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Does anyone play Madden 18 PS4?

I haven't in awhile, I got bored with it.

I've got it, but I haven't played it much.

I play off and on. Offline franchise and a few online matches.

I gave up on Madden when my friends all started to not play it anymore. Playing the 10-15 year old cheaters online wasn't fun anymore. I haven't played Madden since probably 2013. I think Calvin was on the cover hahaa.

I don't usually play Madden after December, but if anyone wants to play my PSN name is Tupave.

I still play now and again.
I have 2 sons that love it. Playing them online is a cool way to connect when i'm out of town.

I was thinking about starting an online league with rosters that are updated from the FA moves.

But from the looks of it there won't be enough interest.

No worries.

Ty fellas.

*break*

CHSDawg we'll look you up.

So I just got this game because it was on sale for like $11 or so and I haven't had a football game in the rotation since Peyton Hillis was on the cover. Is the game really this bad or is it just me?

I started off with the "Longshot" mode, thinking it would be a decent "MyPlayer" type of mode. It's pretty much just a long movie, where you have to do a bunch of non-football game type of mini-games on your way through watching a sort-of-boring story.

So, I switched over to Franchise Mode, which I saw let you play as a player. So I picked that. It pretty much starts you off at the start of your first season. No draft, no anything. You earn points and just grind your guy up through the season.

After getting bored with that, I tried Franchise Mode as an Owner. That seemed even worse for some reason. The whole interface was as clunky as I've ever seen. Even looking at Free Agents seemed confusing. I didn't see any option for firing your coach or scouting or anything like that.

Now I'm wondering if even $11 was too much. Really glad I didn't pay $60 for this. I'm wondering if this is your typical EA Sports factory dump, where they put all the effort into Online modes, and everything else was thrown together by interns or something. I really long for the days of NCAA Football.

Yeah. That is the norm sadly. They just copy and paste and make things worse. Like you, I haven’t played madden since Peyton Hillis cover, even then I traded it because of the rain every game glitch.

I’ve seen some insane bugs for this game to say I’m proud that I stayed away. NBA2K18 is also falling through this online crap.

I rented it a long while back, made it through 2 shortened games with the Browns and was amazed how bad it felt. Like you and Gone said, I've been away from Madden for a long time, but damn! I felt like I wasted the rental fee.

I'm gonna get it for Xbox, hopefully they fix all the bugs in the franchise mode.....unlikely

Madden is trying to hard to be 2k and 2k is trying to hard to be a movie.

Yeah, I hate that aspect of it. I want to play a sports game! I want to insert myself (or a character of my own choosing) into the game and build him up myself while living vicariously through him. I don't want a forced backstory of a character that's already been made for me, and I have to sit there and watch a movie while I'm trying to play a game.

For something like Mass Effect, that works. You understand that you are putting yourself into a movie, and you're just living out your character in that movie. Even in that case, your background isn't really fleshed out, and you can think of it as whatever you want it to be.

In these sports game movies, it's always, "Your parents died, you did this and that in college, etc". I don't care about any of that. I want to play sports and grow my own character! Even Mass Effect knows to give you several options about your backstory and lets you fill in the blanks for most of it. It's all about moving forward.

I don't mind the backstory feature of the game. The FIFA one last year was cool. I just don't like that they force you to do it if you want to do the be a player mode. 2k did that before.

Make them separate items, and nobody will complain.

What I don't like about this latest run of football games is the RPG elements of it. For the be a player mode, it's an obvious must, but for franchise mode, it's dumb. I understand in a sim that players will auto develop, but I kind of enjoyed that part of it. The mystery of how well your players would develop over time. I like the hardline simulation aspect of sports games.

It sounds like you tried playing the game every other way than the original way it was intended to be played lol....

I haven't played in years, but when I did, I would just stick to playing head-to-head like I had played the game since I was 10 years old. Its definitely changed a lot since then, but its still the goto football game on consoles...

Franchise mode is always fun.


Anyone interested in setting up an online franchise league this next game for the PS4?

only because of the exclusive tag they have with the NFL.

2K Football was light years ahead of Madden when it was able to put it out.

Worst day in gaming history (for football at least) was when the NFL signed that agreement with EA.

Worst day was when lawsuit against the NCAA went through and they could no longer use the "likeness" of players. So EA stopped producing NCAA Football, which was much, much better than Madden.

Madden 18 made me retire from playing Madden after darn near 30 years..

You might as well keep going at this point


I only bought Madden 18 because my roommate went in half with me. It's a cute game, but if you're not playing their card game then it's worthless.

I'm thinking about buying Madden 19 though... It couldn't possibly get worse, right?

Yeah, it irritates me that they seem to only care about the stooped card game, and not much about what has actually paid their bills, the ACTUAL game.

It wouldn't be much to make a much more in-depth franchise mode/player career mode.

It was their own fault. They weren't allowed to use a players likeness but still created every player using their number, height, weight and abilities. It was only a matter of time before someone sued them and won.

I stopped playing Madden a long time ago, but I normally bought the college game. It was so much better.

No, those stupid card games make bank. That's why games these days seem to focus on nothing but them. And honestly, I can't blame the video game companies that much for doing it, when consumers continue to buy the packs over and over again.

For them, it's got to be grating to spend all kinds of resources to build up a high quality game, that you sell once for $60 and that's all the return you get on it. Then you see all these mobile app games that don't have a whole lot of "game" to it, probably took 4 people a few weeks to code, and kids will drop $20 a day buying up "packs" that just have a "chance" to get the good items the game has to offer. Really, they've turned video games into freaking slot machines. Or at the very least, it's Baseball/Pokemon cards.

