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well, i think his quotes to the media when he said "nothing was there" blah blah ... that kind of indicts him now even worse.

But, I don't really know all the specifics

This was a main talking point on Colin Cowherd today as well.

Won't touch him, be shocked if it did.

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Urban Meyer placed on administrative leave, Ohio State announces.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/194/ohio-state-buckeyes

Welp....Atleast we got a title out of him.

Good. What the hell is this? This is very disappointing.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2042037522486968&id=823615204329212

link to the report/ Facebook blog post

sounds pretty bad .. same thing that happened to Pitino

Gee, what timing.

As if the timing was chosen for maximum impact.

j/c:

I smell BS!

But, before I comment further..............I have a question.

Did Urban know of the "allegations" or did he know that the guy was actually "convicted" of the crimes?

So a head coach is responsible for everything his players AND coaches do on and off the field? And must tell the media what he knows about a coaches private life?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the big deal. This isn't me accepting what the other coach did, he sounds like a monster or at least a huge big jerk, but should Ohio State implode for this?

I'm no OSU fan either. I support Toledo and often root against OSU. If this were happening to Alabama or UCLA I'd say the same thing. Again, I must be missing something about the issue here.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. People are acting like he hid it from the police...the domestic violence report was filed with the police!

People act like this is Urban's job to be a marriage counselor, and be the judge and jury for this dispute. That is not his job. And sorry, it's not anybody's fault but her own for not filing charges. I'm sure all that money she was getting while her husband still had a job had nothing to do with it...

So Urban maybe lied to the media about knowing about it...that is a fireable offense? Lying to the media? Not covering up anything? Really?

Was the dude convicted of the crimes?

If not, why should have Urban have fired him?

Are we at a point where we automatically fire people due to allegations?

Shoot man............let's bring back the Jim Crow Laws.

For real...people act like vigilante justice should be legal in this country.

There is a reason we have police, judges, and juries in this country.

Agreed.



Now, maybe I have this wrong, if so, someone correct me.

Did the police charge this guy?

Did the D.A. prosecute this guy?

Was he found guilty in a court of law?



Urban isn't a cop. Urban isn't a D.A. Urban wasn't on any jury (if there was one) in this case.

Was he obligated to report it though if he knew something was up?

I'm on the fence.... don't think he should be held accountable for another mans crimes but if he knew something and didn't report it that's not right

"She did not press charges in 2009. Zach Smith was investigated in 2015 for suspicion of felony domestic violence after an incident that resulted in unspecified injuries and showed evidence of sustained abuse. In the Powell, Ohio, police report regarding that incident, Courtney Smith said she had been a victim of habitual domestic abuse. Cleveland.com on Wednesday identified nine reports from Powell police involving domestic disputes between the couple from 2012-18."

This is from the ESPN story. Police already new back in 2012. Who is Urban supposed to report it to if the police already knew about it?

Again, if I'm wrong here, someone let me know.

I thought the police had investigated this guy, and found nothing. Maybe I'm wrong.

i'm not pretending to know everything about the case, but my assumption is:

- Urban's wife was told of the 2015 domestic violence incidences
- She (and other coaches' wives) were informed
- The wives supposedly told their husbands
- Thus, Urban is now the legal reporter due to state law and his contract (both are KEY points)
- He didn't report it (that we know of)
- He then lied about it last week ... he said "there was nothing"
- Now the girl comes back out with PROOF that damns Meyer and his lie

In his new contact yes. In his old contact, it's unclear.
Source:
https://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/status/1024780908350431232?s=19

Look if Urban ran IBM he could hire all the wife beaters he wants. However, he's a public employee, not to mention the highest paid employee in the state, he has a responsibility to report these issues and to seriously investigate them. He did neither. This is unacceptable.

I'm talin g abut 2015... if she was abused in 2015 and urban knew and didn't report then he c I'll be in trouble

It's weird that they JUST added this clause to his contract back in April about domestic violence stuff

But Kaep can be accused of rape and he is a hero. GTH outta here.

So who’s the next OSU head coach?

I would assume that they did this for all of their coaches in the spring. I believe they were halfway through their investigation of Dr. Strauss during the winter. Not a good few months for Ohio State.

Title IX is meant to protect student athletes 1st, and university employees 2nd (workplace sexual harassment)...not cases involving a husband and his wife.

Also, I don't think domestic violence falls in the Sexual Misconduct policy...there is nothing sexual about it.

Not Title IX Violation

I saw something else on Twitter that was another clause in addition to sexual conduct .. I'll try to find it

This didn't age well.

Urban Meyer is supposed to be a leader. Leaders don't look the other way when the people under them are misbehaving in this type of manner (or any manner). As we all know, Meyer has a history of looking the other way when in the face of misconduct.

Meyer knew and should have done something. He did nothing and then lied. He will probably be fired. Or fake an illness.

Unless Meyer knew more and didn't tell the police or failed to cooperate with an investigation or something along those lines, I don't see how you can hold him responsible for this.

This new trend in public outrage where anytime allegations are made against somebody, it means they have to be fired or isolated ... and anybody associated with them has to distance themselves or they are somehow guilty by association.. is getting a bit ridiculous.

He lied about not knowing.

Possibly.

But, the cops did nothing. The D.A. did nothing. And obviously, no jury was called.

So why is it Urban's fault?

Why not go after the A.D. at OSU, or even the President of the school?

Good questions. If they all knew and did nothing they should all probably be gone too.

Joe Paterno knew about children getting raped by one his assistants and did nothing. He got fired and everyone else lost their jobs as well. This case is not dissimilar.

My one question is. How can he hold student athletes accountable for domestic violence if he doesn't hold his own coaches accountable?

I mean, that's the deal right? If one of the players beats a girl, they're suspended. Right? How is it any different if a coach beats their wife?

Just read that, I had no idea. Interesting.

being a legal/mandated reporter is a huge deal ... everyone in education (at least public education) knows this

At the very least, his job is: when you find this information out, you have to relay it to your superior.

That is at the very least.

My big question in all of this: WHY did he feel the need to protect this coach so much? I mean, there was a clear pattern of Meyer protecting this guy.

Did he just care so much about Earl Bruce and feel loyalty? (possible)
Did he think the coach was THAT irreplaceable? (doubtful)
Did he want to protect his/OSU's reputation? (more likely)

The crimes are quite different, but is it any different than Paterno not reporting or firing Sandusky? At the time Joe knew about it, Sandusky hadn't been convicted of any crimes.

This sucks...

Why are you guys ignoring that the coach wasn't arrested or convicted of a crime?

Are you guys suggesting that we need to punish people before they are legally tried?

That's absurd.

I think we have moved to a place where many members of society like to find fault w/those who have positions of influence.

It's an odd way to live your life.