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Refs: Can this be dumped into the cesspool, please.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
you can say I was "wrong," but that is just an opinion. There was no need for such a mean-spirited attack.

I'll be frank. I have supported minorities for decades. I stand up for y'all all the time. And when I try to make a point about how society overlooks the good acts of minorities and concentrates on the controversial acts of the same group in an effort to support minorities, only to have you and Swish question my ethics..............well, it hurts.

I feel betrayed.

And I just opened myself up to more ridicule from guys like jfan, arch, WSU, Memphis, etc

Well done, fellas.

But, please understand this.........what you two just pulled last night really disturbed me. I'm upset and disenchanted. If that was your goal.......you succeeded.


Fair enough. I'll be more amicable in future disagreements.

It's cool you have supported minorities for so long, but I don't care when someone is a minority. I'm about praxis and bringing workers together. IDPol be damned. Communism is not built on idpol.

The whole point of last night was saying how a black athlete has to do succeed in every part of life to be taken seriously. If a black man, or a minority, in general, is to be taken seriously they have to be a Saint. You can't just be a good guy doing good things, you need to be the best. It's even more annoying when people compare guys like Chris Long and JJ Watt with guys like Kaepernick and Marshawn. Why do we need to make good deeds competitions and mark in this score of social justice?


Look, my Manson comment was in jest. I just didn't know how to respond to your post. You posted about Kaepernick supporting Castro and still talking about oppression. What am I suppose to gleam from your post? That you support Bautista more than Castro?

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Whaaa whaaa... “I don’t like the media”.

Snowflake much? Grow up bro....when I was growing up my parents told me not to believe everything we saw on tv or read in the newspapers. Geeeeez! Man the cyber generation is clueless.


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I'll be frank. I have supported minorities for decades.


Interesting choice of words.


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Whaaa whaaa... “I don’t like the media”.

Snowflake much? Grow up bro....when I was growing up my parents told me not to believe everything we saw on tv or read in the newspapers. Geeeeez! Man the cyber generation is clueless.


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So is this the same newspaper, just sent to different areas? Interesting that they needed to omit key parts of a sentence before sending it out west.


It's interesting to see the ways that televised media gets in on the action. One night I turned on the local news and they said they had a news crew who happened to be sitting at an intersection and managed to capture an entire incident of some of our officers taking a mentally ill man in to custody.

Turns out the dude was in for an involuntary commitment at a local hospital due being a danger to himself and others. Dude subsequently escaped and was found a few blocks away in the middle of an intersection yelling at people. No guns drawn, no taser, no spray... a couple officers managed to get positive control of him and got him secured in an ambulance. No leg sweeps, no punches, no fights... and mind you this news crew captured the entire incident.

After they show the video clip of dude, they cut to an "eye witness" who said the cops grabbed him by his dreads and repeatedly smashed his head off a curb.

They went back to the studio, the anchorwoman looked in the camera for about a second or two, then threw it over to the weather guy.

The news crew never said they saw that, they never showed any footage of anything like that happening, but a the end they put this woman up and let her make a claim of racially motivated police brutality and never challenged it. There was no reason to have put her statement on to begin with.

Then there was an incident where one of our guys killed a drug dealer affiliated with the Bloods after the dealer tried to shoot him with a stolen gun. The local paper published the officers name, his wife's name, where she worked, where they worked out, what church they attended...

Good stuff.


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When lying has no consequence, then everything goes awry...

When opinions are used in place of facts then we get biased news coverage.

What a position has no response then we get news networks that tell half truths. I miss something called the equal time provision that required the media to present both sides.

This problem starts with a President that ignores facts and enjoys media bashing. No wonder he does not get favorable coverage.


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No, not good stuff at all.
This isn't the time for irony or sarcasm.
If what you assert is true, then this media output is slanted and poorly executed.


And consumers such as me would be able to easily see it.
And steer clear, subsequently.


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No, not good stuff at all.
This isn't the time for irony or sarcasm.
If what you assert is true, then this media output is slanted and poorly executed.


And consumers such as me would be able to easily see it.
And steer clear, subsequently.


But what of consumers who may not be as discerning as you?

Let's take the lady who said she saw this man getting his head cracked against the curb. Why would she say she saw something that didn't happen? Especially something as serious as that?

Maybe she's simply that dishonest of a person and knowingly lied?

Maybe she's not been exposed to physical confrontation all that much and witnessed something that for her limited experience she found shocking ( a clutch my pearls kind of person). And in interpreting what she saw she described it in the best terms she was able to.