So, I can see why EA would want to take that model and actually make some coin on a franchise they've poured a lot of money into. They did the same thing with Mass Effect. Turned it into a Multiplayer thing, where you had to purchase "packs" to get the good characters and Weapons. And since video gamers are so eager to win, they'll happily pay thousands to "win".

That was the thought 3 -5 years ago, however gamers (at least those I have spoken with) are catching on. They are spending less and less on those packs from what I have read in message boards and on Social Media.

Look at Destiny 2. I have never seen more backlash at a game than D2, for that exact thing. Battlefront shortly after. So much so, that EA had to change the entire way BF was setup after release.

I agree with you that is exactly what happened, buts its coming full circle. Because consumers feel if they are dropping 60 on a game, the content should already be included. Those app games are free, then you pay for more content. Its not the same thing, at least imo.

I hope that's the case. But if they weren't making money on it, they wouldn't do it.

I think the problem is that EA is trying to do that to established franchises that were built more around a single player experience. If they came out with some new game that did that, then people probably wouldn't care as much and might even buy into it. But they have to take something that's already got a built-in fan base and then try to go the direction that they want to go in for their own selfish purposes.

They're like Disney.

I think the thing is, the majority of people who really love the NCAA series don't care for current player likeness. I don't care about using real players. I love building a team for 5-6 seasons down the line.

You could easily just make the game, and use completely made up players, or maybe use classic teams that are no longer part of the NCAA.

Meanwhile, you could still get current players, because of the work that fans of the game do in keeping rosters up to date.

Here's a cool article about the guys who keep updating rosters every year on the NCAA games. Pretty awesome.

I do think it will be back one day. I've told people on here I have someone in my family who works at EA. He said he thinks it will eventually be back, but there is just no rush because of the numbers Madden pulls. NCAA has always been a better game, but Madden just has a bigger pull, and probably always will.

I still have my ps3 set up, basically for ncaa. I've been trying to score a copy of 14 on ebay, but they are not going for very cheap, especially for a 4 year old sports game.

Players revolted when they did it with Star Wars battlefront 2. They sort of won. EA got a bunch of bad press. Turned off their microtransactions until they revamped the system.

A lot of companies are doing it, but EA is the worst. I say boycott them. People are too hooked to stop shelling out money.

There's actually legislation talk about getting rid of loot boxes because they are de facto gambling games and it's a problem for children who buy these packs/boxes in mass bulk trying to haul something in.

I almost wanted to start a new thread about this. It *is* gambling, and worse yet, it's unregulated gambling. Slot machines have to meet certain payout rates. There's nothing stopping a gaming company from ripping you off every single time.

Yeah, even more of a reason why EA will try to get in further in while it's good. Ultimate Team is such a joke, but I'm the true loser who is spends an extra 20 to get coins I love how fortnite has no competitive microtransactions.

I never really thought of it like that. I can easily see this.

While I agree, but if opening a loot box is considered gambling, what else could be considered gambling? Is opening a pack of baseball cars gambling?

Even if legislation was passed to outlaw loot boxes because they are gambling, microtransactions would not go away. They would still be there, they would just sell an item outright, most likely at a higher cost.

Honestly, I could live with micro-transactions because you know what you're getting up front. And if everyone tells you before you get the game, "Don't bother getting this because you have to drop $60 for the game and another $60 to get the stuff that make it playable", you'll know to steer clear.

The loot box stuff can get borderline fraudulent in some cases. I played this one mobile game where you would get new characters through crystals. But in order to get the "good" characters, you had to either have extremely good luck, or drop $20 a pop for 10 crystals which were essentially 10 slot-machine spins. And these were advertised as, "Get these crystals to get (a chance) to get this specific character". Except that there were no posted odds on what your chances actually were, so you you were completely at the mercy of the developers.

I dropped $20 once to try and get one guy I wanted and got nothing. So that was it for me. But some people I knew in the game would say all the time that they dropped over $100 trying to get one of these characters and wound up with nothing but junk. That's over 100 chances and they got zip. One guy emailed support and they basically told him "Oh well, you just had bad luck!"

I get that baseball cards are sort of the same thing, but at what (monetary) point do you have to start regulating this? This would be like baseball cards charging $20 a pack and advertising it as "A chance to get a Ken Griffey Rookie Card" but then just about every pack is full of card blanks.

And honestly, there's nothing stopping a company from creating some sort of PvP game where they say some sort of incredible weapon has a chance to be dropped from a pack that you have to pay $20 for, and then ultimately, never let it drop. Oh sure, they might put it on a couple of employee accounts, so everybody sees it and wants it really bad. But they don't actually have to let it drop.

I played madden yesterday! (if you subscribe to EA pass you get a 10 hour demo).

The graphics are INSANE.

The real player movement they have added does make the game feel more fluid and realistic. Most of the upgrades are to MUT, Squad, there is an extension to the Longshot mode where you can continue your story. Im gonna buy it, but if your looking for a complete overhaul, this is not it.

Longshot can lead into franchise this time?

That I am not sure. I haven't played longshot yet on the trial. I have started a franchise (which is not much added tbh).

They do have a few things that I like so far - the background has your coach in his office doing task while you are working on your team (depth chart, progressing, etc) so its not just a simple back screen. I know this seems dumb, but it does make a little difference. You can customize draft class as well, which was highly needed.

Well that guarantees it. I'm buying this game. Custom draft classes are the most important thing for sports franchise modes.

I agree they are up there.

So who got 19 on PS4? Swish has been dodging me for weeks now.