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Oh, I am aware of Vambo. I actually find it quite telling that he was unwilling or incapable of clarifying a two word (with emoji) post.


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House Republicans defeat attempt to subpoena Trump interpreter


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/19/trump-russia-putin-interpreter-subpoena-732359

Led by Nunes, shameful. Maybe the Senate will act in interest of the country.

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WATCH: Trump Voters in WI Tell MSNBC They Were Not Swayed by Putin Summit Backlash

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/19/watch-trump-voters-wisconsin-not-swayed-remarks-putin-summit

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House Republicans defeat attempt to subpoena Trump interpreter


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/19/trump-russia-putin-interpreter-subpoena-732359

Led by Nunes, shameful. Maybe the Senate will act in interest of the country.


Ridiculous TDS again. Where were the requests for info on Obama's secret side deals with Iran that he and Kerry crafted?

Where are the unredacted emails and letters that Rosenstein is sitting on like a hen hatching an egg THAT CONGRESS HAS REPEATEDLY REQUESTED? Don't forget, Congress has the unfettered right and duty to oversee the FBI. But the TDS clan is focused on an interpreter? Puhleeze.

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TDS ...

Hilarious to me that our TV game show media president creates an insulting name for his detractors and his minions adopt it instantly. Happened with his insulting names for Hilary, Ted ... Now Warren ... The base must be so proud to have a leader of the free world in office who is the least Presidential person in the history of the nation who also exhibits the most divisive ability to split our nation and create conflict in the history of the position ... smh


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Trump didn't create TDS, you on the Left did.

We are still shaking our heads.

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Ridiculous TDS again. Where were the requests for info on Obama's secret side deals with Iran that he and Kerry crafted?

Where are the unredacted emails and letters that Rosenstein is sitting on like a hen hatching an egg THAT CONGRESS HAS REPEATEDLY REQUESTED? Don't forget, Congress has the unfettered right and duty to oversee the FBI. But the TDS clan is focused on an interpreter? Puhleeze.


Willie, I don't see any link between Putin and Trump, and Obama and Iran. I can agree that there are unanswered questions about Obama's deal with Iran. But we aren't talking about that here. If you have new information to share on that deal, feel free to make a new post. If you have information that links Putin and Trumps meeting to the Iran Nuclear Deal, then let us know! Otherwise, if your only "link" is that both are bad, then that's whataboutism.

Also, is it ok to say people have a "derangement syndrome" on the board now? I'm still coming to a better understanding what is considered and not considered name-calling on the board. Maybe that rule is archaic and not used anymore?


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reading this thread was so damn painful, i thought i had to translate the page from russian to English.


cause right now, i've identified atleast two people that can certainly be pro-russian trolls.

what trump did was nothing short of treacherous. what he did was nothing short of weak and pathetic.

and i can not believe we got people who call themselves patriots trying to defend trump on this.

i was gonna make some long ass post, but then i realized: its pointless. people cant admit that got played, and i get it. nobody wants to admit they got bamboozled into voting for a russian puppet in the general election.

but it doesnt change the fact that you guys are now pro russian sympathizers.

Putin ordered the attack on the DNC, ordered the propaganda hit, is the reason that one plane got shot down, and yet the best argument any of you fake ass patriots have is:


uhhh... uhhh... OBAMA!

absolutely pathetic. 80% of people in this thread i would never serve with in my life. you guys would sell us out to the enemy and then find a way to blame it on hillary for why you have no balls.

he we have our intelligence agencies ALL in agreement that russian meddled in our election in an attempt to sway the election into Trump's favor.

and yet all trump can do is go "where are the servers" while standing on stage with our greatest adversary in our country's history.

and then walk it back. and then walk back the walk back.

and yall defend this? i wouldnt pee on fire to put half of yall out cause you might snitch to the enemy after you're captured.


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sup bro.

man this crap ticks me off. i mean dude really stood up there talking about where are the servers, and where are hillary's emails.

he was this close to calling obama a foreign born muslim again. he brought out all the other greatest hits.

i mean look at the conservatives. still talking about debunked conspiracies like uranium one.


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Are you referring to OCD as unhinged, or are you referring to something else?


You're trying to get a straight answer from a crooked person.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Are you referring to OCD as unhinged, or are you referring to something else?


You're trying to get a straight answer from a crooked person.


Was he asking Obama a question? notallthere

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Are you referring to OCD as unhinged, or are you referring to something else?


You're trying to get a straight answer from a crooked person.


