun control after a mass school shooting you blame the media for them expressing their feelings about the deaths of their fellow students they are mourning.
Shame!
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Eleven MS-13 gang members – all of whom are illegal immigrants except one – are facing life in prison after being charged in the kidnappings and deaths of two teens whose bodies were dug up in a Virginia park last year.
The ages of the male gang members charged Friday ranged from 20 to 27. All of them are from El Salvador and only one – who is believed to have fled the country – is not in police custody, according to NBC Washington.
Police uncovered the bodies of 17-year-old Edvin Escobar Mendez and 14-year-old Sergio Arita Triminio at Holmes Run Park in March 2017 after receiving a tip.
The two teens disappeared just weeks apart the prior year.
REMAINS OF SUSPECTED MS-13 MURDER VICTIM UNEARTHED IN NEW YORK, POLICE SAY
After Mendez vanished and was reported missing by his family, his brother tracked down Triminio - one of his friends - who revealed to him that Mendez was “abducted or killed” because the MS-13 members thought he was allied with a rival gang.
Two days after that reported conversation, Triminio, who lived near Holmes Run Park, disappeared while taking out the trash.
Investigators believe Triminio was killed because the MS-13 members thought he was working as a police informant, a federal indictment said. A court-ordered electronic monitoring device that Triminio was wearing, per his probation orders, stopped working the day he vanished, the documents added.
All but one of the men facing the conspiracy to kidnap charges are reported to be illegal immigrants, and one suspect is facing a conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering charge.
The names of those charged are Elmer Zelaya Martinez, 27, Erick Palacios Ruiz, 20, Ronald Herrera Contreras, 20, Josue Vigil Mejia, 21, Henry Zelaya Martinez, 24, Oscar Contreras Aguilar, 20, Yonathan Melgar Martinez, 21, Pablo Miguel Barrera Velasco, 20, Anderson Villatoro, 21, Francisco Avila Avalos, 20 and Fredys Baires Abarca, 20. Their gang member aliases included nicknames such as "Killer", "Horror" and "Lil Clandestino".
All of them are charged with conspiracy to kidnap, while Aguilar is also charged with conspiracy to commit murder in aid ofracketeering.
MS-13 was started by Central American immigrants, mainly from El Salvador, in Los Angeles in the 1980s and has expanded to include Hondurans, Guatamalans, Mexicans and other Central and South Americans.
President Trump's Justice and Homeland Security Departments have made targeting the gang a top priority. The president himself has used the word "animals" to describe the gang.
Who will outcry for the teens ripped from their parents forever!
This happened because we deported them. We created this problem and shipped it to the communities that people are fleeing to come to safety. Then we send innocent people back to be killed.
In those communities the governments either can't handle or don't care about the gangs crimes, so they do whatever they want. The average age of the recruits is 9 years old, 9 YEARS OLD!
Would you want to raise your 9 year old child in that environment? This is truly a life and death situation created at it's root by American politics and you would have us turn our backs on these victims fleeing because the STATE MEDIA under the FAKE PRESIDENT keeps you inundated with fear mongering horror stories to make normal people boogeymen. Of course you lap it up like bigot chow and beat the ole propaganda drum like a lemming. This is who YOU ARE and what you want AMERICA TO BECOME.
Why not, we've stopped being America in almost every other aspect under the illegitimate FAKE PRESIDENT.
illegitimate and fake?
YES, absolutely.
Illegitimate because the Russians and other foreign actors interfered to help him win, he lost the popular vote, and the electoral college made him president due in big part to gerrymandering.
Fake because he and his administration demonstrably lie about everything on a daily basis! FAKE FAKE FAKE.
Now we can add CHILD ABUSING to his title.
The CHILD ABUSING ILLEGITIMATE FAKE PRESIDENT!
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Seriously, after the known interference of Russian Hacking, Russian propaganda bots, Cambridge Analytica, WikiLeaks, and Comey's reporting as well as the loss of the popular vote compounded by the crazy gerrymandering behind the electoral college and all the dark money inpolitics; Can you really say with all honesty that you think he is "Duly Elected" under the Constitution and Laws of the Land as intended by the Forefathers?
I don't think either he or HRC could have or should have been considered as duly elected. The system is truly rigged and until we fix it we will have illegitimate leadership, Trump is just the first of many to come.
Italy refuses rescue ship carrying 224 migrants to dock: '[They] will only see Italy on a postcard'
Italy’s new hardline, anti-immigrant interior minister has refused port to a Dutch-flagged rescue ship carrying more than 200 migrants because it is now in Maltese waters.