OR

Maybe she's the kind of person who is inundated day in and day out via local and national media, local community groups, politicians, etc with the narrative that any encounter between a person of color and the police is literally a life and death situation that ever person of color experiences on a daily basis. Almost by default the cops are treating you differently and doing things they wouldn't do with people who don't look like you.

This doesn't necessarily make her a bad person. But it does make her a person who sees an interaction between the cops and a black dude and whose starting point of what she is seeing is that the cops are needlessly harassing the man and treating him unfairly. Mix that with the physical altercation and now she becomes like a lot of other people who recalls details that form her confirmation bias.

Now her interview goes up, unchallenged, unquestioned and is viewed by the other person sitting at home who again, may not be as discerning a viewer as yourself. Someone who sees it and says "Yep, more proof of what I'm told daily".

And as that loop closes it gets tossed on to the pile of injustices and becomes as legitimate and example as Rodney King.

You're right, now is not the time for irony or sarcasm. Now is the time for responsibility and truth. For accountability. The problem is, few people are willing to correct the record if the slanted report in any way can help their cause. Which would you think is the stronger rebuke to the station that aired this report? from someone like me or maybe say the local NAACP reverend who holds multiple rallies about racial injustice, calling the station manager and saying "There is injustice, and we need to fight it, but that report is not an example of it and airing that kind of thing only makes it more difficult for our cause"?

Now, this is an example I cited having some personal experience with it. I even had the local media creatively edit some of my radio traffic to leave out some pretty important information in a deadly force encounter I had some years back.

But at the end of the day, sensationalism sells more than sex does. Groups like folks in the black community get shafted by the media constantly as well. They never go in to report what goes on in poor urban areas unless there is something hot button and potentially controversial going on. I think this kind of thing helps reinforce a sense of isolation from the rest of the Country because their story isn't being told.

4 or 5 people get shot up in a drive by, maybe 30 seconds on the local news. 4 or 5 white college kids get shot up, cable news runs the story as a mass shooting for the next 2 weeks.

Pretty blonde white girl goes missing for a day, she'll get hours of national coverage within 48 hours. If you're black you have to be a 5 yr old little girl who was brutally assaulted and murdered to get that kind of coverage. Maybe.

Throwing it back to the original topic, yeah, it could possibly be a mistake to have included the racial part off the article. But to me it smacks of a lawyer in court purposefully making an inflammatory statement, knowing it will be objected to, knowing the objection will be sustained, and knowing that even though the judge will instruct the jury to disregard, the seed is still planted.

It's not an honest way of doing business and such tactics undermine the purpose of what the media is supposed to do, and why they have special protections under the Constitution, and that is the pursuit of Truth.



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I guess it’s also the media fault when trash comes straight from the horses mouth:


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I mean come on guys, it’s not the presidents fault for saying these things, it’s the “media’s” fault for giving him a platform to say it.

I swear the anti -PC crowded ended up being the softest care bears in this nations history. What a complete fraud the trump movement is.


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I was watching the OSU coverage on ESPN (right after the Urban statement and Zach Smith's interview) and the bias was REAL strong. Sage Steele, Paul Finebaum, etc ... they literally couldn't hold back their vitriol. It's like they disregarded everything that we just learned and kept the same narrative.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I was watching the OSU coverage on ESPN (right after the Urban statement and Zach Smith's interview) and the bias was REAL strong. Sage Steele, Paul Finebaum, etc ... they literally couldn't hold back their vitriol. It's like they disregarded everything that we just learned and kept the same narrative.


ESPN is a joke.I hardly ever watch these clowns. They , and all Media hate successful people.and love to keep things stired up.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg Duty
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I was watching the OSU coverage on ESPN (right after the Urban statement and Zach Smith's interview) and the bias was REAL strong. Sage Steele, Paul Finebaum, etc ... they literally couldn't hold back their vitriol. It's like they disregarded everything that we just learned and kept the same narrative.


ESPN is a joke.I hardly ever watch these clowns. They , and all Media hate successful people.and love to keep things stired up.


Look more hate... who expected that.

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You can’t overstate the emotional significance of these presumed remains of American fighting soldiers coming home 65 years after the Korean War ended.

On the evening newscasts Wednesday night, the ceremony was mentioned on ABC News for 24 seconds, while NBC and CBS did not report on it.

CNN covered the event for only 58 seconds, while MSNBC did not cover it live.

SHAME!

Fox News broadcast the entire event live Wednesday night, including a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

"I spoke to the president shortly after the ceremony, and I told him I'm not sure he's given me a greater honor," said Pence.

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