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Drip drip drip The word treason is being thrown around. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-dir...helsinki-summitAnd earlier One of President Donald Trump’s loudest critics from within his own party took to the Senate floor on Tuesday afternoon to denounce his calling Democrats “treasonous” at an event in Ohio the prior evening. In a scathing address, Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona described Trump’s comments as “vile,” lamenting what he described as the “daily sundering of our country” at the hands of a bombastic and often incendiary commander-in-chief. The night before, Trump harshly criticized Democrats during a speech on Cincinnati for not standing to applaud during his State of the Union address less than a week earlier. “They were like death — and un-American,” Trump said. “Un-American. Somebody said treasonous. I mean, yeah, I guess, why not. Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly din’t seem to love our country very much.” Ouch
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I fully expected this from the start. No surprises at all. Trump-Putin press conference leaves members of both parties reelingPresident Donald Trump's joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday left members of both U.S. political parties reeling. Trump, who called the two-hour-long talks that preceded the joint appearance "direct, open, deeply productive," indicated that the U.S. was to blame for tensions between the two nations, avoided rebuking Putin for Russia's interference in the 2016 election, and even suggested the countries work together on cybersecurity. His comments drew criticism from lawmakers of both parties and from former government officials, many of whom argued the president had been too lenient with the Russian leader. Here are some key reactions to the press conference: • "I never thought I would see the day when our American President would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression," Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tweeted. "This is shameful." • "Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors,'" former CIA Director John Brennan, who served under President Barack Obama, tweeted. "It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???" • "Once again, @realDonaldTrump takes to the international stage to embarrass America, undermine our institutions, weaken our alliances, & embrace a dictator," Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) tweeted. "Russia interfered in our elections & attacked our democracy. Putin must be held accountable – not rewarded. Disgraceful." • "Missed opportunity by President Trump to firmly hold Russia accountable for 2016 meddling and deliver a strong warning regarding future elections," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) tweeted. "This answer by President Trump will be seen by Russia as a sign of weakness and create far more problems than it solves. "It is imperative that Congress hold hearings on the extent and scope of any cooperation with Russia in Syria regarding Iran’s presence," he continued. • "This is a sad, shameful moment for our great nation," Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) tweeted. "We will reclaim our values and reassert our global leadership. We'll turn the page on this dark chapter. But it won't happen on its own. We all must stand up—to side with U.S. law enforcement and to protect all Americans." • "This is bizarre and flat-out wrong," Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said in a statement. "The United States is not to blame. ... When the President plays these moral equivalence games, he gives Putin a propaganda win he desperately needs. • "This entire trip has just been one giant middle finger from President Trump to his own country," Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) tweeted. "Just jaw dropping." • "It’s embarrassing that American flags were present at #TrumpPutinSummit, because an American president was not," Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) tweeted. "Our president, above everything else, must defend US. @realDonaldTrump just showed he cannot and will always side with Russia. @HouseGOP, do you hear the fire alarm?" • "A person can be in favor of improving relations with Russia, in favor of meeting with Putin, and still think something is not right here," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted. • "The president's refusal to acknowledge that Putin interfered in our elections should alarm us all," Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) tweeted. "Putin is a threat to our democracy and our upcoming election, that's a fact. The president's unwillingness to stand up to him and defend our nation is unacceptable and embarrassing." • "In all fairness to @realDonaldTrump, performance reviews with your boss are often 1 on 1," Rep. Rita Lowey (D-N.Y.) tweeted. • Trump "didn’t hold Putin responsible, & he didn’t say one negative word about Putin & his attack against our country," Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.), ranking member of the House Ethics Committee, tweeted. "Our President likes to talk tough, but when it came time to take a strong stand on behalf of the US, he completely and utterly failed." • Trump "lets Putin lie to his face and doesn't even contradict him," Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, tweeted. "Cannot remember a more blatant display of weakness by a U.S. president." Not every response was critical. "Glad to hear it," Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) tweeted in response to a video of Trump saying he would "put world peace ahead of politics." ___________________________ It was nice to hear from a few Republican officials who still think America is worth defending. I can't wait to hear/smell what those who place Trump over Country will have to say about this. I'm content to wait until they've downloaded their go-to talking points from FOXitty&Fiends. That's been the pattern all along. No reason to expect any different/better from them now. This ought to be rich AF. I distinctly recall the most recent GOP POTUS saying, in reference to our dealings with enemies: "You're either with us, or you're against us." I'm with George. Ockam's razor is at work here: the simplest answer is the correct one. Ladies and gentlemen of the USA: the free press is not your enemy. Your President is. #justanotherdayof45* #turninyourpatriotcards https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-putin-meeting-reaction-democrats-republicans-722487
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Trump went there with an opportunity to really do some good and... 
