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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
... throw crap at the wall and see what sticks ...


I do that for spaghetti; not so much for LT's though...


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Uhmmmm............we drafted him at 33. Do you realize how high that actually is?

Dude was a reach. Big time. Just like almost every other pick we had in the first few rounds.

The only one I kinda like is Ward. I think we reached on him, but I think he can be very good and it as a huge need.

However, Mayfield was a huge reach. Corbett is a huge reach. Chubb was a reach. Even my man Ward was a reach, but again....I get that one.

And yes, critics of free thought...........I understand that it is "too early to judge a draft." LOL

Just giving my thoughts on the subject on a football message board. And, if you think about it..........how many times do you hear "it's too early to evaluate this rookie" when people say.........."great pick?"

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If Greg Robinson is/was our plan at LT, then we're screwed. If he has to go there due to injury/emergency, then so be it .... but I'm not thrilled about our prospects at LT and disappointed that Corbett (the 33rd overall pick) is someone who won't help us immediately.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Uhmmmm............we drafted him at 33. Do you realize how high that actually is?


My spelling and punctuation is horrible ... math on th other hand ... love me some math ... its logical and always ads up ... unlike stats math is accurate and reliable ...

So ya, ... i realize how high #33 is in the draft ... wink

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Dude was a reach. Big time.


I agree he was a reach according to the talking heads and more than likely almost every if not every nfl teams draft boards ... if Dorsey and co had him ranked #1 on our board ... i said i was fine with taking an interior OLman cause u can never have enough OLman ... u may not agree with that draft strategy but i have no problem making OL a priority almost every year as part of your draft strategy ...

I also said I HOPE he works out ... i agree with u .. he was a reach ...


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Just like almost every other pick we had in the first few rounds.

The only one I kinda like is Ward. I think we reached on him, but I think he can be very good and it as a huge need.

However, Mayfield was a huge reach. Corbett is a huge reach. Chubb was a reach. Even my man Ward was a reach, but again....I get that one.


My perception of what u said about Ward is u think he’s a reach but you understand it cause he was the best cover corner and that was prolly the worst position on the team at that point and Williams loves “man’ corners witch is what Ward is ... if thats correct, who could we have picked at 4 that wouldn’t have been a reach in your opinion ...

Not sure how Baker was a reach either ... every QB had questions ... EVERY ONE of them .. there was no Andrew Luck John Elway in this draft ...

Corbett ... i agree .... he was the one pick that reminded of past regimes where i just scrathched my head and said WTF ... but i’m fine with taking an OLman that high and qualified the parameters ...

I don’t agree on Chubb ... i think your gonna end up loving this kid ... lets hope i’m right on this one ...

I understand your take on Corbett and Chubb ... not sure why u think why Baker and Ward were reaches ... interested in seeing who u thought would have not been a reach at #4 ...

Same question for #1 .. who would have u considered to be legite #1 picks and not a reach ...




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j/c

to sum up the draft IMO:

- Mayfield - any QB we selected would come with questions because there was such diversity
- Ward - IMO a reach and the incorrect choice, though I do GET why we chose CB
- Corbett - I think he's probably a solid guard, but it seemed to not "fit" a need ... so a reach
- Thomas .. another head scratcher
- Chubb ... I'm okay with
- Callaway ... a true gamble
- Avery ... My favorite pick


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Who were the players u would have chosen at #4 that u would have not considered a reach?




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I think you know why I think Mayfield was a reach. I provided my analysis on him before the draft. I won't rehash it now because it will just start another war.

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I didnt ask why Baker was a reach ... i asked who you considered not a reach at #1 and #4 ..

Not asking for any analysis at all on who we picked ...

just the player(s) u would have not considered reaches ...

I’m just curious ..




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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Yet, we drafted a dude who isn't really a good LT prospect at the top of the second round.

"[Bitonio] Originally drafted by Cleveland in the second round (35th overall) of the 2014 NFL Draft."

ClevelandBrowns.com

Granted, as had been discussed recently, Bitonio is a good LT prospect. But I don't think the Browns drafted him as a future LT.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Who were the players u would have chosen at #4 that u would have not considered a reach?
I thought Chubb was clearly the best player available, and I also thought Derwin James was a better player than Ward.

Heck, if we were going to draft a guard at #33 w/Corbett ... you might as well take the safest player in the draft at #4: Nelson


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Yeah I never really thought he was drafted to play LT or RT. That is why the pick confused me and I stated so right away keeping in mind I'm a homer but I am true to my thoughts.
Some actually attacked my opinion and I got the backlash to my questioning on Why? cause we didn't clearly state a position for him which at 33 had to come with a PLAN. I thought Center was a real possibility and eventually that would give us a great Interior. I do know we are going to need Cap space if all these top end drafted players are going to need a 2nd contract and maybe we will not pursue Zietler again???

I still question the pick on what the plan was. Its strange to take somebody cause of Versatile rather than a specific position when we were picking #33. Hey not a mistake but just not without confusing the heck out of me and I've been consistent on that opinion.

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