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Like I said, "up to". That doesn't have anything to do with how many are actually given. Once a week or even two a month are just as possible as two a week considering the way it's stated.

And again, how many rehabs have their patients out training for the NFL every day?

I understand your optimism but the whole "working out in Gainsville every day" doesn't look anything like rehab.

Aggressive exercise is very helpful in combating anxiety. However, why Gainsville? Is his treatment/support facility nearby? Otherwise, this sounds 'odd'...

You hater! I hope you never had kids w/addiction problems! Josh is a victim. And it's guys like you who are responsible for his anxiety!!!!

LOL..............just kidding. Nice take.

I know Josh is the "Golden Child," but this story reeks!!!

Where did rehab come from?


All Gordon has said is that he isn't at camp because, "Rest assured this too is a part of my overall health and treatment plan." and that, "... continuing to follow the plan set up by our medical director and his team and taking this time before the season starts, we believe it will help me maintain the progress I've maintained for not only today but for many years to come."

Rehab implies relapse. Gordon, the Browns, the NFL, the NFLPA and insider journalists have denied any form of relapse or failed test. Short of swishing his [censored] in your mouth, there literally isn't any additional avenue of proof. He's just not in rehab.

Additionally, I'd like to comment on what Vers said earlier. That Gordon's supporters influence his ability to support Gordon. I think it's weird that Vers takes such an adversarial position. He doesn't like you? Well, can't support Gordon then and must assume the worst for Gordon. That's really, really weird. I hope Vers gets the psychological help he clearly needs if he's at a point in which he's unable to form his own opinion without external voices determining when and where he'll allow a Devil's Advocate position to determine his perspective.

From all available evidence, Gordon has done nothing wrong: That should be the only thing that influences our perspective. Fortunately for this team and its fans, the outcome is currently positive.

EDIT - Damn. Come on. Not another accidental censor. Please don't ban me for using the word p1ss. That's not a curse word in Australia. I'm trying really hard to learn what does and does not constitute profanity but it's really hard. It's just another word for urination here. It isn't a "bad word" and it sucks to keep getting banned for accidentally triggering the profanity censorship.

When is Hard Knocks finished filming in Berea?

I questioned/queried this earlier.

Is this something just rattling his cage? Is it a real reason? I would like to know how the decisions are being arrived at, because that might suggest who is in charge of the ongoing recovery "process| here to which he alludes.

Pit was replying to eotab, who has brought up the rehab thing a few times.



Thanks.

This thread needs Xanax its beyond so depressing.

Many of you guys have constantly said this exact same thing for a couple years now. It’s a false narrative. The Browns can’t cut or trade JG until he’s active again.

Vers pretty much covered it but I thought I would as well/ I was actually agreeing with you that I don't see any reasonable way to claim Josh is in rehab. I was actually rebutting eotab who made that claim in his earlier post. To keep up it will be helpful if you look at who a poster is responding to in order to gain context.

I was also making the point that "up to 12 times a month" can also mean "anything less than" 12 times a month in terms of drug testing.

I have no idea what's going on with Josh. I will say since the NFL said they will comment later and his status was changed from non football injury to did not report, that the circumstances are certainly murky at best.

People have come up with their own hypothesis concerning these circumstances yet nothing to back them up by the team.

I was literally just responding to the last post I saw that referenced Gordon being in rehab. I don't mind which side who was on, there isn't any judgement there, I just wondered where specifically the notion of Gordon in rehab came from and outlined why it seems foolish.

I know it's been suggested by the likes of MCK, I just wondered if there was anything of substance behind it. So, I'll re-direct the question to Eotab - where are the "Gordon in rehab" rumours coming from?
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Haha thanks Eotab. It's tricky when you log back on and every thread is a few pages longer than where you left the conversations.

I agree that nothing is off the table in wait-and-see mode, but it's good to see the suggestion didn't arise from any definitive answers.

At this point, I think any negativity surrounding Gordon is negated by the answer to this question: What has Gordon done wrong since his reinstatement?

For now, that answer is "nothing."

Yes you did refer to him being in rehab and yes "anything up to 10 times per month" can mean far less than twice a week.

Quit whining tab.

Tab, I have never tried to make this personal. Although some of your replies seem to. This is a message board. As such people have different opinions. I simply posted my reasoning for why I disagreed with your opinion and gave my opinion.

You mentioned that Josh was being tested twice a week. I simply pointed out that "up to 10 times a month" could mean far less than 10 times a month as well.

You did mention that Josh may be in rehab. That was your opinion. My opinion was simply that I have never seen a rehab facility having players working out on a practice field right after a patient entering rehab.

Those are opposing opinions. It's not an attack on anyone or trying to discredit anyone. They simply differing opinions and I gave my reasoning for my opinions.

I'm getting pretty tired of your incessant need to attack me every time I disagree with you. It's petty and inaccurate. It seems some posters here fell you have card blanche' to act this way whenever you feel like it. I however do not.

