I just listened to Njoku's presser, and he said immediately after he caught the ball on his 1st TD, all he could hear inside his head was 'finish' in Hue's voice.
Hue has a way with his players. I love it.
hmm i didnt hear that, good quote
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I think my favorite part of Hard Knocks has been the portrayal of how rabid(no pun intended) our fans are.
I liked at the beginning how Mayfield was talking about the fans chanting his name , and he said "theres no way they they can keep that up the whole time", and someone said " watch"
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
I watched it again last night with my friend. One thing I didn't fully notice the first time: the scene in the coaches' meeting is heavily edited. You almost can't even tell the order in which things are spoken. They cut and pieced things together, and if you watch closely it's like you can't tell what they left out (if anything).
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
The Browns … Per Pro Football Talk, Todd Haley looks into the “Hard Knocks” cameras and says, “It’s not my idea to keep Baker Mayfield on the bench.” If the Browns indeed allow that into the show—and the team does have veto power on the footage from the week shown in each episode—then it says two things: One, Hue Jackson’s going to have an issue with Haley at some point this season, probably soon; and two, the show is real.
Context is everything, but if the tone/intent is what we all immediately think of when reading this, it could be a problem on many different levels, first-off--Haley going the insubordindation route.
Not a good look.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Good morning. My Monday column is up. — Removing a note about a Todd Haley quote from Hard Knocks Tuesday. The quote never happened. That’s my error. My apologies.
Good morning. My Monday column is up. — Removing a note about a Todd Haley quote from Hard Knocks Tuesday. The quote never happened. That’s my error. My apologies.
@peter_king 19m19 minutes ago More Peter King Retweeted NAES Yeah, well, that’s my fault. It was used the other day @ProFootballTalk as a joke, and I’m the only one who didn’t get the joke.
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I was gonna say, if THAT quote is in Hard Knocks then we are screwed
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I was gonna say, if THAT quote is in Hard Knocks then we are screwed
Haley is entitled to have an opinion. If the quote happened, fans would make a big deal out of it, but the team won't.
no doubt he can, and all coaches should have an opinion ... but the media would run with that
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Hard Knocks is just turning into fuel to the ole "Browns are dysfunctional" fire. We knew it would. If a coach blinks out of order, it seems like there's going to be "see, look at the dysfunction going on there" and so on.
Welp they disagreed on jersey color, better call it another 0-16 season because of it. I hate the media when they acknowledge us.
Hard Knocks is just turning into fuel to the ole "Browns are dysfunctional" fire. We knew it would. If a coach blinks out of order, it seems like there's going to be "see, look at the dysfunction going on there" and so on.
Welp they disagreed on jersey color, better call it another 0-16 season because of it. I hate the media when they acknowledge us.
It's why every year Hard Knocks is forced upon some unwilling team. No one wants to have Hard Knocks.
Hard Knocks is just turning into fuel to the ole "Browns are dysfunctional" fire. We knew it would. If a coach blinks out of order, it seems like there's going to be "see, look at the dysfunction going on there" and so on.
Welp they disagreed on jersey color, better call it another 0-16 season because of it. I hate the media when they acknowledge us.
It's why every year Hard Knocks is forced upon some unwilling team. No one wants to have Hard Knocks.
Makes you wonder how much HBO pays the league, doesn't it?
Face it - follow the money. It leads you exactly where you need to go.
Game times for the nfl, or mlb? They want to shorten the time it takes to play a game. What's the answer? Rule tweaks to save 5 seconds here and there.
Shorten the advertisements? Never an option. Follow the money.
Good morning. My Monday column is up. — Removing a note about a Todd Haley quote from Hard Knocks Tuesday. The quote never happened. That’s my error. My apologies.
Peter King Retweeted NAES Yeah, well, that’s my fault. It was used the other day @ProFootballTalk as a joke, and I’m the only one who didn’t get the joke.
Yes, this is the comment I was referring to when I said I thought King is telling the truth here.
I believe him because I just don't think Haley would say such a thing. I think he gets angry and emotional. I think he combative. But, I don't think he is a snake.
Yeah I couldnt see a coach being that forward about an opinion knowing that the cameras are rolling (if it were private, then that's one thing).
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I know some posters want more controversy surrounding Hue, but has anyone else considered that King is telling the truth?
