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strange turn once again ... sad situation regardless of the outcome

Well, looks like this is going nowhere.

I mean, when someone testifying identifies one of Winslow's attorney as the person that assaulted her?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...-newstopstories

Yeah, I assumed this guy was dead to rights, now this has turned into comedy hour. Winslow's attorneys are smart, show up looking like a choir boy... glasses are a nice touch. Three weeks ago he looked like a bum. I'm starting to wonder if the victims have discussed a payoff or had something slipped into their water when they entered the courtroom.

What a poopshow!

I remember they gave Cleveland serial killer Anthony Sowell glasses too, for court. Gotta clean up that appearance!



A girl I used to work with said, "Now he looks like a college student!" (Okay, a somewhat older college student.)

At least for him it didn't work. Too much obvious evidence.

Nice teef.

j/c:

I am not really defending Winslow, but perhaps there is a chance that it really wasn't him? I know some people just love seeing someone larger than them fall, but I think it's preferable to rely on the court of law rather than public opinion.

To clarify..........I don't know if Winslow is guilty or not. Then again, neither do you guys.

I agree. That's why I posted what I did.

Apparently at least 3 of the accusers couldn't identify him - 1 of them, to my understanding the only one that testified, actually identified one of his attorneys as the guy that assaulted her.

Honestly, how does this story get even more twisted?

https://sports.yahoo.com/kellen-winslow-...-231002706.html

So now he's accused of raping an unconscious 17 year old, back in 2003?

Dang. Where there's smoke, and you let it go, there's usually going to be fire.

His other rape and assault charges......the victims couldn't or wouldn't i.d. him. But now this?

What the hell?

Civil Court..........here we come.

i hope he gets life no parole
or the chair.

Even if the legal system doesn't have enough to convict him?

wow.

Does that nose come off with the glasses?

I'm thinking from what I've read so far? Most likely guilty. Just my opinion though. In this day and age and from my life's experiences? I have found it is foolish to always give people the benefit of the doubt.

His drastic change in his appearance was a good idea but also a clue, me thinks.

If he did what he was accused of he should play it smart and plea-bargain, if it is offered to him. And if he did what he is accused of and doesn't take any offered plea bargain and is found guilty? It will be because of his own arrogance.

Nonetheless, interesting case.

I suppose that if I were a lawyer, I would suggest to my client that he shaves his head, if he has a full head of hair, and either grow a beard, or shave it off if he had one at the time of the event that put him on trial. I would want him looking as different as possible. Either gain or lose weight, stoop, practice walking with a slight limp ...... etc.

If you can put any doubt in the accuser's mind, you can put doubt in the jury's mind.

All of that said, if he really did rape an unconscious 17 year old ..... Ugh. That's revolting.

However, I worry about a man being accused of rape a decade after the fact. How can he defend himself? What evidence can he present in his own defense?

I guess all I can say is that if he did it, I hope he goes to prison. If he did not do it, then I hope he goes free.

That man needs help that only comes from the Lord

well said Pastor

Don't encourage anyone to grow a beard or shave their head while on trial. Juries will see that and think that he is a criminal, because he looks like every prisoner they've seen on TV.

Hot take: If KW2 was wearing glasses he wouldn't have wrecked his motorcycle and his NFL career.

Hot Take: Funny how a much despised ex-Brown is automatically guilty, while woman beater LeSean is somehow innocent.

(I think they're both guilty, but it's an interesting board trend.)

Kellen never won anyone a fantasy football title.

Other than Hillis no other brown has been drafted in fantasy ...

Phil Dawson was an unreal kicker in 2007

Duke Johnson helped me win 5 games this year. Of course he wasn't starting when I won my fantasy title. Still thankful for all those garbage time stats.

I'll never bad-mouth KW2 for his time as a Brown, he played hard when he was on the field and had that great 2007 season.

He never ran his mouth about Cleveland after he left iirc.
I hope this isn't true, for his sake. If it is true, 40 or 60 years in prison sounds about right.

you do realize our entire justice system is setup up specifically on that principle, right?

And O.J. is innocent.

I trust others until I can't. That has hurt me a few times, it has cost me some "stuff" i regret losing. But I feel better about me rather than knee-jerk reactions to reject others.

Might be dumb naivete, but OK for the most part.

A bit more on Winslow:

'If you scream, I'll kill you': Homeless woman, 58, describes how former NFL star Kellen Winslow II 'drove her to a secluded road, choked her, and then sodomized her' - though his attorneys claim he 'paid her for sex'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...tml?mrn_rm=als1

Gross...

He sodomized a 58 year old homeless woman? Whether he paid for it or not, that’s just gross.

if this is true, please just lock him up for the rest of his days.

I agree. If it's true. However, I think we should wait until the trial plays out before we convict him. I am a strong believer in due process.

I really hope no one twists that around as me saying I am supporting Winslow. I just think each person deserves a fair trial before we publicly convict him.

Oh, and Swish...........I know you said "if it's true." My comment was more of a general comment than directly to you.

Most rational people will agree with that.

Raping a 58 year old woman against her will and then throwing a few bucks at her, isn't "paying for it"...

How bad is it if your defense is that you paid an 58 year old homeless woman for sex? That is the kind of thing you lie about if you actually did it.

I never understood people with tons of fame and money going to a prostitute. A lot of these guys could get girls without much trouble at all, especially with a famous name like "Kellen Winslow".

Because it's not just about having sex.

Exactly. For them they’re trying to pay for anonymity, and for the girl to leave before the sun comes up. Where as if you go pick up a typical girl at the club and invite her back to your place you have to deal with her, her Facebook account, her Instagram, her blog, and her generally running her mouth and or possibly accusing you of wrong doing in exchange for a payout.
Instead you pay upfront and she goes home, or back to the street, when your ‘transaction’ is over.

When you pick those who are homeless and/or defenseless, it's all about power and control.