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That little guy rolling on the floor, laughing, wasn't enough of a tip for you?

This is from a longer article:



Is there no boundaries at all? No shame? No decency? I do not like Trump, but man, that is beyond sickening.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in purchasing.

What are you talking about now? Are you saying she never made those comments? That's odd, because it seems like you always back Trump and degrade others. Are you actually defending her by saying she never made those comments?

excuse me? have you HEARD the disgusting crap that trump has said about his own daughter, straight from the horses mouth?

what omarosa said is completely TAME compared to what trump has said about his own daughter, and it aint close.

I figured you would make that argument.

Excuse me, I need to go shower.

translation: once again my "both sides" rhetoric failed and i have nothing to counter with.

No. Translation is that family members should not be brought into the scum. And those that support such tactics only add to the scum.

Now, I am going to leave this thread because you are seriously making me sick. Translate that however you want.

wait wait wait wait wait.

Ivanka trump was out here acting as a de facto secretary of state. she has gone around the world acting like she represents the US government. she has made public political statements, and she worked unofficially for the WH early in Trump's presidency.

how in gods name is she somehow off limits? thats the problem with you: you're so hellbent on being in the middle, so hellbent on playing "both sides", that all that happened was you being blind to the world around you.

translation: you dont know what you're talking about.

Your hints are to subtle!

In that case, fetch me Hamma!

She should not be off limits from a political perspective because Trump allowed her to insert herself into the process and she has been very active and vocal.. and she's an adult.

I have no problem with anybody questioning her role or her ability in this administration..

I do, however, think that Omarosa making accusations about the way her dad hugs her is going too far. It has nothing to do with his (or her) politics.. and let's be honest, Omarosa is strongly implying that there is a lot more that we don't know.. like potentially incest stuff.. and without proof, you don't go there.. you don't imply that. So in the same sense that she thinks there relationship crosses the line of what is "normal" father/daughter behavior, I also think her comments cross the line..

i don't think her comments crosses the line.

because we have no line anymore. maybe im the only one on the board who has noticed. we dont have a line anymore.

why?

because when trump said this:



and then became president, that line might as well have got sucked into a black hole, never to be seen again.

"perhaps id be dating her"

"she has a hot body"

and on and on and on. but somehow, omarosa's comments are crossing a line?

we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. because trump has made it perfectly clear he would smash his own daughter if the public wouldn't care.

let me say that again. trump has made it perfectly clear he would smash his own daughter if nobody gave a damn.

so again, what line? apparently that line wasn't visible enough to stop him from getting elected, so why should i care now?

j/c


‘People are terrified’: Trump staffers live in fear of Omarosa’s next tape

A daily trickle of revealing internal conversations between staffers. Growing anxiety about what one might have once said. No sense of how long it will go on.

Omarosa Manigault Newman’s slow release of secretly taped conversations from inside the Trump campaign and White House is having the same effect on staffers as the daily dumps from WikiLeaks had on Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, when chairman John Podesta’s emails were trickled out during the final stretch of the race.

“People are terrified,” one former Trump aide said of the tapes. “Absolutely terrified.”

On Tuesday, the fifth day of her one-woman news cycle, Manigault Newman released a taped conversation from the 2016 campaign, in which former spokeswoman Katrina Pierson and another African-American Trump adviser, Lynne Patton, discussed the possible existence of an N-word tape.

“He’s said it,” Pierson says on the recording. “He’s embarrassed.”

The latest reveal indicates that Manigault Newman isn’t just trying to discredit President Donald Trump, who is the subject of her book, “Unhinged.” In her crusade for publicity and payback, she’s willing to embarrass and expose her former colleagues along the way.

The result is the same type of psychological warfare that gripped the Clinton campaign two years ago with staffers — and anyone tangentially in their orbit — waking up every morning bracing themselves for what potentially embarrassing missive might be made public, and waiting for the onslaught to end.

Like the WikiLeaks dump — which severely damaged the Clinton campaign by taking it off message, but never produced a smoking gun — Manigault Newman's tapes, according to someone who has listened to them, are juicy to listen to but ultimately don't contain any bombshell about the president or his family.

Former senior staffers also said they felt safer because Manigault Newman was not included in small, high-level meetings. And they doubted that she taped the one broader senior staff meeting that she attended, which included about 25 people.

