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So, this is a quick test, or guide, to determine what "label" if you will, or the actual political leaning you relate to the closest.

https://8values.github.io/

so it ask a series of question, such as the government involvements in markets, or strength of military.

once you take the test, post the results. just post what it said overall, and then go to google or something and post a brief description. and then explain - if you want - whether or not you agree, disagree, or unsure if its an accurate description of what your views are, or closely related to.

i dunno how many people will actually participate, but i think this would be good so that everyone is aware of the general leanings of each poster. this could help gain more understanding of one another, as well as maybe ease the tension that sometimes gets heated around here.


here's mine, for example:

Libertarian Socialism

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=75.0&d=69.1&g=75.4&s=84.5

Libertarian socialism (or socialist libertarianism)[1] is a group of anti-authoritarian[2] political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy.[3]

Libertarian socialism also rejects the state itself,[4] is close to and overlaps with left-libertarianism,[5][6] and criticizes wage labour relationships within the workplace,[7] instead emphasizing workers' self-management of the workplace[4] and decentralized structures of political organization.[8][9][10] It asserts that a society based on freedom and justice can be achieved through abolishing authoritarian institutions that control certain means of production and subordinate the majority to an owning class or political and economic elite.[11] Libertarian socialists advocate for decentralized structures based on direct democracy and federal or confederal associations such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

this makes sense, but i do have questions. i would figure the economic axis would be a bit closer to the middle than pretty much completely social, but obviously there will be variants.

i do have a strong dislike of most institutions, as i think most are corrupt. maybe not inherently, but have evolve into corrupted institutions to the point where i dont know if they can actually be saved. i think some institutions should either be abolished altogether, or ran as its own separate agency, such as ICE.

i absolutely value diplomacy over war, despite being deployed multiple times. and obviously im very progressive when it comes to social issues, as i think people who like to use the word "Tradition" a lot tend to be people who dont like change, regardless on if the change is desperately needed or not.


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I don't have the focus to answer 70 questions.

Sorry.

I know I'm a right leaning libertarian.


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it wasnt 70 questions.


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I didn't understand all the questions. LOL

Here's mine:

Closest Match: Social Liberalism

Economic Axis: Social

Diplomatic Axis: Peaceful

Civil Axis: Moderate

Societal Axis: Progressive

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It says "Question 1 of 70"

What am I missing here?


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do you agree with the results? concerns?


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
It says "Question 1 of 70"

What am I missing here?


nevermind, i flew through it so i didnt even pay attention to the number. just the questions. my bad homey


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My Prediction:

More and More people are realizing they are libertarians, every day.

So we will have a functional and not joke Libertarian Party.

And we will win!


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do you agree with the results? concerns?


I pretty much agree w/the results, but I would have liked clarification on some of the questions and I think some of the questions were much too broad.

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Centrist. I usually tend to be slightly right-of-center so the result wasn't surprising to me...


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Mine says Witch Hunter / Christian Persecutor...

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Centrist. I usually tend to be slightly right-of-center so the result wasn't surprising to me...


what was your diplomatic scale?


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do you agree with the results? concerns?


I pretty much agree w/the results, but I would have liked clarification on some of the questions and I think some of the questions were much too broad.


some of them certainly were, which is why i answered neutral/unsure on 2-3 questions.


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8values Results

Economic Axis: Social (Equality 61.0% / Markets 39.0%)

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced (Nation 41.0% / World 59.0%)

Civil Axis: Moderate (Liberty 48.1%/ Authority 51.9%)

Societal Axis: Progressive (Tradition 38.4%/ Progress 61.6%)

Closest Match: Centrist


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Centrist. I usually tend to be slightly right-of-center so the result wasn't surprising to me...


what was your diplomatic scale?


I didn't record the results, just the 'bottom line'. IIRC, all scales were in the 41-59 range...


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Does it line up with what you thought, accurately?