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Someone here will undoubtedly say that’s Putin at the plate. Oooops 
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President Trump has a 2 hour private meeting with Putin then comes out to a Press Conference and speaks for 10 minutes to his enemies from Russia on one side and his enemies from the American Press on the other side. Now the world knows everything that went on. I am glad, after 8 years of Obama's weakness while Russia grew stronger, we are now beginning to talk again. As far as Brennan's remarks, remember he admittedly supported the Communists, during the Cold War no less.
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Man the wheels are falling of the GOP right now. Who would have thought?
It’s obvious Putin and Trump will sell out their own people for fame, power, and fortune. Enjoy
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Russia on one side and his enemies from America on the other. And he then surrendered to Russia.
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing.
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing. Wasn't Trump elected for the most part to fix all of the things Obama did wrong? Well this was one of them..
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing. Wrong!!! He expelled a boat load of diplomats and spies and closed down a well known Russian safe house before the elections.
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President Trump has a 2 hour private meeting with Putin then comes out to a Press Conference and speaks for 10 minutes to his enemies from Russia on one side and his enemies from the American Press on the other side. Now the world knows everything that went on. Yes, it's Trump against the world..  As you say, he had 10 minutes to address the single most pressing question any American (not just American press) but actual American has about Russia.. and that's regarding meddling in the election.. and in 10 minutes, he didn't even say they talked about it.. He just took the blame on America for the tension between us.. I'll just go ahead and say it.. if this was Obama and it played out exactly the same, you would have the oven preheated and the roast would be about to begin.. there would be no waffling.. there would be no benefit of the doubt.. there would be no nothing except you torching him in every post for being spineless, weak, and afraid of a powerful enemy..... I know it, everybody knows, and I'm pretty sure you know it...
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Typical....  #compliant
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? I do not understand why President Trump would not trust the Intelligence Community after having proved themselves with the false Dossier being used to get FISA warrants to wiretap Trumps campaign. After the continuing fall of the FBI and Justice Department over their underhanded use of false intelligence by biased investigators, I don't know why Trump would take everything they say without a grain of salt. Even as the head of the CIA under Obama admitted he voted for the Communists during the Cold War, you would think Trump would take everything they say as truth. I don't even find it strange that the FBI, Mueller and the Intel agencies came out with that report on the 12 Russians putting out false info on the net just one day before Trump and Putin met. Nope, nothing to see here. Move along.
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Well, that didn't take long.
Quick- someone bring me that shovel, a hose and some bleach. Oh, and don't forget the Glade Plug-Ins® for post-cleanup
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing. Wrong!!! He expelled a boat load of diplomats and spies and closed down a well known Russian safe house before the elections. Don't forget those crippling economic sanctions that Putin was promised would be lifted. Promises made while campaign season was in full swing. Promises made by Manafort (whom Trump barely knows). Mustn't forget those.
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Seems we have some of our own Russian collaborators/sympathizers right here embedded at DT.