I think Haley is a hot-headed, abrasive jerk. But, I don't think he would undermine his HC intentionally. I don't believe he said it.
That doesn't mean I'm right, but I think I have a valid point.
I agree.
It wasn't all that long ago Haley was quoted as saying Baker wasn't ready.
I don't see how 1 pre-season game now has him ready. Maybe ready to take a few snaps with the ones, just to see how it goes, but TT should be under center for the opener. If baker keeps improving, he will take over at some point this year.
The only way I will be upset with Hue is if Taylor struggles and Baker never gets in. I will be upset if we are out of the playoff picture and it is week 13-14 and Baker never gets in....at some point we need to transition.
If we are in the hunt,TT all the way and baker will be to be on the back burner until next year. Then you can go in to camp with a competition on your hands.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I don't think means anything because coaches having disagreements all the time, but Todd Haley wanted to kill Hue Jackson.
Question: Was the video of Hue saying that and Todd's reaction contiguous, or was there a cut in the video with voiceover?
If it wasn't contiguous, there is a better than even chance that you're being fed creative editing (it makes for better TV) and the two events - the words spoken and the look on Haley's face - may not have even happened in the same meeting.
I question editing as well.. Not to mention, Hue was sitting at the head of the table, Haley looks like he is looking at someone sitting along the wall.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
“This is kinda fun, I’ll be honest.” Rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield takes to the field for his NFL debut versus the New York Giants. Watch Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Cleveland Browns Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET/PT on HBO.
On the next Hard Knocks, Corey Coleman gets traded, Myles Garrett looks to improve upon last season and Baker Mayfield hopes to shine in preseason. Watch Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Cleveland Browns Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET/PT on HBO.
interested to see Coleman's trade and Callaway's news
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Here’s what Hue Jackson says to Browns’ rookie WR Antonio Callaway, who was cited Aug. 5 for marijuana possession, on HBO’s Hard Knocks tonight at 10 p.m. “I believe you. But If I am wrong on this one, then I am gonna have your a - -.”
Here’s what Hue Jackson says to Browns’ rookie WR Antonio Callaway, who was cited Aug. 5 for marijuana possession, on HBO’s Hard Knocks tonight at 10 p.m. “I believe you. But If I am wrong on this one, then I am gonna have your a - -.”
Here’s what Hue Jackson says to Browns’ rookie WR Antonio Callaway, who was cited Aug. 5 for marijuana possession, on HBO’s Hard Knocks tonight at 10 p.m. “I believe you. But If I am wrong on this one, then I am gonna have your a - -.”
me too ... it might tel a lot about Hue to be honest. we've never seen that side of him
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I don't think means anything because coaches having disagreements all the time, but Todd Haley wanted to kill Hue Jackson.
Question: Was the video of Hue saying that and Todd's reaction contiguous, or was there a cut in the video with voiceover?
If it wasn't contiguous, there is a better than even chance that you're being fed creative editing (it makes for better TV) and the two events - the words spoken and the look on Haley's face - may not have even happened in the same meeting.
I question editing as well.. Not to mention, Hue was sitting at the head of the table, Haley looks like he is looking at someone sitting along the wall.
He was looking at Greg Williams who was sitting on his right.
I will say this....I have head a few comments out of Hue that rub be the wrong way. The one in question is one, another I read maybe today about Williams and Haley getting to to a verbal over a QB hit and Hue saying something about he is the only one who brings the fire. Another was several weeks ago....he was talking about him being the CEO now, he can pull it all together.
Sorry, Hue clearly doesn't have a clue. I am not bashing him. If anything, I feel sorry for the guy. When Hue, Williams and Haley are in the room, Hue is the clear assistant coach in the room . A leader doesn't have to keep stating that he or she is the leader.
JMO
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
episode opens up with corey coleman getting busted in practice.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Soooo, last week I was able to watch with HBO Now, I signed up for a free game 30day trial. When open the app, it says “stream new hard knocks episode tonight”, then it only gives me last weeks episode to watch.
I think you can watch it after it has played on HBO. It's kind of a stupid setup.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
man i love our team being on hard knocks. i know some dont like it, but man im glad we get to see this team from a different perspective.
gregg williams with his classic rant, good to see.
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