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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
If you never heard O say that, you weren't even aware.

And stop with the 'what about' thing. Makes you look foolish.


Using whataboutisms makes you look foolish and a bit russian bot.

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UN says Trump separation of migrant children with parents 'may amount to torture', in damning condemnation

The US president recently signed an executive order aimed at stopping family separation, but human rights groups say that the measure doesn't go far enough.

Clark Mindock New York

The United Nations has issued a damning condemnation of Donald Trump's policy that saw migrant children separated from their parents at the border, suggesting it "may amount to torture".

In a statement issued by the UN's Human Rights Council, experts said the president's recent executive order, ostensibly to halt the controversial separations, failed to resolve the problem and "may lead to indefinite detention of entire families in violation of international human rights standards".

“This executive order does not address the situation of those children who have already been pulled away from their parents. We call on the government of the US to release these children from immigration detention and to reunite them with their families based on the best interests of the child, and the rights of the child to liberty and family unity,” the group of 11 experts said.

“Detention of children is punitive, severely hampers their development, and in some cases may amount to torture,” the experts said. “Children are being used as a deterrent to irregular migration, which is unacceptable.”

A number of rights groups have questioned Mr Trump's order, issued on Wednesday, mostly for offering few details on how to deal with the more than 2,300 children detained by the US government since the "zero tolerance" policy was enacted by the president's administration in mid-April.

That zero tolerance policy means all adults who cross the border illegally are to be prosecuted, even those who make credible fear claims to seek asylum. The government has taken any children of individuals facing prosecution into their care while cases are processed. Mr Trump's executive order sought to end that separation, but did not indicate that adults seeking asylum would not continue to be prosecuted.

Mr Trump said on Thursday that he had ordered authorities to begin the process of re-uniting children with their parents, and the Justice Department asked a federal court for dispensation to hold children longer than the 20 days currently allowed - in order to help reunite families.

However, there are still few concrete details about how any reunifications will happen.

"The separations have been conducted without notice, information, or the opportunity to challenge them," the experts said in the statement. "The parents and children have been unable to communicate with each other. The parents have had no information about the whereabouts of their children, which is a cause of great distress. Moreover, we are deeply concerned at the long-term impact and trauma, including irreparable harm that these forcible separations have on the children".

The UN experts noted that there are exacerbating circumstances for some of the children that makes their removal from family especially damaging. Those concerns include worries about children with disabilities who may need specialised support, and that some of the children may still be breastfeeding.

The zero tolerance policy was announced earlier this year by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and the first six weeks saw those thousands of separations.

Accompanying the disclosure of the number of children who had been separated from their parents came shocking images of the facilities in which those youngsters were being held. In at least one Texas facility, children were pictured in metal cages inside of a temperature controlled facility. Politicians and the media pressed for access to the facilities to monitor the conditions there, and in some cases were denied entrance. The children in those facilities were provided with small sleeping pads, and foil blankets for warmth.

The UN condemnation comes just days after the United States withdrew its membership from the Human Rights Council, saying that the council is against Israel.

"For too long, the Human Rights Council has been a protector of human rights abusers, and a cesspool of political bias," Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the UN, said Tuesday during a speech at the State Department in Washington. She continued to say that the US had withdrawn from the council to reaffirm America's commitment to human rights, which she said "does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organisation that makes a mockery of human rights".

The vast majority of immigrants arriving in the US and facing potential separation are coming from turbulent countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. In those countries, high violent crime rates and difficult economic conditions have forced families to leave, migrating north to the US and elsewhere.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...n-a8411676.html

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Poll: 42 percent of Americans support impeaching Trump

BY JUSTIN WISE - 06/22/18

Forty-two percent of Americans think President Trump should be impeached and removed from office, according to a new CNN poll.

The survey found that support for impeaching Trump is divided along party lines, with backing from 77 percent of Democrats and just 9 percent of Republicans.

Overall support for impeaching Trump is at a level similar to the public's view of President Nixon in 1974. CNN notes that support for impeaching Nixon reached 73 percent in March 1974. But that survey, conducted by Harris Poll, took place after many crucial points in the Watergate scandal, including after the Senate Watergate hearings, after the "Saturday Night Massacre" and after it became known that Nixon bugged the Oval Office.
Nixon resigned in August 1974 before any impeachment vote came up.

In addition to 42 percent of Americans supporting the idea of impeaching Trump, 41 percent approve of how special counsel Robert Mueller is handling the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. That approval level was at 44 percent in May.

Mueller's favorability rating is at 32 percent.

The CNN poll was conducted among a national sample of 1,012 Americans from June 14 to 17. It has a margin of error of 3.7 percentage points.

http://thehill.com/homenews/393624-poll-42-percent-support-impeaching-trump

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

Why?

O used that excuse for 8 years.


An excuse to create millions of jobs and hand Trump a much better economy and a thriving stock market? Well alrighty then. lmao


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I am amazed at the Hypocrisy of those crying the loudest about children and parents who are being separated,
when every one of you cries the loudest for separating Mothers from their children and children from their very lives through Abortion. notallthere

All because they may be born into a world and not have enough money.

SHAME! tsktsk

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That's because fetuses love abortion. Have you talked to any?

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Only problem is, I've never supported abortion in my life. Try again. And if you're going to address crying, maybe you should speak to your fearful leader. All he does is whine about everyone isn't fair to him. lmao


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I am amazed at the Hypocrisy of those crying the loudest about children and parents who are being separated,
when every one of you cries the loudest for separating Mothers from their children and children from their very lives through Abortion. notallthere

All because they may be born into a world and not have enough money.

SHAME! tsktsk


You don't get to say crap about babies until you care about all babies! Right wingers - "Life begins at conception and ends at the Rio Grande" ~ Bill Maher

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Pro birth, not pro life.


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