Salvini, whose right-wing League is in a populist coalition government elected three weeks ago, has said he wants to “stop the mafia of illegal immigration” and has likened rescue ships like the Lifeline to taxi services that finish the job for people smugglers.
He added that those on board the ship "will only see Italy on a postcard".
Merkel tries to quell immigration row threatening to topple Germany’s ruling coalition
Coalition partner CSU has grown increasingly hostile to Merkel’s open-border refugee policy.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel turned to her European neighbors this weekend for help with a fierce domestic dispute over immigration that is threatening to topple her three-party coalition.
Aides to the chancellor reached out to the governments of several European Union members on the front line of the continent’s immigration crisis to sound out their willingness to readmit migrants that try to cross from their territory into Germany, European officials said on Sunday.
Among those approached were the governments of Austria, Greece, Italy and Bulgaria, the officials said. Berlin also liaised with the European Commission, the EU’s executive body.
Merkel’s move came after her own interior minister, Horst Seehofer, handed the chancellor an ultimatum last week, warning that he could close the country’s borders to certain categories of illegal migrants as early as Monday.
Italy refuses rescue ship carrying 224 migrants to dock: '[They] will only see Italy on a postcard'
Italy’s new hardline, anti-immigrant interior minister has refused port to a Dutch-flagged rescue ship carrying more than 200 migrants because it is now in Maltese waters.
Salvini, whose right-wing League is in a populist coalition government elected three weeks ago, has said he wants to “stop the mafia of illegal immigration” and has likened rescue ships like the Lifeline to taxi services that finish the job for people smugglers.
He added that those on board the ship "will only see Italy on a postcard".
All around the World the tide is changing. Open borders and uncontrolled immigration is ending. Governments fall while the Globalists are replaced by the Will and the Strength of the People.
Your world vanishes before your eyes, rejected by your fellow man.
Your cause and agenda are drying up like a tumbleweed in the desert and just blowing away.
The People are standing up and proudly Making Their Countries Great Again!
Eleven MS-13 gang members – all of whom are illegal immigrants except one – are facing life in prison after being charged in the kidnappings and deaths of two teens whose bodies were dug up in a Virginia park last year.
The ages of the male gang members charged Friday ranged from 20 to 27. All of them are from El Salvador and only one – who is believed to have fled the country – is not in police custody, according to NBC Washington.
Police uncovered the bodies of 17-year-old Edvin Escobar Mendez and 14-year-old Sergio Arita Triminio at Holmes Run Park in March 2017 after receiving a tip.
The two teens disappeared just weeks apart the prior year.
REMAINS OF SUSPECTED MS-13 MURDER VICTIM UNEARTHED IN NEW YORK, POLICE SAY
After Mendez vanished and was reported missing by his family, his brother tracked down Triminio - one of his friends - who revealed to him that Mendez was “abducted or killed” because the MS-13 members thought he was allied with a rival gang.
Two days after that reported conversation, Triminio, who lived near Holmes Run Park, disappeared while taking out the trash.
Investigators believe Triminio was killed because the MS-13 members thought he was working as a police informant, a federal indictment said. A court-ordered electronic monitoring device that Triminio was wearing, per his probation orders, stopped working the day he vanished, the documents added.
All but one of the men facing the conspiracy to kidnap charges are reported to be illegal immigrants, and one suspect is facing a conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering charge.
The names of those charged are Elmer Zelaya Martinez, 27, Erick Palacios Ruiz, 20, Ronald Herrera Contreras, 20, Josue Vigil Mejia, 21, Henry Zelaya Martinez, 24, Oscar Contreras Aguilar, 20, Yonathan Melgar Martinez, 21, Pablo Miguel Barrera Velasco, 20, Anderson Villatoro, 21, Francisco Avila Avalos, 20 and Fredys Baires Abarca, 20. Their gang member aliases included nicknames such as "Killer", "Horror" and "Lil Clandestino".
All of them are charged with conspiracy to kidnap, while Aguilar is also charged with conspiracy to commit murder in aid ofracketeering.
MS-13 was started by Central American immigrants, mainly from El Salvador, in Los Angeles in the 1980s and has expanded to include Hondurans, Guatamalans, Mexicans and other Central and South Americans.
President Trump's Justice and Homeland Security Departments have made targeting the gang a top priority. The president himself has used the word "animals" to describe the gang.
Who will outcry for the teens ripped from their parents forever!