Was he asking Obama a question? notallthere


My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.

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No, he was asking you. You couldn't give someone a straight answer to an honest question if your life depended on it.


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It was a yes or no answer and Vambo couldn't even answer it! It speaks a lot to a persons character when they won't own up to their own words and actions.


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My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.


Such an adult reply... tsktsk

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My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.


Such an adult reply... tsktsk



lol, somebody helped you with this post! Who was it?

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It was a yes or no answer and Vambo couldn't even answer it! It speaks a lot to a persons character when they won't own up to their own words and actions.


You had deleted half of the original post, you I asked you to clarify since all the information was not there. tsktsk

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.


Such an adult reply... tsktsk



lol, somebody helped you with this post! Who was it?


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My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.


Such an adult reply... tsktsk



lol, somebody helped you with this post! Who was it?


Obama


Your Daddy, I see now.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: Vambo
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My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.


Such an adult reply... tsktsk



lol, somebody helped you with this post! Who was it?


Obama


Your Daddy, I see now.


A new low for you.

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Knew you would love that. Mr. Vambo Obama.

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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It was a yes or no answer and Vambo couldn't even answer it! It speaks a lot to a persons character when they won't own up to their own words and actions.


You had deleted half of the original post, you I asked you to clarify since all the information was not there. tsktsk


And I reposted the original full post in two separate replies to you. Are you familiar with the phrase "You can lead someone to water but you can't make them drink?"

Again, you being unable to answer a simple yes or no question in reference to a two word statement you made speaks very poorly about your personal character.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: Vambo
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: gage
Are you referring to OCD as unhinged, or are you referring to something else?


You're trying to get a straight answer from a crooked person.


Was he asking Obama a question? notallthere


My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.
on a side note, all poop jokes are funny.

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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Are you referring to OCD as unhinged, or are you referring to something else?


You're trying to get a straight answer from a crooked person.


Was he asking Obama a question? notallthere


My name Vambo. I are 12. Poop is funny. fun 2.
on a side note, all poop jokes are funny.


point proven. smh

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thanks.


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I suppose it's possibly more sinister, but I don't think Trump's view on Russians attempting to hack us is much different than mine: So what?

They aren't the only ones and the U.S. certainly isn't exempt from that list of trying to influence foreign elections (anyone recall Obama's interference in trying to keep Bibi from getting re-elected?).

Everyone does it. Complaining and crying and whining and hand ringing about it is asinine. Hacking and spying (cough cough Obama admin hacking Merkel's phone..) is standard international relations. You crybabies don't even actually know what you are crying about.

-So Trump is supposed to go hard and push for severe sanctions on Russia? Ok, but be prepared for sanctions in return for the exact same reasoning #evensteven

-So Trump is supposed to go hard and plunge us in to war? Ok, just prepared to own the dead instead of claiming "we shouldn't have gone in".

-So Trump is supposed to bring talks to a screeching halt and demand Putin turn the 12 Russians over? Ok, but be prepared to willingly turn over 12 U.S. citizens who they identify as having hacked or attempted to hack Russian processes. #evensteven

For crying out loud this whole issue is stupid LOL It was alleged that American hackers managed to get one of NK's ballistic missiles to prematurely explode. Are you guys ready to turn those responsible over to NK?

Countries trying to hack other countries is as common as people stealing pens.

There's only 2 things we need to be concerned about with this issue:

1) do we have adequate defenses to protect us from this kind of hacking (BTW this makes a great case for not having polling machines become electronic and web based..)

and 2) are we capable and doing enough to hack and screw over the other guys more than they are us?

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I suppose it's possibly more sinister, but I don't think Trump's view on Russians attempting to hack us is much different than mine: So what?


Trump is a barely sentient imbecile who can be talked into anything.

I'm with you on the "so what?" part, but the "so" part comes with the fact that Trump is the senile old man being led by the arm.

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You had deleted half of the original post, you I asked you to clarify since all the information was not there. tsktsk


A Trump University graduate?


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You had deleted half of the original post, you I asked you to clarify since all the information was not there. tsktsk


A Trump University graduate?

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66% of Republicans approve of Trump's Helsinki comments.


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Little public support for Trump in doubting Russian interference (POLL)

Good Morning America GARY LANGER,Good Morning America 1 hour 49 minutes ago .

