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You wrote: "This could be settled by cutting ties with abusers the moment you find out."

So yeah. Technically you didn't say it, but you are implying it.

We now have a group of former coaches saying they didn't know and no reason to suspect that Jordan knew because hes a high character guy.

I don't know if he did or didn't and neither do you or anyone else on this board. That is why I said, in jest, pull everyone's voter ID card. The reality is we probably won't know since it is word against word.

These type of allegations are the worst in so many ways. Decades old and typically unprovable one way or the other. They always stick to the person unless someone comes clean. How many times have we heard of a "rape victim" coming clean after some poor guy spent years in prison? Guilty until proven innocent in the age of metoo.


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Originally Posted By: I_Rogue
You wrote: "This could be settled by cutting ties with abusers the moment you find out."

So yeah. Technically you didn't say it, but you are implying it.

We now have a group of former coaches saying they didn't know and no reason to suspect that Jordan knew because hes a high character guy.

I don't know if he did or didn't and neither do you or anyone else on this board. That is why I said, in jest, pull everyone's voter ID card. The reality is we probably won't know since it is word against word.

These type of allegations are the worst in so many ways. Decades old and typically unprovable one way or the other. They always stick to the person unless someone comes clean. How many times have we heard of a "rape victim" coming clean after some poor guy spent years in prison? Guilty until proven innocent in the age of metoo.


Trump takes shots at the #MeToo movement, so now it is a target of the right. Shameful.

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I said it as universal advice. Yes, it could apply to this situation. As Joe Pa and Nassar taught us, someone usually knows something somewhere.

Yes, we now have a bunch of coaches saying that their colleague sexually assaulted their players without their knowledge. Since they're coaches they are naturally more trustworthy and are clearly wise men.

False rape accusations constitute like .02% of all reports.

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I said it as universal advice. Yes, it could apply to this situation. As Joe Pa and Nassar taught us, someone usually knows something somewhere.

Yes, we now have a bunch of coaches saying that their colleague sexually assaulted their players without their knowledge. Since they're coaches they are naturally more trustworthy and are clearly wise men.

False rape accusations constitute like .02% of all reports.


You do realize that you’ve taken this from talking about a guy that supposedly knew to now he’s the guy that did it don’t you?

The guy that actually did the supposed abuse has been dead for thirteen years now, how do expect this to be proven in a court of law now?

I’ll reserve judgement until MUCH more evidence comes to light (if that’s even possible now) but on its face it looks like a bunch of sneaky people with financial troubles are trying to cash in on the mega-millions type windfall that happened at MSU (which was justifiable).


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The molestation is not the offense in this case, knowing and not acting to stop it is the offense. I don't know if he did you did not know, but if he did know and did not act, he's almost as bad as the pedophile IMHO.

And pedophile might not be the appropriate term in this case because these were 'of age' college students, but it fits better than rapist or sexual predator IMHO.

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The doctor is the colleague I was referring to...

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice

Signees:

Russ Hellickson, former head coach
Dave Ruckman, former assistant coach
Rex Holman, former assistant coach
Ken Chertow, former assistant coach
Myron Kharchilava, former assistant coach
Kenny Ramsey Jr., former assistant coach


I'd be lying if I said it doesn't look awfully suspicious that these allegations, which EVERYBODY supposedly knew about, are all being directed at the one guy who is now in congress.. and nobody seems to care about the other 6 or 7 people who would have also known about it..


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Athletes from 14 different sports were groped / molested in some way by this doctor. It should strike everyone as a little politically convenient that somehow Jordan is the only coach who "should have known".


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I can agree with that, nonetheless a problem though.

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
Jim Jordan’s Accusers Have A Sketchy History, Raising Questions About Their ‘Authenticity’

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/jim-jordan-accusers/


Imagine being so deluded and creepy that you think numerous adult male wrestlers were making up stories about their molestation for an extremely minor political gain.

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