This happened because we deported them. We created this problem and shipped it to the communities that people are fleeing to come to safety. Then we send innocent people back to be killed.
In those communities the governments either can't handle or don't care about the gangs crimes, so they do whatever they want. The average age of the recruits is 9 years old, 9 YEARS OLD!
Would you want to raise your 9 year old child in that environment? This is truly a life and death situation created at it's root by American politics and you would have us turn our backs on these victims fleeing because the STATE MEDIA under the FAKE PRESIDENT keeps you inundated with fear mongering horror stories to make normal people boogeymen. Of course you lap it up like bigot chow and beat the ole propaganda drum like a lemming. This is who YOU ARE and what you want AMERICA TO BECOME.
Wait.......ms 13 was created by the u.s. gov't, because the gov't deported some people? Is that what you're saying?
All around the World the tide is changing. Open borders and uncontrolled immigration is ending. Governments fall while the Globalists are replaced by the Will and the Strength of the People.
Your world vanishes before your eyes, rejected by your fellow man.
Your cause and agenda are drying up like a tumbleweed in the desert and just blowing away.
The People are standing up and proudly Making Their Countries Great Again!
Eleven MS-13 gang members – all of whom are illegal immigrants except one – are facing life in prison after being charged in the kidnappings and deaths of two teens whose bodies were dug up in a Virginia park last year.
The ages of the male gang members charged Friday ranged from 20 to 27. All of them are from El Salvador and only one – who is believed to have fled the country – is not in police custody, according to NBC Washington.
Police uncovered the bodies of 17-year-old Edvin Escobar Mendez and 14-year-old Sergio Arita Triminio at Holmes Run Park in March 2017 after receiving a tip.
The two teens disappeared just weeks apart the prior year.
REMAINS OF SUSPECTED MS-13 MURDER VICTIM UNEARTHED IN NEW YORK, POLICE SAY
After Mendez vanished and was reported missing by his family, his brother tracked down Triminio - one of his friends - who revealed to him that Mendez was “abducted or killed” because the MS-13 members thought he was allied with a rival gang.
Two days after that reported conversation, Triminio, who lived near Holmes Run Park, disappeared while taking out the trash.
Investigators believe Triminio was killed because the MS-13 members thought he was working as a police informant, a federal indictment said. A court-ordered electronic monitoring device that Triminio was wearing, per his probation orders, stopped working the day he vanished, the documents added.
All but one of the men facing the conspiracy to kidnap charges are reported to be illegal immigrants, and one suspect is facing a conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering charge.
The names of those charged are Elmer Zelaya Martinez, 27, Erick Palacios Ruiz, 20, Ronald Herrera Contreras, 20, Josue Vigil Mejia, 21, Henry Zelaya Martinez, 24, Oscar Contreras Aguilar, 20, Yonathan Melgar Martinez, 21, Pablo Miguel Barrera Velasco, 20, Anderson Villatoro, 21, Francisco Avila Avalos, 20 and Fredys Baires Abarca, 20. Their gang member aliases included nicknames such as "Killer", "Horror" and "Lil Clandestino".
All of them are charged with conspiracy to kidnap, while Aguilar is also charged with conspiracy to commit murder in aid ofracketeering.
MS-13 was started by Central American immigrants, mainly from El Salvador, in Los Angeles in the 1980s and has expanded to include Hondurans, Guatamalans, Mexicans and other Central and South Americans.
President Trump's Justice and Homeland Security Departments have made targeting the gang a top priority. The president himself has used the word "animals" to describe the gang.
Who will outcry for the teens ripped from their parents forever!
This happened because we deported them. We created this problem and shipped it to the communities that people are fleeing to come to safety. Then we send innocent people back to be killed.
In those communities the governments either can't handle or don't care about the gangs crimes, so they do whatever they want. The average age of the recruits is 9 years old, 9 YEARS OLD!
Would you want to raise your 9 year old child in that environment? This is truly a life and death situation created at it's root by American politics and you would have us turn our backs on these victims fleeing because the STATE MEDIA under the FAKE PRESIDENT keeps you inundated with fear mongering horror stories to make normal people boogeymen. Of course you lap it up like bigot chow and beat the ole propaganda drum like a lemming. This is who YOU ARE and what you want AMERICA TO BECOME.
Wait.......ms 13 was created by the u.s. gov't, because the gov't deported some people? Is that what you're saying?
I'm saying it was an american born problem that we shipped south.