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Little public support for Trump in doubting Russian interference (POLL) originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

A majority of Americans disapprove of Donald Trump casting doubt about U.S. intelligence on Russian interference in the 2016 election, with relatively modest support for the president even in his own party and among conservatives in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

The public by a 17-point margin also says America’s leadership in the world has gotten weaker, not stronger, under Trump. And just 33 percent approve of his handling of his summit with Vladimir Putin last week, with four in 10 saying he went too far in supporting the Russian leader.

See PDF for full results, charts and tables.

PHOTO: President Donald Trump, left, and Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, shake hands at the beginning of a meeting at the Presidential Palace in Helsinki, Finland, July 16, 2018. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP, FILE)
Fifty-six percent disapprove of Trump, in a post-summit news conference with Putin, expressing doubt about U.S. intelligence conclusions that Russia tried to influence the U.S. election; just 29 percent approve. Indeed, 41 percent disapprove “strongly,” vs. just 14 percent strongly approving.
Just 51 percent of Republicans and 44 percent of conservatives approve of Trump questioning U.S. intelligence on the matter, tepid levels of support in his base. In the political center, 59 percent of independents disapprove, as do 68 percent of moderates. Indeed, disapproval of Trump on this issue is as high among moderates as it is among liberals.

In terms of intensity of sentiment, the survey, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds that 70 percent of Democrats and 61 percent of liberals strongly disapprove of Trump questioning U.S. intelligence on the matter, while just 28 percent of Republicans and 24 percent of conservatives strongly approve.

Trump walked back his comments after returning to Washington, saying he misspoke when he questioned U.S. intelligence conclusions that Russia in fact tried to influence the election. But he also seemed to equivocate, saying, “Could be other people also. A lot of people out there.”

Trump’s challenges on this issue are made clear by the more typical partisan and ideological divisions on the broader question of whether he’s strengthened or weakened U.S. leadership in the world. Overall, 47 percent of Americans say America’s leadership has weakened under Trump, 30 percent say it’s grown stronger and 20 percent see no change. While 80 percent of Democrats see a weakened United States, 74 percent of Republicans say it’s stronger.

Again, though, Trump loses the middle, with independents seeing weaker rather than stronger U.S. leadership by 47-22 percent (as do moderates, by 54-17 percent). Moreover, while 72 percent of liberals say the United States has grown weaker in terms of world leadership, fewer conservatives say the opposite, 55 percent.

Better for Trump is that views on U.S. leadership under his presidency haven’t worsened despite the uproar over the Putin meeting. Last November, 53 percent said U.S. leadership had grown weaker; it’s in fact slightly lower now.

In terms of the Trump-Putin summit overall, 50 percent disapprove of how Trump handled it, while, as noted, 33 percent approve. (The rest, 18 percent, have no opinion.) Again Trump has comparative difficulty in his base; 66 percent of Republicans approve while 83 percent of Democrats disapprove, and 58 percent of conservatives approve while 73 percent of liberals disapprove.

In the middle, independents divide by 33-46 percent, disapproving by a 13-point margin. Among moderates this swells to a 45-point margin, 19-64 percent, approve-disapprove.

Lastly, 40 percent say Trump went too far in supporting Putin; 15 percent say he didn’t go far enough and 35 percent say he handled this about right. The partisan divisions are more balanced: Sixty-eight percent of Democrats say he went too far, 68 percent of Republicans say he handled it about right and independents are essentially divided on the question.

Methodology

This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone July 18-20, 2018, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 464 adults. Results have a margin of sampling error of 5.5 percentage points for the full sample, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 32-24-38 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by SSRS of Glen Mills, Pa. See details on the survey’s methodology here.
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Ukraine Conducts test of First US-Supplied Javelin Rocket Launchers.

Ukrainian president Poroshenko thanks Donald Trump ..... wonder that Putin has to say about this ?

"Finally this day has come! Today, for the first time in Ukraine, the launch of Javelin missile complexes took place. This is a very effective defensive weaponry, which is used in the event of Russian offensive on the positions of Ukrainian troops," Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko wrote on Twitter.

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Fake News. Trump sent them defensive weapons, your boy sent blankets and a letter of apology.

U.S. decision to provide anti-tank missiles to Ukraine angers Russian leaders

President Trump’s long-delayed decision to provide Ukraine with defensive lethal weapons signaled a new willingness to oppose Russian intervention in its neighbor, but has made European allies nervous that a recent hike in fighting could escalate.

The State Department said Friday that the administration would supply the government in Kiev with Javelin anti-tank missiles to destroy armored vehicles used by Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, and to raise the cost of Russia’s intervention in the conflict.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-us-ukraine-20171226-story.html

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