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seriously, trump supporters....it doesn't raise your eyebrow at all that the story around this keeps changing?

yall get that, right? the story keeps changing:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-admits-son-apos-182100411.html

Donald Trump has admitted his eldest son’scontroversial 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer was “to get information” on Hillary Clinton – an event Democrats have cited as proof of collusion.

Amid reports the president has confided to friends and advisors he is worried that Donald Trump Jr may foul of Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into alleged collision between the Trump campaign and Russia, the president made perhaps his clearest admission yet that the meeting was to get information on his opponent. Initially, Mr Trump and his son said the meeting was about a Russian adoption programme.

“Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower,” Mr Trump tweeted on Sunday.

“This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics — and it went nowhere.”

The meeting on June 9 2016 involved Mr Trump Jr, Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, Paul Manafort, his then campaign manager, Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Rinat Akhmetshin, a prominent Russian-American lobbyist, Ike Kaveladze, a business associate of a Moscow-based developer known to the Trump family, and a translator, Anatoli Samochornov. Also present was the British man who organised the meetings Rob Goldstone, a music promoter who worked as a publicist for the well connected Russian singer Emin Agalarov.

When news of the meeting was first reported by the New York Times in July 2017, Mr Trump Jr said it was to talk about a stalled Russian adoption programme.

Ms Veselnitskaya has worked on behalf of the Russian government to get the US government to lift the Magnitsky Act sanctions, targeting several people close to Vladimir Putin for their alleged role in the murder of Russian lawyer and whistleblower. The sanctions infuriated Mr Putin and he responded by halting the adoption of Russian babies by Americans.

But Mr Trump Jr later admitted he had agreed to the meeting after being told Ms Veselnitskaya wanted to offer the Trump campaign dirt on Ms Clinton. An email released showing a conversation between Mr Trump Jr and Mr Goldstone, revealed the president’s eldest son, saying: “If it’s what you say, I love it especially later in the summer.”

Mr Trump was asked about the meeting last summer while in France, attending Bastille Day celebrations in Paris with President Emmanuel Macron.


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Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!

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“My son is a wonderful young man. He took a meeting with a Russian lawyer, not a government lawyer, but a Russian lawyer,” he said. “It was a short meeting. It was a meeting that went very, very quickly, very fast.”

He added: “I think from a practical standpoint most people would have taken that meeting. Politics isn’t the nicest business in the world, but it’s very standard.”

Ms Veselnitskaya has always denied having links to the Kremlin or offering information about Ms Clinton.

While many Democrats and experts have suggested the Trump Tower meeting was proof of collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow, the White House and its allies have been working to undermine the credibility of Mr Mueller’s probe. They have also questioned whether collusion itself was a crime.

On Sunday, Mr Trump’s personal lawyer, Jay Sekulow continued to press this point, telling ABC News: “The question is what law, statute or rule or regulation has been violated, and nobody has pointed to one.”

He added: “I don’t represent Don Jr, but I will tell you I have no knowledge at all of Don Jr being told that he’s a target of any investigation, and I have no knowledge of him being interviewed by the special counsel.”

Reuters said legal experts have pointed out several possible criminal charges, including conspiracy against the United States and aiding and abetting a conspiracy.

It added that despite Mr Trump’s public Twitter denial, the president has expressed worry that his son may face legal exposure even as he believes he did nothing wrong, according to three people close to the White House familiar with the president’s thinking.

They, Trumps team, seem to forget what they told us as recently as a year ago.

Oh it was just a discussion on Russian Adoption... Nothing to it.

Now it's, we were trying to gather negative info on Clinton..

I would actually give a flying eff or two about this if the entire GrandBaby-gate meeting on the AZ tarmac was taken seriously...the die for future responsible actions (aka cover ups) by our "leaders" was cast.

Outside influence on our government is bad....corruption and protection from the inside is 10X worse.

No you wouldn’t.

Drip....drip...drip....obviously obstruction of justice. Lying, changing stories. Yeah it’s the FBI that’s corrupt. LOL.

You are correct...and two wrongs dont make it right...but it also doesnt mean that the first wrong becomes irrelevant.

It’s irrelevant here and now in this thread.

The story changing is definitely not good news for Trump. Why even lie to begin with, I'd venture that most presidential candidates are searching for dirt on their opponents. People innocently inquiring for information don't need to change their story.

Trump lies because the GOP enables him to and he knows there’s no consequences.

None of this means anything unless Mueller finds a crime in it, then keeps Trump from pardoning Jr., and convinces congress to remove Trump.

Even if impeached in the house, you still need 2/3s of the senate to touch Trump. This means the GOP would have to seriously break ranks and they just aren't showing the intestinal fortitude to go against the far right base.

When I see farmers being devastated by tariffs saying they will support him even if they lose everything 'for the country', congressmen like Nunes and Jordan attaching their careers to Trump, and a base that just doesn't care what he did to get elected... I'm not seeing impeachment or jail time for him or his family.