I would appreciate if in the future you could comprehend that not everyone is going to agree with your opinions. And that just because I may disagree with your opinion it's not some personal attack on you. That there's no need for you to take it to a personal level or take it as some personal affront. I assure it's not.

But you have the right to act as you see fit. Just kmow I'm not going to take it lying down.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, if Gordon failed a drug test, wouldn't he be suspended again and wouldn't that be announced as it has in the past?

At this stage, with no evidence yet and the league taking their good time to "address" him whenever "appropriate" time, it's just gossip, drama and fairy tale land.

I hate how our fans need to deal with it.

I hate how our coaches have to deal with it.

I hate how our players have to deal with it, being bombarded with questions. JG is a distraction.

How would you know when the Drug test was taken? Results can be obtained pretty quickly so I don't know what the deal would be.

As for distraction, I'd venture a guess (repeat, it's a guess) that every player on that team, every coach and the owners all want Gordan back. We are a better team with him than without him.

I just don't think it's nearly as big a distraction internally as it is externally...

I'm sure they would and or will. But I have seen them wait for long periods of time before announcing such things during the off season. I mean nobody is playing games so there's no reason to rush it. That doesn't mean Josh has failed a test. It means that since the NFL has stated they will make a comment that has yet to be made and when considering his history, I think it's quite natural for fans to question it.

I have confidence in Josh, and I respect that he is doing what he feels is right for him, and I do not think it is a distraction to the team at all - but damn, I wish he'd just return to the team and be part of normal workouts and training camp just to put an end to the drama that is this thread.


Maybe there's some hidden NFL policy that states that each team must have a minimum amount of negative team drama every offseason and we're just below the threshold thus far?

Somehow I don't believe we've ever been under the threshold, including now. lol

That sounded funny at first, Purp. Truth is stranger than fiction. We can't seem to have season without it being about imposed drama. And we usually fan those flames.

Get Josh back clean and ASAP. The NFL is being mysterious and that isn't helping me a jot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl_PgS-Fvly/?hl=en

Gordon might not be in camp, but my goodness look at that man. That's just nuts. (Edit II, LOL said "Not in shape." Yeah, inaccurate haha.)

If my girlfriend ever gets eyes on that man I'm going to be so. damn. single.

EDIT - Sorry, forgot the J/C.

FWIW, I heard Grossi on the radio today saying that as long as there's no signing of a FA WR, it was his opinion that the Browns are expecting Gordon's return. He also said that he thought the book was closed on any signing of Dez Bryant or Pacman Jones, but went on to say that the Browns were still trying to sign CB Bashaud Breeland, and that they were considering WR Brandon Lafell as their Plan B at WR if Gordon is out, because Hue is familiar with Lafell from his Cinci years. (sp)

How would Hue be familiar with LaFell from his Cincy years when LaFell didn't go to Cincy until 2016 which was after Hue became HC of the Browns?

I wouldn't mind signing LaFell at all ... he may want to go to a better team in need of WRs, but we'll see

He (Grossi) must have meant from having played against Cinci and Lafell, or I may have heard it wrong. It was Rizzo and Goldhammer after all, both of whom tend to annoy me, so I may have been only half listening. The point remains that they are at least somewhat familiar with Lafell.

Ok,, they may wait to announce things,, but certainly the team knows right?

That's called Tony Grossi's "spot" reporting.....

God I really dislike that guy.

I think the team really likes this group of receivers, and is willing to wait to see how they do this preseason.

We have Landry, Higgins, and Callaway really making noise in camp, along with Coleman, Ratley, and others who appear to stepping up as well. (and Gordon, if he ever reappears)

This is not 2017 in MANY MANY WAYS dawg ...

Another thing with the recieving corps ... especially Higgins and Coleman ...

Who was their veteran leadership there first two years? ...

The had Hawk year 1 ... anyone else? ...

Britt was it in year two ... not sure hes what u would call a good example ... *L* ...

TODAY ... 2018 ...

We have one Jarvis “I CATCH THE F’NG BALL EVERY F’NG TIME” Landry ...

From everyhthig we’ve heard ... hes a TRUE LEADER ...

[satire] Yes, tab, you have me figured out. I'm out to get you. It's a plot by the left to undermine your integrity. Beware, the Deep State is in full attack mode. Your sensibilities have been shaken and there is no recourse except for you to be rude and nasty in your own self defense.

I believe you may need the C.I.A. for help. As you can see, everyone sees what you see. [/satire]

But you are right that you're not whining. At this juncture it's ballooned into a full fledged tantrum. The one's like you see spoiled three year olds throw in Walmart.

j/c

we've not heard much about jeff janis, who I was happy we signed

Higgins has reportedly been very good, especially with Baker

So: Landry, Coleman, Higgins, Callaway, Ratley ... and hopefully Gordon

Just replying in kind. lmao