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I thought of you when that reporter asked the stupid question of Putin about having incriminating evidence of Trump when Trump visited Russia as a businessman years ago.
You were pushing that for weeks but Putin laughed out loud and the Russian Press snickered at the ridiculousness of this and our Press asking it.
Kinda like we did when you first posted it.
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? I do not understand why President Trump would not trust the Intelligence Community after having proved themselves with the false Dossier being used to get FISA warrants to wiretap Trumps campaign. After the continuing fall of the FBI and Justice Department over their underhanded use of false intelligence by biased investigators, I don't know why Trump would take everything they say without a grain of salt. Even as the head of the CIA under Obama admitted he voted for the Communists during the Cold War, you would think Trump would take everything they say as truth. I don't even find it strange that the FBI, Mueller and the Intel agencies came out with that report on the 12 Russians putting out false info on the net just one day before Trump and Putin met. Nope, nothing to see here. Move along. You voted for a "man" who just blamed the USA for Russia's bad acts. There is no place for you to run and hide from this. There is no spin you can give that excuses what that person did today. But don't worry about that at all. You've simply answered my original question: "What will those who place Trump ahead of Country say?" And now we know. Yannow... there are people out there who voted for this orange abomination who know better than to support what he's just done. I still have some regard for them. You are still actively cheerleading for him without even once considering that the rest of America might be right about him. Like I said: "Trump over Country." Blind (and I do mean blind) allegiance. He's a traitor. And now are you too.
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No, I voted for a man who just said both sides made mistakes.
The hysteria of the Left is once again showing its ugly head as they seem to know everything discussed in a 2 hour meeting after a 10 minute speech by our President.
Your hate will never allow you to look at things with clear eyes and a rational head.
I can at least admit it wasn't a great Press Conference for Trump but I also understand it was a waste of time as he was not going to get any positive press from it anyway.
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing. Wrong!!! He expelled a boat load of diplomats and spies and closed down a well known Russian safe house before the elections. Don't forget those crippling economic sanctions that Putin was promised would be lifted. Promises made while campaign season was in full swing. Promises made by Manafort (whom Trump barely knows). Mustn't forget those. Don't let the facts get in the way of his feelings.
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j/c Dan Rather 41 mins · American journalists showed more bravery and honesty today in questioning Putin about the Russian attack on American sovereignty than the President of the United States.
Meanwhile, from body language, to post-summit statements, to the optics, to the desperate handshakes, Putin was running the show. Trump looked desperate. It's unbelievable but all too believable.
He trusts the word of a former KGB agent over the consensus of the American intelligence community backed by a ton of facts. To write this is to be shocked anew. Everyone who excuses Trump’s behavior must answer that now, and when history inevitably judges.
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I thought of you when that reporter asked the stupid question of Putin about having incriminating evidence of Trump when Trump visited Russia as a businessman years ago.
You were pushing that for weeks but Putin laughed out loud and the Russian Press snickered at the ridiculousness of this and our Press asking it.
Kinda like we did when you first posted it. Then why did Trump capitulate to Putin? Trump surrendered. He just sold his own country out to Putin. Deplorable people applaud it.
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he was not going to get any positive press from it anyway Nonsense. I'm sure he KILLED on RIA Novosti, TASS and Russia Times.  Or maybe Trump's just employing "Keep your friends close; your enemies closer." Yeah- that's the ticket. You should go with that one. Because whining like you just did makes you sound like.... Trump.
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In case you didn't read the comments below that.. some of them were from Republicans.. don't act like you didn't notice that. It will be very telling where some, especially the leadership, chooses to go with this.