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Theocratic Distributism - is what it come up with for me but I disagree. I don't want the Church involved with the government. I just don't want the government involved with my religion either.

I am socialist on issue of the public welfare like schools, medicine, and food. However I love to have a strong military that stops more wars than they start because people fear messing with you. I think business should be left alone except when it comes to protecting the environment because after all we all have to live in it so we might as well make it prosper. I am not about revolution and overthrowing the government though.

I do believe that our people require a culture that instills strong family values, community cooperation, and puts a strong desire for the high value of an education whether it be scholarly or vocationally.

I'm really tough on crime. I think people who harm others and our society should be gotten rid of. Permanently. Yet, those who just make minor screw ups should be quickly forgiven and helped to make their way to a productive life instead of rotting in a cell. I don't think any crime should have more than a 5 year sentence and we best get that person prepared and ready to work when they get out. If the crime is soooo bad you need a stiffer punishment then I say get rid of them and be done with it rather than creating a criminal who is ever more violent and deadly with no chance to ever come back to society.

I don't think race or sex should have anything to do with your public life. What you do in bed is your private affair so keep them out of mine. The color of your skin should not hinder you or help you in anyway because people are just people if you treat them like people.

I do believe that marriage is for a man and woman only in order to validate and legally protect their offspring. That being said, I think ANY group of people who want to say they are family should be able to form a partnership and work together to get through this tough and difficult life. For instance, let's say two siblings live together and take care of each other and one has a job while the other is disabled or stays home to raise his sibling's child. They should be able to have the working sibling use his work insurance on the sibling he is living with. I just don't think that arrangement has to be one of homosexuality. I mean if I am big brother and I want to provide for my siblings then I should be allowed to. You also have polygamist who can't all be legally married under current law but yet they are all working together as one family so why not let them form a civil partnership to share benefits together. I mean there are so many ways of living as a family that don't fit into a neat little box that I think there should be more flexibility to help them out while still preserving the core of our cultural ideal.

I do believe as a country you have to strive for a singular culture to unify the people. I think that immigrants should adapt to the USA and not the other way around. I prefer the European culture because that is what our country was founded on and is what we mostly are.

I understand nothing is perfect but I believe we shouldn't use that as an excuse to be lazy and not try to be our very best.

I don't think hatred of anyone is acceptable. We don't all have to agree on things and we can all argue till we are blue in the face but this idea that just because we have different views that it is ok to be verbally abusive or physically violent is not acceptable to me. We can be tolerant by being kind to each other even though we don't agree. Being forced to change your views through social and physical violence is not democracy but rather tyranny and as americans we should never tolerate tyranny. Say your piece. Agree to disagree and then move on.

I always respect anyone who can argue and disagree with me if we can be civil towards each other. Nothing wrong with being different from each other. This is America after all =)


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Mine says Witch Hunter / Christian Persecutor...

jk of course.


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Does it line up with what you thought, accurately?


I think it's a pretty accurate assessment of my views on things.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Does it line up with what you thought, accurately?


I think the questions are a little too lopsided and extreme in some cases but for the most part the questions are fair. These tests can always be wird results though. I've had some tell me I am a Stalinist LOL.


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Economic Axis: Social
73.8% Equality-26.2% Markets

Diplomatic Axis: Peaceful
38.3% Nation-61.7% World

Civil Axis: Liberal
65.0% Liberty-35.0% Authority

Societal Axis: Progressive
25.7% Tradition-74.3% Progress

Closest Match: Social Liberalism

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Economic Axis: Centrist
Diplomatic Axis: Balanced
Civil Axis: Liberal
Societal Axis: Progressive
Closest Match: Liberalism

Economic Axis: Centrist
54.9%
45.1%

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced

40.4%
59.6%

Civil Axis: Liberal
60.4%
39.6%

Societal Axis: Progressive
34.1%
65.9%

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Other than your view on marriage being between a man and a woman - I'd say we are pretty close. Interesting that we got very different boxes to land in.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Mine says Witch Hunter / Christian Persecutor...

jk of course.