He will throw others under the bus, no problem. But Jr. will not do time.

That is a whole lot of events that need to happen, each one making the next more implausible for any of this to stick.

Not without seriously damning evidence and the GOP breaking ranks.

Which is going to make him even more of a brazen ass, finger wagging at democrats saying I told you so. It's beyond predictable.

How hard are the farmers getting hurt???

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/24/631953880...-offset-tariffs

The key difference is the possibility that the dirt is coming from a foreign govt. Federal election laws prohibit taking anything of value from a foreign government trying to influence our elections. It's something we've been worried about since this country was founded. I think the only non-precedent part is whether or not dirt on clinton would consitute "taking anything of value" but I would have a high confidence that kompromat on your political opponent has incredible value. At the very least, I'd like to hear the reasoning for it not to be.

That's a bandaid. Prices are falling on soybeans. They operate on thin margins.

About as hard as it is for Trump enablers to come up with new “whataboutisms”. You not sticking to the subject of the thread is very telling.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2531/soybean-prices-historical-chart-data

$16.50 to $7.80 in 2008....how much crying did you do then (of wait it was Bush's fault...I forgot)

The price of beans has dropped about about $2 since January 2017

Then there is this one...

https://farm.ewg.org/index.php

I know lots of names on that site...most are on there 3-4 times under different variations of the person's name or spouse's name....for Millions EACH...wonder why crop land is so high???? Easy to bid up the price to 5 figures an acre when you are using OPM.

What about those children kidnapped at the border? Where are they? Why haven’t they all been returned to their parents?

Because Trump is permitted to defy court orders with zero consequences.

"when the president does it, that means it is not illegal."

- Richard Nixon

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it"

-- Andrew Jackson

So Jr? What dirt did the Kremlin have on Hillary again? Why wasn’t it used? *snickers* Man you lie about a meeting then what? You want us to believe you got squat from the Russians and didn’t deliver anything in return? You want us to believe you put daddies presidency in jeopardy for squat? Really? Oh man Mueller has these guys by the short ones now. Lol

Times change... The party of Reagan went from hating on Russia to feeling that being Russian is better than being American in certain situations:

bro when different news outlets go around interviewing trump supporters....man oh man lol.

i mean remember, this is the same base that supported the PTOUS when he said roy moore, a pedophile, was still better than electing a democrat.

says everything that needs to be said.

They should load their asses on a ship and send them to live with Putin.

Putin is/was a better leader than Obama ever was. If Trump did collude with Russia to win the White House then someone should thank him because it kept Hillary Clinton out!

Hard to think of a response that wouldn't be offensive.

Truly - Anyone that doesn't know or realise that Putin is a dictator thug who only objective is chaos and disharmony is ignorant at best.

Siding with the enemy of your country over people from your country because you don't like their views .... more so.

My, you are a well trained Trumpian sheep aren't ewe.

Comrade MAGA.

This right here is the definition of anti-American.

Bro, you seriously worried about offending the guy who just made that statement for all the world to see? You don't really need to react at all though, the 'deep state AI' algorithm just tagged him as a traitor in his FBI file so after what's coming around gets around he's going to need to move his hole to Russia.

And in the 2016 post-mortem, they said "talk to the Trump voter."
They said: "Suspend your judgement; hear their views"
"Give them a chance..."

This is what the Deep Deplorables did/do with that chance.
It's why I'll talk to/with some Trump voters/supporters and not others.

A person who makes a statement like that should just go burn an American flag in their front yard and STFU about football players kneeling during the National Anthem. Not one of those players would ever suck Putin's rectal orifice like this one just did. Not one.

This one thinks Putin is preferable to other Americans.
This one would be in Putin's jail (or worse) for doing the same thing in Russia.


The nice thing about America's 1A? It's an unmasking machine.
Give a person freedom of speech that is protected by law, and sooner or later he will reveal his true character through that speech.

And that is when they show us all just exactly who- and what they are.
Look closely, Dawgs. This one walks among us.

Burning American flags and kneeling for national anthems are Democrats special little past times. Calling Democrats or liberals worse than Putin is accurate. Russia is striving toward democracy. Democrats and liberals are on the fast track to socialism/communism.

I'm having a hard time even processing that this conversation is happening...

Some on the right would side with Putin, who has brutalized Russia, killed journalists, and terrorized so many others.. and they call it "striving toward democracy".. while disparaging other American's whose only real goal is to make America better by providing for the poorest and weakest Americans..

Sure, I get that you might disagree with their plans and their methods.. but siding with Putin over them? That's pretty damn pathetic.

Your the only commie sympathizer I see. How dare you label democrats as something less than american. Did you ever serve in the military? Do you have any sense of patriotism? From what I see you are a stooge caught in the propaganda machine!

You hate dems and libs because they EXPOSE who you really are...

I am the real commie sympathizer. That's why I hate Russia.