So, you're saying that deporting illegals back to where they came from is what caused them to come back here and create a violent gang?
No. Sending gang members back there caused the south american offspring. MS-13 was born in LA and US Prisons. The people coming here now are fleeing the horrors we exported to them.
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History The Mara Salvatrucha gang originated in Los Angeles, set up in the 1980s by Salvadoran immigrants in the city's Pico-Union neighborhood who immigrated to the United States after the Central American civil wars of the 1980s.[18]
Originally, the gang's main purpose was to protect Salvadoran immigrants from other, more established gangs of Los Angeles, who were predominantly composed of Mexicans and African-Americans.[19]
Many Mara Salvatrucha gang members from the Los Angeles area have been deported after being arrested.[20] For example, Jose Abrego, a high-ranking member, was deported four times.[21] As a result of these deportations, members of MS-13 have recruited more members in their home countries.[22] The Los Angeles Times contends that deportation policies have contributed to the size and influence of the gang both in the United States and in Central America.[20] According to the 2009 National Gang Threat Assessment, "The gang is estimated to have 30,000 to 50,000 members and associate members worldwide, 8,000 to 10,000 of whom reside in the United States.[1]
Illegals came. They got deported. They came back and created a gang. A violent gang. Yup. started in California.
By illegals.
And somehow these illegals forming a gang and recruiting others is the gov't. fault?
Is that what you are saying? If so, wow. I suppose, in your mind, we should've not deported them. That way, they could've gotten jobs and..........wait - no, they wouldn't have.
So, in essence, you, and wiki, are saying we should've just let the gang be here in the first place. Illegal and all.
Sometimes, understanding illegal, and doing something forceful about it, stops the problem.
Or maybe we should have kept them in prison, tried to reform them, addressed the whole LA gang situation better instead of 'infesting' south america with our home grown gang banger invasive species.
But I get your logic, if they are killing there they are not killing here... except they turned that plan on it's ass and against us. We created a breeding grounds for a US gang on the rise.
Your human ping pong solution of keep sending them back is only hurting innocent people in both countries.
So, you're saying this gang that came here illegally, should've been imprisoned instead of deported. Imprisoned illegals, at your expense.
Somehow this is the go't.s fault? You're losing me here.
What part of the gang started here, was formed here, was created here don't you get? Is that concept too big for you or something? You're beginning to look foolish.
The original immigration might have been legal due to the civil wars, idk do you?
Illegals came here. Formed a gang. They got sent back to where they came from. They came back.
And it's our fault. In your mind.
Should've just let them illegals be here from the beginning. I'm sure they wouldn't have become violent if only we'd have done that. Damn the U.S. for enforcing laws.
Illegals came here. Formed a gang. They got sent back to where they came from. They came back.
And it's our fault. In your mind.
Should've just let them illegals be here from the beginning. I'm sure they wouldn't have become violent if only we'd have done that. Damn the U.S. for enforcing laws.
I don't think you DO get it.
Immigrants came here (most likely legally due to fleeing a civil war, but maybe illegally) formed a gang to protect their neighborhood from black and mexican gangs. Then some were arrested, convicted, sent to prison then deported or simply deported. They got back there and started recruiting and terrorizing. Now it's a vicious circle that keeps growing. Repeating the same process over and over when it keeps failing is insanity.
I don't think you get it. What is the operative word here?
Illegal.
Let the illegals just ignore laws - I guess that's what you're saying.
Okay. Have it your way.
Or deal with our problems. Turning away those (the majority of illegals) that are simply fleeing horrors in their own countries is UNAMERICAN from jump. Or don't you get that?
I don't think you get it. What is the operative word here?
Illegal.
Let the illegals just ignore laws - I guess that's what you're saying.
Okay. Have it your way.
Or deal with our problems. Turning away those (the majority of illegals) that are simply fleeing horrors in their own countries is UNAMERICAN from jump. Or don't you get that?
So, you're saying the founders of ms-13 were simply good people fleeing horrors in their own countries?
Cool. They fled them, only to create horrors here.
I don't think you get it. What is the operative word here?
Illegal.
Let the illegals just ignore laws - I guess that's what you're saying.
Okay. Have it your way.
Or deal with our problems. Turning away those (the majority of illegals) that are simply fleeing horrors in their own countries is UNAMERICAN from jump. Or don't you get that?
So, you're saying the founders of ms-13 were simply good people fleeing horrors in their own countries?
Cool. They fled them, only to create horrors here.
Have it your way.
Apparently I've slipped and landed in a troll hole.