“But if I was on the communications staff, where she was interacting more with people,” said another former senior administration official, “I can see how people might be nervous.”

There are, of course, many differences between Manigault Newman’s tapes and the WikiLeaks emails. Where the Clinton campaign was targeted by a shadowy outside force trying to disrupt the election, Trump’s hacker is a known knife fighter he willingly brought into the house because, as he tweeted earlier this week, she said flattering things about him.

While WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange dumped thousands of pages of documents for the public to make sense of, Manigault Newman — who in an MSNBC interview on Tuesday called herself a whistleblower — is dribbling out bits and pieces in building her case against Trump, cherry-picking the evidence to bolster her own argument and not delivering a full picture. In the world of whistleblowers, Manigault Newman is just playing a few notes on a flute.

While White House staffers have nothing but their own recollections to count on as they brace for a next tape, the Clinton campaign had the ability to know what could, potentially, come out.

“We had John’s emails,” recalled Jennifer Palmieri, who served as communications director on Clinton’s 2016 campaign. “We were worried they would start making stuff up. But we had something to work from. We had the ability to figure out what the universe might be.”

Palmieri said another plus was the more sober characters that populated her campaign.

“Nobody had to be worried that there was an email where Hillary used the N-word,” she said. “And John doesn’t say crazy stuff. But for other people on the campaign, especially younger people, it was really upsetting because every staffer’s greatest fear is that they do something that becomes a problem for their candidate.”

There were, however, embarrassing moments for longtime Clinton aides in the WikiLeaks dump. Longtime Clinton adviser Neera Tanden groused in one email about the boss that “her instincts are suboptimal” and said of New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, “I find him a bit insufferable.”

While the email hack left donors with bruised egos, and some friendships slightly frayed, other Clinton loyalists said there is a stark difference between a foreign adversary stealing personal emails and a colleague leaking dialogue from meetings.

"Unless Omarosa is a Russian plant," said Tanden, "these are night and day."

That's also true of how the two situations are being handled.

In Clinton world, Palmieri started every day with a readout on what had come across the Wikileaks transom that morning. In this case, the White House strategy so far — with the exception of the president — has been to try and ignore Manigault Newman and her tapes.

“I think it would be great if every single person in this room and this administration never had to talk about this again,” press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at the press briefing Tuesday afternoon, studiously avoiding referring to Manigault Newman by name. When pressed on whether she wanted the president to stop tweeting about his former staffer, she added, “I think it’s better for all of us to walk away.”

Despite the administration’s attempts to pivot away from the topic, the fear about the tapes is still hanging over people inside and outside the administration.

One former Trump adviser said he already assumed every conversation he was having in the White House was being recorded in some fashion, and went so far as to purchase a Faraday box, which blocks electromagnetic fields, to store his government phone.

The only people breathing easy this week are those who had little to do with Manigault Newman at all. “Luckily I spoke to her approximately four times ever,” said another former White House official.

dis be tha linque


What a toxic place to work.
In almost every middle-class neighborhood, there is that one house... where you can randomly hear the sounds of things breaking. Where the cop cars show up at 11:45 PM. Where the kids look haunted as they leave for school. Where you just know that some skeevy, dysfunctional stuff is going on behind closed doors.

When the new tenants moved into 1600 Penn, the White House became that one house. The previous tenants? Pretty nice and well-adjusted, compared to the present bunch. I miss the sanity. The decency. The peace and quiet. It used to be such a nice neighborhood... until those people moved in.

You are trying to apply rules and lines of demarcation to a pile of sand in a windstorm... There are no rules, there are no more lines to cross, as they disappear as quickly as they are set.

Trump is his own enigma... he abides by chaos theory. Rules of expected behavior do not apply to him, and the sooner that we stop commenting on them the better off we will be.. We can spend our life explaining (to us or him) how he is different, and it the functional equivalent of talking to a wall. It just does not matter and his behavior will not change.

So you have to sit back and count the days until the midterms and next election..

I have a line.... and it has nothing to do with what Trump says or does. I refuse to let my line shift or move to a lower level of civility or depravity because of somebody else.

Many of you disgust me. There are no rules? He did it, so we should do it?

Nope. I'll never go there.