How can you hunt witches AND persecute those who also hunt witches? tongue


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Absolutely glad you posted this.

But may I ask, and this is a question for everybody.

What exactly is European culture? Cause American culture overall today is not like European culture is...like, at all.


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You’re higher % on nation than I was.

Cause globalist, yo.


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How balanced were you on economics?


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Pretty balanced. I went back to add the % for each ... As someone said some of the questions are goofy or extreme ... it'd be easy to tip a category one way or another pretty easily.


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Economic Axis: Centrist
Diplomatic Axis: Balanced
Civil Axis: Moderate
Societal Axis: Progressive
Closest Match: Liberalism

Economic Axis: Centrist
59.8%
40.2%

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced

47.3%
52.7%

Civil Axis: Moderate
55.8%
44.2%

Societal Axis: Progressive
37.8%
62.2%


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60/40/60/40

Centrist with a slight left lean.

Or a snowflake liberal in the Dawgtalkers world


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Though I should post the numbers even if I didn't agree with the outcome.

Economic Axis: Social
Equality 65.2% ................... Markets 34.8%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic
Nation 60.6% ..................... World 39.4%

Civil Axis: Statist
Liberty 31.2% .................... Authority 68.8%

Societal Axis: Traditional
Tradition 61.2% .................. Progress 38.8%

Results: Theocratic Distributism


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Absolutely glad you posted this.

But may I ask, and this is a question for everybody.

What exactly is European culture? Cause American culture overall today is not like European culture is...like, at all.


That's a fair question and its pretty late atm so I will try to not stumble in my words too much.


Traditional family structures where the children come first
Hardworking being manly and honorable
A high value placed on education
A high value placed on basic and general healthcare
Structured laws that are meant to be fair to all
If you have the means then you should be very charitable towards those with less.
The rich have an obligation to care for the country
Jobs for the working class is crucial
When the work is done we MUST have FUN =)
Be kind to your neighbors and work together for the good of the community.
Treating God with respect whether you believe in him or not.
Having good manners is essential.
Stand up for what you believe is right and let your voice be heard.
Cowards can rot.
Those who hurt kids deserve severe punishment. Kids have to be protected no matter what.
Keep your sex life in your bedroom where it belongs and leave me out of it.
We love great food and those who can appreciate it with us =)

I realize that both the US and Europe have gone through some radical changes of late so know that I refer to the more traditional views.


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I guess I'm a centrist?

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=58.5&d=52.7&g=55.8&s=51.2

That's the first time I've ever heard that word used.

Centrist: Having moderate political views or policies.

From wikipedia: Various political ideologies, such as Christian democracy, can be classified as centrist.

I'm okay with that, I guess.

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Economic Axis: Centrist

47.6%
52.4%

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced

52.1%
47.9%

Civil Axis: Liberal

65.4%
34.6%

Societal Axis: Neutral

41.5%
58.5%

Closest Match: Liberalism

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I got 'Liberalism' which kinda blew me away. I had to read it twice because I thought it said Libertarian and I was just like, "Yup" and kept going.

Economic Axis: Centrist

48.8%
51.2%

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced

45.2%
54.8%

Civil Axis: Moderate

57.3%
42.7%

Societal Axis: Neutral

41.7%
58.3%

Closest Match: Liberalism


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I should've also added that I ended up responding 'Unsure/neutral' on quite a few questions because I really didn't like the wording. I don't like trying to assume what the intent of the question was and then answering based on that, so I just end up punting on the question quite a bit.


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I'm a fence sitter.

Economic Axis: Centrist
45.1%
54.9%

Diplomatic Axis: Balanced
57.4%
42.6%

Civil Axis: Moderate
59.6%
40.4%

Societal Axis: Neutral
47.8%
52.2%


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