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Eh, not a particularly good reference.

A) it's one long ass run on sentence and

B) Vice was notorious for it's dishonest editing and hit piece they did when he sat down for an interview.

Here's Jordan Peterson, a Kermit the Frog-sounding moron crying, which he does constantly (he can rarely get through a lecture without weeping like an imbecile)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBm0ZUfe7I

Imagine thinking that dude is bright and helping people.

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First, be consistent. Whether the line of demarcation is black/white, Christian/Muslim, gay/straight, democrat/republican, southerner/yankee.. be consistent. When something like that happens, you have to express the same outrage whether the person/group doing it is somebody you never agree with or somebody you are normally proud to associate with... be consistent.

Second, focus your moral outrage on the act, not on the person. Make others defend the act, not the person. Generally people, even ones who bad things, have some redeeming qualities that others can defend... so make them defend this one particular act.. not the overall character of the person who committed the act.

Third, keep your emotions under control.. if you get emotional it's not a debate anymore, it's a shouting and insults match.. nobody wins... even if you are right, you don't win... and you certainly aren't going to sway anybody to your way of thinking that way...

Fourth, if it starts to get emotional or if the other side is just unwilling to even listen, walk away. Doesn't mean you have to give up your quest or beliefs or become inactive, just means you need to find a different path. It's like this MB, a lot of of pol threads turn into the same 8-10 folks shouting insults back and forth at each other over and over again.. when it gets to that, a lot of other people just walk away.. I don't know if it makes them feel better or what their motivation is.. it certainly isn't winning the argument and it certainly isn't changing anybody's mind.. it's just noise.


Perhaps.. to paraphrase SC Justice Potter Stewart, "..not sure I could succeed in intelligently describing civility to you, but I know it when I see it."

That was an interview he did with Jim Jefferies. Vice didn't produce it, they merely aggregated it.

But please explain how this dunce who tripped over himself on the most obvious counter argument to his point is helping people.

Wait, isn't that the same thing they said about pornography???

which argument are you referring to? You made the claim he was literally crying over Disney movies being too gay, then threw a bunch of quick Googled stuff up... one was about Disney, but he didn't cry, didn't say anything about gay... then throw up a separate vidoe of him actually crying... and ridiculed the guy who got emotional as he delved in to his experiences researching the dark psychology that led to ordinary people committing mass murder when they put group identity over the sovereignty of the individual in the pursuits of Nazism, and Communism (most notably in Stalinist and Maoist China).

I mean, dude, if you want to make fun of a guy who weeps at the thought of how and why literally nearly a 100 million people were murdered in the last century due to political ideology....

good luck with that LOL It's Peterson's conduct in the face of that exact behavior that draws people to him.

'People Need to Calm Down': Co-Chair of Women for Trump Receives Death Threats After CNN Appearance

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/28/co...-cnn-appearance

I must have missed where he talked about Communism and Nazism or that happened before or after that specific clip. However, he has cried a lot when thinking about the young, individual male. Of course this isn't surprising with a Jungian. The surprising thing about Peterson, to me, is how little he understands of communism and nazism. Again, this is probably due to his reliance on Jungian archetypes to define his world view. I believe he claims that Germany lost the war, because they wanted to lose the war, due to the fact, that they were so efficiently organized, it didn't make sense that they would want to exterminate all the Jews unless they wanted to lose the war. Quite frankly I find his reliance on archetypes completely incompatible with his views on the individual. You cannot praise the individual, while assigning people to archetypes. Either you're an individual or an archetype, there is no in between. Even If you're choosing between archetypes, then you're not an individual, but whatever archetype you must be for that occasion.

Also, didn't Jordan Peterson "suggest" enforced monogamy the other week? I thought I read about that too. Again, the Jungian can never really think about the individual.

You probably already know this, but I don't really give a damn about what most people on here think. LOL

Gotta be true to oneself.

You speak your mind often, as do I. That's why we spend so much time in time out...

I'm much like you in the real world. I don't go out and march or like those damn pink kitty hats, I don't tell my friends & family on the right that they are stupid, and I try to keep the peace or avoid politics in discussions with them.