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And people thought Obama bowed to Putin. Doubting your intelligence community just because your master is with you. Who is a good boy? Obama was made aware of the Russian meddling during the election...and...as usual...did nothing. Wasn't Trump elected for the most part to fix all of the things Obama did wrong? Well this was one of them.. What should Trump have said on that podium? Trump: You interfered with our election. Don't ever do that again...or else. Putin: No, I did not. Trump: YES you did! Putin: NO! I did not. Trump: YES! You DID! I'm going home. (Drops mic) What in the world did people THINK was going to be said? As if Putin was going to admit it. It has been acknowledged that the meddling DID NOT change the outcome of the election. So the meddling did not work...and now Trump is supposed to fall on his sword over this?
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President Trump has a 2 hour private meeting with Putin then comes out to a Press Conference and speaks for 10 minutes to his enemies from Russia on one side and his enemies from the American Press on the other side. Now the world knows everything that went on. Yes, it's Trump against the world..  As you say, he had 10 minutes to address the single most pressing question any American (not just American press) but actual American has about Russia.. and that's regarding meddling in the election.. and in 10 minutes, he didn't even say they talked about it.. He just took the blame on America for the tension between us.. False, he said they talked extensively about interference and he said both sides made mistakes, not just them, not just us. Putin even went so far as to invite Mueller to Russia to investigate interference and Collusion from their side.
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Really? That’s all you have? What about this and BS talk. How about a little leadership and real action against Russian meddling !
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President Trump has a 2 hour private meeting with Putin then comes out to a Press Conference and speaks for 10 minutes to his enemies from Russia on one side and his enemies from the American Press on the other side. Now the world knows everything that went on. Yes, it's Trump against the world..  As you say, he had 10 minutes to address the single most pressing question any American (not just American press) but actual American has about Russia.. and that's regarding meddling in the election.. and in 10 minutes, he didn't even say they talked about it.. He just took the blame on America for the tension between us.. False, he said they talked extensively about interference and he said both sides made mistakes, not just them, not just us. Yeah like ....when he said their are bad people on both sides of the KKK and equality advocates. Deplorable
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What should Trump have said on that podium?
Trump: You interfered with our election. Don't ever do that again...or else.
Putin: No, I did not.
Trump: YES you did!
Putin: NO! I did not.
Trump: YES! You DID! I'm going home. (Drops mic)
What in the world did people THINK was going to be said? As if Putin was going to admit it. rolleyes
It has been acknowledged that the meddling DID NOT change the outcome of the election. So the meddling did not work...and now Trump is supposed to fall on his sword over this? No, that should have happened inside the meeting... at the podium should have been more like, Trump: We talked about election interference. We have assurances from Putin that the Russian government will never attempt to influence an American election and that they will work with the American government to stop any private Russian entities from doing it.
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So I opened FB a few minutes ago and on cue about 3 of the top 5 things on my feed are from my conservative friends and they all have to do with stories about what Obama did or didn't do regarding Russia..
It's like they have no answer for what just happened other than the "What did you expect him to do?" or the "We don't know what they really talked about." or the "We'll just have to wait and see what happens next."
So in the absence of anything to defend.. attack Obama.
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So you don't think our relations with Russia being so bad is the fault of previous administrations?
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So you don't think our relations with Russia being so bad is the fault of previous administrations? I think almost all the blame goes to Russia.
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So you don't think our relations with Russia being so bad is the fault of previous administrations? I think almost all the blame goes to Russia. I agree and I am glad we are now talking again.
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So you don't think our relations with Russia being so bad is the fault of previous administrations? I think 'previous administrations' is an understatement of epic proportions.
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In case you didn't read the comments below that.. some of them were from Republicans.. don't act like you didn't notice that. It will be very telling where some, especially the leadership, chooses to go with this. ________________________ "Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors,'" tweeted former CIA Director John Brennan. "It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???" Former Illinois Republican congressman and conservative talk radio host Joe Walsh voiced a similar sentiment. "This press conference is an absolute disgrace," he tweeted. "Trump won't even side with America. What Trump did today was commit treason. He cannot be supported anymore. He is a clear & present danger to America. Republicans can no longer be quiet. I won't be quiet. I am done with him."https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-press-conference/index.html
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