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LOL....I just said I wouldn't talk religion at the bar, but I just bellied up.


Christ is my savior.


That said, I also think that God can manifest in any form needed to spread the message. God is all powerful, right?

I think we all worship the same God. We just call it a different name.


There is Satan and false God, and there is where us humans get in to a problem.


As I see it, we don't not believe in God, we disagree on the messenger.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

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quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.

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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Yeah, I'm sure no one ever thought they should ever treat people how you'd like to be treated (others did, look it up). It's a nice saying, and a good philosophy. Just because Christ (who may have existed, may not have) said it, doesn't mean he was the first.


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Not exactly - the Golden Rule was original from Hillel, a Jewish religious leader who lived about 100 BC.

Hillel

another link Hillel2

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Originally Posted By: sk8termom
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Not exactly - the Golden Rule was original from Hillel, a Jewish religious leader who lived about 100 BC.

Hillel

another link Hillel2


Goes back even farther than that.
Ancient Egypt.- circa 2000 BCE “Do for one who may do for you, That you may cause him thus to do.” – The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant 109-110,

Even if it was never documented, its not a mind blowing philosophy that is inconceivable that someone could have said it, or lived it.


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Originally Posted By: YepTheBrownsRule
Originally Posted By: sk8termom
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Not exactly - the Golden Rule was original from Hillel, a Jewish religious leader who lived about 100 BC.

Hillel

another link Hillel2


Goes back even farther than that.
Ancient Egypt.- circa 2000 BCE “Do for one who may do for you, That you may cause him thus to do.” – The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant 109-110,

Even if it was never documented, its not a mind blowing philosophy that is inconceivable that someone could have said it, or lived it.



Interesting...


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
To me, the very saddest thing on this earth are terminally-ill children.

They’re such incredible little troopers.

At least let them believe that they’re going to a paradise where everything is wonderful and perfect.

And you know what?

They are.


This has been a very good thread, but this is the post I'm going to reply to first.

What do you mean "let them believe....? Name one person on this thread that said that people should not have the right to believe in God or practice religion.

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I do have to say that I am surprised at how civil this thread has been. This topic has been on my mind for a long time, but I was always afraid to express my feelings. Not so much for the criticism I might face, but more so for upsetting nice people who are true believers.

I just read several great posts from you guys. Very moving. I think you guys were very eloquent in how you presented your thoughts on this subject.

As Descartes said long ago: "I think, therefore I am." I believe that man has searched for meaning and his place in the universe since the beginning of time. The most notable aspect of that is that despite being around 200,000 years or so.......we still don't have the answer.

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Originally Posted By: YepTheBrownsRule
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Yeah, I'm sure no one ever thought they should ever treat people how you'd like to be treated (others did, look it up). It's a nice saying, and a good philosophy. Just because Christ (who may have existed, may not have) said it, doesn't mean he was the first.


There's enough evidence thwt at the very least jesus of nazereth did exist... if he is the lord is more debatable... but historical jesus as a man I think Is easily proved...

I do agree with you though thwt I'm not sure th golden rule started with jesus...


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I agree.. I typically avoide the political forum and almost always avoid religious threads but this has been a good one... fully respect everyone who has posted on here and have enjoyed reading people's differing viewpoints... I do partly wish we had some more variety with other religions.. I've had some good friends who are Muslim and Hindu and I've enjoyed learning more about their religions... I've always felt that it's important to learn about b It other cultures and religions even if I don't agree with them... I need to respect them and be knowledgeable...


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Originally Posted By: YepTheBrownsRule
Originally Posted By: sk8termom
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
quote above by YeptheBrownsRule:

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I think all religions are BS. Follow the golden rule and you'll be a good person and the world would be a much better place.


You're funny.

"The Golden Rule" is straight from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It's a moral philosophy that didn't exist until Christ.

In one sentence:

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

And you're right. The world would be a better place.



Not exactly - the Golden Rule was original from Hillel, a Jewish religious leader who lived about 100 BC.

Hillel

another link Hillel2


Goes back even farther than that.
Ancient Egypt.- circa 2000 BCE “Do for one who may do for you, That you may cause him thus to do.” – The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant 109-110,

Even if it was never documented, its not a mind blowing philosophy that is inconceivable that someone could have said it, or lived it.


This isn't the Golden Rule, this is an eloquent way of saying do this so he's obligated to do that.

The Golden Rule is treat others the way you want to be treated regardless of how they treat you.


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jay, I remember when I first heard about other faiths such as Muslims and Buddhists. I remember reading about Allah.

I was so confused and could not understand how so many people could be worshiping a different God than I was. I asked my parents about this. I brought it up in school. I brought it up in Confession when I said that I wondered if our God was the true God and if perhaps other religions had it right.

I have never been able to answer those questions. I have a very hard time telling millions of people that my God is real and your is not.

I think that is what really got me to wondering about how valid "religions" were. As I got older, I noticed the other things that I brought up earlier.

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ut oh.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
jay, I remember when I first heard about other faiths such as Muslims and Buddhists. I remember reading about Allah.

I was so confused and could not understand how so many people could be worshiping a different God than I was. I asked my parents about this. I brought it up in school. I brought it up in Confession when I said that I wondered if our God was the true God and if perhaps other religions had it right.

I have never been able to answer those questions. I have a very hard time telling millions of people that my God is real and your is not.

I think that is what really got me to wondering about how valid "religions" were. As I got older, I noticed the other things that I brought up earlier.
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People's religion is largely based up geography and culture. Sure you get the outcasts, but by and large it's where you were born and what your familial culture is. Not much unlike the sports teams you root for.


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One could probably extend that assertion to politics as well.

I'll be honest: my personal politics were shaped by my family's norms, values and standards just as my religious/spiritual doctrine was shaped by my Baptist upbringing.

Pretty much all of it was family/tribe to some degree.



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I guess I am the outcast.

Neither my political views nor religious views have anything to do with how I was raised.

My life shaped my views.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I guess I am the outcast.

Neither my political views nor religious views have anything to do with how I was raised.

My life shaped my views.


That happens on a small scale. My family is Christian, I grew up questioning everything as I got older.

Politically I grew up differing but now tend to lean

the same way. Funny thing is, on a micro scale I'm more conservative, but macro I'm more liberal/progressive.


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