BUT this forum is here to express political views. It is a confrontational forum because certain posters like to express outrageous and offensive personal beliefs. There is very little intellectual or rational debate on the posts. If you try to be friendly, you get run over by a few posters on the right. If you try to bring up anything that makes Trump look bad, you get absurdity and nonsense in exchange.

The left in here can either play whack-a-troll, be dismissive and condescending, jump in the mud with the mcnasties, or get run over. There are really no other options. Even when you are having a cordial exchange and all is going smooth, you get memes and bigotry tossed in by certain posters just to stir the pot. There is no way to talk rationally to these guys.

I've been posting less in here because I'm sick of wasting my time. I really used to enjoy going back and forth with 40 (I really do like him) but he's lost his damn mind supporting Trump. Trump could nuke England and 40 would find a way to justify it. Then Diam would back it up with some nonsense math and Vambo would post a random meme that somehow makes everything Obama and Hillary's fault! smdh

You add to that the incendiary posts by an handful of others with beliefs so far from the norms that it hurts your eyes to read them and well then you have this forum... a crap cocktail of the underbelly of politics. It's hard for me to be civil under those conditions.

Like you said, "Gotta be true to oneself."

I just to stand in the middle and take my swings at both sides. Of course I don't hate anybody on either side and look forward to having a beer, diet coke, or long lunch with all the folks on here I have not had the pleasure of doing so with yet.

That is not the America that I know, but if that's the approach you take then what can conservatives do? Just remember, what goes around comes around. Be careful of the behavior you wish to normalize.


Don't beat yourself up over it. Had you voted for Clinton, Trump would have won Ohio 2,841,005 to 2,394,165 instead of 2,841,005 to 2,394,164. That and you wouldn't catch grief from people who have a distorted idea of how much a vote is worth.

I normally don't care for hostile political ads, but I have to give it to the GOP-- they nailed this one.
(Might be considered NSFW although it is clean enough to make it to TV.)

The Left in 2018: Unhinged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRHX6glTSM

The Year of the Unhinged Left.

Case and point.

I totally get, sometimes I want to engage but the posters who engage these topics particularly the ardent leftist are obnoxious to the point where even though I know they are intentionally trying to provoke me, I give in. I can't be engaging in this type of nonsense. I wouldn't tolerate someone speaking to me like that in public, why am i subjecting myself to it on this board?

The unhinged left... are you scared enough to run and vote GOP? Sheep.

Yes, it's all them.. everybody on the left was damn near Gandhi before..


You should try being moderate, both sides try to run over you.. it's like playing Frogger in here sometimes.


Maybe every time somebody disagreed with Obama they shouldn't have been called an irrational racist..... just a thought...

As Haus mentioned, the behavior has become normalized and I'm not going to blame one side or the other.. and if/when the dems are in charge again, I fully expect the whole debate to spin 180 degrees...

1) The Left is unhinged.

2) Trump isn't running till 2020.

40 proves my case.

40 hasn't proven he can tie his own shoes.

I don't wear tie shoes, I wear libby shoes.
They are currently unhinged.

Not like a daily tidal wave GM, and you know that.

There's never one in my lifetime who daily makes lying accusations and derogatory comments about the opposing party to support such hate and division among our people.

You know all of that is true GM, you know it.

"Unhinged" is the Fox talking points new word of the day. smdh

Cue the Parrots!

I know it buddy. But for me if a guy lies 3 times a day or ten times a day at the end of they day they are both still liars, and I don't trust either of them. Now if you want to ask me if I like Trump well then it's a whole other story.

Wow, unhinged Maxine has an unhinged Bernie Sanders 'do!

You watch that and find it entertaining? smh

Let people's wallets do the talking. If I knew of a restaurant doing that I would immediately set up a boycott against them. Politics with dinner always leaves a fowl taste =P

Rand Paul says man arrested for threatening to kill him and 'chop up' family with an ax

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/...ly-with-ax.html

Mad Maxine's Minions at work.

Unhinged.

Put the unhinged left in the loony bin.

Loony bin won't have them!

That's where they came from...

I would be happy if they were bound and gagged and dumped in Mexico with a note pinned to them stating that they are seeking asylum because America no longer wants them.

The loony bin has spoken!