I hold myself to a higher standard. I try and treat people fairly. Family members are out of bounds. Trying to get people to believe there is an incestuous relationship going on is beyond sickening.

Some folks want to win the political debate so badly that they will tolerate anything. I wonder what you would say if someone attacked your family?

save it with the high and mighty BS. stop acting like we're the ones who said those comments.

I didnt say those things about my daughter. i didn't have a business relationship with omarosa on a reality tv show. i didn't hire her.

that was a trump ally saying the things that were ALREADY being speculated about due to Trumps OWN comments.

how fake of you to sit there and act like any of this is somehow new information. how fake of you to sit there and have the audacity to come at me, but you're so hilariously soft to anything the actual POTUS is saying.

where's your outrage over the fact that trump wants to bang his own daughter?

nowhere to be found, thats where. but somehow thats not crossing the line? i thought we were anti-PC around here. i thought we were all about free speech.

where's your outrage over the fact that Trump called a woman a dog?

i swear to god youre one of the fakest people on this board. you keep claiming your gonna stop posting toward me all these years, i cant wait for the day you finally keep your word.

I think you miss my point. For most people they hold themselves to a standard of behavior. I try my best but I am not perfect.

Trump has no such standard. We can speculate about his privileged upbringing and boarding schools, but I would have been pummeled by my family if I said 10 percent of the trash that comes out of his mouth.

Most Americans are taught how to behave. Trump is unbridled and at 72 unlikely to be broken..

Let me say it this way, Trump is what we get when the very wealthy are not raised by invested parents who care about their children.

I get what you're saying. I also get why you feel as you do. I'm going to come at this from a different angle, and see if you might tolerate a slightly different opinion.

I think it's entirely possible to follow the 'family is off-limits' rule, and still have opinions/observations about Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner. Here's how that would look in Clemmytown:

FLOTUS? Mostly off-limits, except when she's officially reppin' 1600. Then, opinions are fair. (The green jacket with the graffiti was a bad look; folks should be able to weigh in).

Barron? Tiffany? Others not directly involved in Daddy T's day-to-day? TOTALLY off-limits. These same rules I held in place for 44's family, too. Sasha & Malia were 100% no-go zones. Michelle was open for judgement whenever she was out and about as FLOTUS.

Now, Ivanka would be afforded the same courtesy I extend to Tiffany, Baron, and others of the trump family if she played the same role as they. She does not occupy that role. She is a functioning member of POTUS' inner circle. The things she says and does have a direct affect on public policy as much as if she had an official post in his cabinet. Same with Son In-Law (and newest installation at Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum) Jared Kushner.

They'd both be off-limits if they weren't directly working for Daddy and sitting in on high-level meetings. They made a different choice. Because of that, they are receiving different treatment.

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Now.... as for Omorosa's observations/suggestions/innuendos: tacky as the day is long, just like all reality tv fodder. I stopped rising to that type of salacious bait when I was in my early 20's; it quickly became boring as I was exiting puberty. I'll not be buying her rag, I'll not be seeking out her revelations, and I'll not care when she finally fades into obscurity.

I hate that tackiness, lousy character and vulgarity have become the face of my executive administration. People seek their own kind, and we're finding out with people like Cohen, Gates, Manafort, Papadopulos, Miller, et al that for a span of 4 years, 1600 Penn will simply be a roach motel. One can only hope that:

1. Mueller is secretly The Orkin Man, a-come to fumigate the place soon.
2. The American Public will tire of this foolishness and make them all a one-term infestation.

.02

"I moved on her like a ___"

"And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything—grab them by the ---. You can do anything"

omarosa aint say that. but apparently that line didn't matter when he got elected.

but im the one in the wrong. ok.

I was once told this.... I think it applies and explains my disdain for the reality TV president.

The highest level of people talk ideas and concepts to challenge thought.
The more common people discuss things such as sports weather and events.
Those below that talk about other people.

We all absolutely have the right to comment on Omarosa's vengeful book and the things contained it it. Rather you believe her or not, the tapes lend some credence.

As for what she says about Trump and Ivanka, anyone who has watched Trump on the subject is already as shocked as anyone can be. So condemning people who repost what Omarosa has said is just blatantly ostrich-like. They old saying "you made your bed, now lie in it" applies to Trump too, as the chickens come home to roost.

That was Eleanor Roosevelt.

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

It's one of the lines that have helped to define my world/personal outlook. That woman was one of the 20th c's most relevant philosophers and commentators on The Human Condition.

* "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
* "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
* "In the long run, we shape our lives, and we shape ourselves. The process never ends until we die. And the choices we make are ultimately our own responsibility."
* Probably the happiest period in life most frequently is in middle age, when the eager passions of youth are cooled, and the infirmities of age not yet begun; as we see that the shadows, which are at morning and evening so large, almost entirely disappear at midday."



If I could have met her at a party, I'd have moved heaven and earth to find a quiet, private spot to spend some quality time with her. Super serious about that. A person who is capable of quotes like these is capable of some choice conversation.


The only reason that Eleanor Roosevelt wouldn't intellectually have Dolt45© for lunch:
she's also smart enough to not introduce lead paint into her diet.

Question??? Did Sormy die??? I did not see an obit?? Or did the glue in her spit wad that she as being thrown dry out and quit sticking??? The new trump news trend is all Omarosa all the time (at least for a week or two).

I not only don't get anything back, my taxes are going UP

And now dolt is suing Omarosa and says she signed a NDA.
Even his attorney said that the NDA was not enforceable and the staffers should sign to appease trump.


Just guaranteed that book will be on the best seller list

Wow what a revelation. Reducing your withholding to increase your take home pay. Nothing new to this. BTW this will reduce your refund so be careful. I'm keeping my exemptions at 0 because I know I'll probably owe taxes for the first time in years on my 2018 taxes.

LOL those agreements are unconstitutional. Tough luck for Trumpsters. You just met your worse nightmare. A Sista with whistle and a recorder.

You can request additional withholding if you are worried about it.

Yes I’m doing that this year until I know the damages.

I agree with everything you said. I thought it was horrific when the right was going at O's kids for when the one girl was caught smoking weed (or allegedly smoking it, etc). He is a father, and that should be left to him to address, not some commentator on the news, or poster on the board.

As far as Ivanka, she is fair game as she is part of the admin, HOWEVER, she should only be fair game when it comes to policy and admin stuff. This is/was not. A lot of the attacks on her are justifiable, but ALOT are not. Same as Melania. I don't care what color shoes she has on, or if she wore heels onto a plane. I also think its disgusting to berate her accent when she was actually trying to do something for kids with her campaign.

So as I agree with you they are fair game, I still think its rather easily to dictate when they are and when they should not be. And the same went with Michelle when she was FLOTUS, criticize her lunch program, but criticizing her arms or attire, classless.

Yeah she told us that weeks ago as well.

If having standards for myself that don't go up and down based on the actions of others makes me high and mighty, then I will have to live with that.


Trump has said some things about his daughter that I find totally inappropriate... whether what you are saying is true or not, I have no idea.


Now who's all high and mighty? I have not made any attempt to stifle your free speech or hers.. I just offered my opinion on how I feel about it. You can say whatever you want.


Trump is morally bankrupt, has almost zero positive character qualities, and is just generally a petulant little weazel.. I've made my feelings on that pretty clear.

I've also made my feelings clear that I have no intention of chasing his every comment and tweet down the rabbit hole and following the bread crumb trail of distractions he wants us all to follow while he does whatever he wants as President.

So if your standard is that I have to show public outrage over every stupid thing that comes out of his mouth or across his phone, then you will be disappointed. My opinions on his character are pretty set and one more stupid derogatory tweet isn't going to change it.


Shame, we were having such a good conversation the last couple evenings.

Peace.

I do agree with you. I mean Trumps comments about his own daughter did open the door for such comments, but not every door was meant to walk through. While I don't agree with Ivanka about everything, she has publicly disagreed with her dad about some things. I don't feel making her the brunt of any of this is right.

When it comes to Omarosa, I think she's an absolute crap show, attention seeker trying to sell books. But Dr. Trump is the one who helped create Trumpenstein. And now Trumpenstein has come back to haunt him. He created the monster.

The difference here is she does have some evidence to back up at least some of the things she says. Not nearly all thus far, but some.

It is obvious from the tape that Kelly threatened to attack her credibility if she didn't go quietly. But that's the M.O. for this White House any time anyone speaks out against them. And true to form they have.

The second tape has proven that Trump either lied or he isn't calling the shots in the White house. He claimed he had no idea she was even fired. So he either lied or doesn't have a clue what's going on around him. Pick your poison there. lol

The third tape made it obvious the White House is concerned about a tape where Trump said the N-word in a conversation that the White House aid denied ever happened.



So it does appear that the "culture of lying" has some merit to it. It appears to this point there's some validity to at least some of the things she has said. But unless she has it on tape, I won't believe a word she says. I don't trust her anymore than the person she makes these claims about.

Anyone that believes anything Omarosa or Trump says have simply decided to believe the liar that pushes their own beliefs. Because neither of them are trustworthy.

i guess its too late to say that my post was suppose to be directed at vers, not you, but whatever. i guess that shouldve been clear as you never claimed to put me on ignore and stop talking to me, vers does it all the time.

i apologize for not clicking on the right person, but i dont apologize for what i said or how i felt.

if it doesnt apply, sorry, if it does, not sorry.

It's never too late. You've said worse things than that TO me.. I'm not going to bail when you meant to say it to somebody else..

CNN's April Ryan slams Omarosa: 'She stabbed in the back, the neck, the eyeballs'

Audio on Link



CNN’s April Ryan said Omarosa Manigault Newman stabbed her in the back and attempted to end her career when their once-friendly relationship soured.

“It was really ugly. It was so ugly,” Ryan said during an appearance on SiriusXM’s “Karen Hunter Show” on Tuesday.

Manigault Newman has been on a media blitz in support of her new book, “Unhinged,” and she has played various secret recordings of Trump and his staffers that she said were collected during her time working in the White House.

Ryan was on “The Karen Hunter Show” to promote her own book, when was asked asked if there's a section on Manigault Newman -- whom she considered a friend before the former Trump aide turned on her.


"I talk about her taping me. I warned everybody. I talk about her taping me. We had that fight between the Oval Office and the press office,” Ryan said. “It probably stemmed from the fact that she was very upset with me because I ...wouldn't be in her wedding and people were telling me she was very upset that I chose not to be in her wedding.”

The CNN contributor said that in addition to the wedding party beef, Manigault Newman turned on her in order to help Trump go after the media.

“She stabbed in the back, the neck, the eyeballs and in the front. She tried to cut my head off and put it on a platter and serve it up to Donald Trump,” Ryan told Hunter.

The feud between Ryan and Manigault Newman goes back to at least February of last year, when The Washington Post published a story headlined, “‘This is . . . Nixonian’: Reporter was taped by White House in heated exchange”. The Post’s Paul Farhi wrote that Ryan then claimed Manigault Newman said the CNN political analyst “was among a handful of journalists on whom the White House was keeping ‘dossiers’ of negative information.”

At the time, Manigault Newman called Ryan a “liar” and admitted to having a tape, while Ryan said she was considering legal action regarding the recording.

Ryan -- she's White House correspondent for American Urban Radio Networks, in addition to her gig at CNN -- then told the SiriusXM host that Manigault Newman attempted to spread lies about her relationship to Hillary Clinton.

“I was very upset about that and we'll take care of what she said and the lies that she was spreading that is career-ending and I was doing this for about 20 years, when she did this,” Ryan said. “She said I was taking money from Hillary Clinton. I said, ‘Are you kidding me?’”

The Post also reported that Manigault Newman sent Ryan a note citing an unnamed story that tied her to Clinton.

“This story suggests that as a reporter, you are (or were) a paid Clinton surrogate. I pray this is not true! This could be hurtful to your legacy and the integrity of your work,” Manigault Newman reportedly wrote to Ryan at the time.

Ryan told the radio host that Manigault Newman wanted to “kill” her career, and that the truth could be easily proven.

“Now, here I am, a divorced single mother of two girls who works hard, and it's not just about taking food off my table. You are hurting my children. I'm a fierce mama bear. She lied on me,” Ryan said.

Ryan also claimed that Manigault Newman urged Trump's former press secretary, Sean Spicer, not to call on her during White House briefings.

Manigault Newman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Hey it's Vambo! Hey everyone, Vambo is here!

Vers, Clem, and pretty much everyone else. This is well said.