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Randall didnt play. Apparently he had a tight knee and they didnt want to risk him.
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The play calling from the ONE yard line was ATROCIOUS ... we were probably trying to work on throwing it, but YIKES I am going to warn you, get used to play calling like this. My friends that follow the Steelers were CONSTANTLY complaining about Haley when he would get in the redzone. he had Lev bell and would throw the ball 3 straight times. I am a haley fan don't get me wrong, but he tends to try to get "cute".
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Both teams were missing key pieces on O, so I don't think we can put too much weight on this game.
It was nice to see us get some takeaways.
The bottom half of our WR depth wasn't cutting it. Ratley was looking pretty raw-he got a lot of time early and looked like he needed more of it. Without a deep threat, there wasn't much room to operate. Hopefully we'll be able to take advantage of teams daring us to beat them deep when our guys are back. I have some small doubts with TT, though. Time will tell.
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I was telling my friends at the bar that I have always wanted to win a game 5- 0. Hats off to the D for making that stand up!
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game ball to Garrett. He was legit last night. Our coordinators really got this one overall. I expect the offense to lag, but it absolutely stunk a few times. Ratchet that up as a priority.
This year, it occurred to me during the game, that those who need to be cut are less easy to find this year IMO. We saw more viable players last night than we have put out there in the last two years maybe. Game ball to Dorsey and all those who stepped it up.
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Still, I don't think he should have gone back in. We all know he is the Week 1 starter and I would rather have him healthy than risking him hurting his wrist even more. Did you see him handing off the ball? It looked like he was using two hands to do it.
I would have just kept him out and played it safe. Yes, that was an awful decision. Hue showing why 1-31 occurred. I was hoping he "outgrew" that. Time will tell.
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Randall didnt play. Apparently he had a tight knee and they didnt want to risk him. But excellent call risking our starting quarterback!
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The play calling from the ONE yard line was ATROCIOUS ... we were probably trying to work on throwing it, but YIKES I am going to warn you, get used to play calling like this. My friends that follow the Steelers were CONSTANTLY complaining about Haley when he would get in the redzone. he had Lev bell and would throw the ball 3 straight times. I am a haley fan don't get me wrong, but he tends to try to get "cute". If this was an actual game, I'd be more upset. But Hue needs to step in here and tell Haley to run the damn ball. Ugh. Pre-season.
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Steeler fans never liked Todd H. Nor do they still like him anymore. His pass ratio on goal line stances went from 12 to 25% simply because he said so. . . .
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The play calling from the ONE yard line was ATROCIOUS ... we were probably trying to work on throwing it, but YIKES I am going to warn you, get used to play calling like this. My friends that follow the Steelers were CONSTANTLY complaining about Haley when he would get in the redzone. he had Lev bell and would throw the ball 3 straight times. I am a haley fan don't get me wrong, but he tends to try to get "cute". If this was an actual game, I'd be more upset. But Hue needs to step in here and tell Haley to run the damn ball. Ugh. Pre-season. A lot of the complaining they would do, I saw last night. I received a few text from them saying "haley will throw the ball 3 times on the 1 or throw a streak on 4-1, then on 2nd and 17 run the ball. we saw this last night.
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My Post game thoughts? D will be our strength Baker Mayfield has a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before he is even close to a viable NFL QB. Here is every Baker Mayfield throw from last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNcPG9NoYsHere is every Deshone Kizer throw from Week one last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Xx8Oa5nYcDeshone Kizer was farther along at this point then Baker Mayfield is, and Kizer was only 21. Kizer has: Better footwork Bigger Stronger Arm Much better velocity on his throws Better Ball placement the ONLY thing Kizer struggled with was reading coverages, and that will come simply with time and good coaching(which he didn't get here)Kizer was unfairly blamed for our poor record last year,when in reality poor play calling, lack of a running game, injuries, and a porus defense are every bit as much to blame. It was bittersweet watching Kizer throw 2 TD's against the Steelers last week. you can see Kizer has improved greatly, and thats what happens when you get proper coaching like he is getting in Green Bay, which he never got here. I'd take Kizer over Mayfield anyday if I was picking them out of the draft...Kizer is bigger, stronger, just as mobile, much better arm, the only things Kizer lacked last year was experience. Mayfield lacks a lot of things, the most prominent ones being height and lack of athletic ability. Kizer made chucking the rock downfield look effortless because he has a canon for an arm, Baker looks like he has to use everything he has just to get the ball 15 yards downfield. Again, I think Baker will have a 50/50 shot of working out, ONLY IF we give him a year to a year and a half to sit...because he doesn't have the natural athleitc ability or big arm to overcome his mistakes this early on. We should have kept Kizer, a year and program under Haley would have bore us wonderful fruit this year, but Browns fans just have no patience to develop anyone...Green Bay will develop him though...evne McCarthy said Kizer is every bit as good and talented as the guys coming out of the 1st round this year, the Packers fleeced us on that trade, no two ways about it...Kizer should still be on this roster right now as Taylor's backup, and a future starter...Kizer was a sitting year away from probably being answer...was a lot to work with Kizer when compared to Mayfield athletically, Kizer is a smart kid, you can see in Green Bay the game is slowing down for him and he is learning how to read coverages, sky's the limit for that young man...what a shame...he coulda done that here for us...
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Randall was a game time scratch.
Baker is missing pre-snap reads and he doesn't trust his reads you can see it. He doesn't want to let it go until he can see it, he needs to trust his receivers, not his eyes.
There isn't a deep position on the field other than LB.
Greg Robinsons feet are horrendous, it was very obvious if he starts we are in big trouble.
Troy Aikmans praise on Mayfeild was surprising to me, he likes him a lot.
Shon Coleman and Greg Robinson are the same player.
Without Baker to mentor....does Stanton even make this team? Terrible.
I saw Landry give up on a deep throw, I was pretty annoyed.
Fletcher Cox and Myles Garret are amazing.
I think Nassib makes the team and Orchard is the guy outside looking in.
Avery proving me wrong, playing with the first team and getting a strip sack.
The list of inactives on offense has to be frustrating for Haley. Zeitler, Calloway, Gordon and Devalve all sitting....
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I just want to make it clear, I am not a Baker Mayfield hater, I want the kid to do well, hell I just want to win I don't care who does the winning as long as its a Brown.
I just don't see the hype with Mayfield...I see a short, puddgy guy with a very average NFL arm, I just don't see top talent, let alone #1 overall pick talent in Mayfield.
As much as I was against taking a QB at #1(I still hold we should have taken BPA Saquon Barkley, and took a Qb at 4), if we were hell bent on taking a QB at # 1, and you put a gun to my head and forced me to pick someone, I would have taken Josh Rosen.
Josh Rosen will probably be the best Qb prospect to come out of UCLA since Aikman in 89. The injury history with rosen scares me, but he was probably the safest pick to take if you wanted a QB...He is a big guy at 6'4 with a huge arm that is a pure pocket passer, nothing cute.
Mayfield was probably the riskiest pick we have ever taken, not many Heisman winning QB have done well in the pros. I hope im proven wrong, I really do, but Mayfield looks like a bust so far....average arm, average athletic ability....i'd rather have Kizer then him just because Kizer has more god given talent, bigger guy, stronger arm, bigger frame, etc.
I guess we will see, i'll continue to pull for Baker until then, but im concerned...if we have to use him, were probably going to be in trouble.
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I just want to make it clear, I am not a Baker Mayfield hater, I want the kid to do well, hell I just want to win I don't care who does the winning as long as its a Brown.
I just don't see the hype with Mayfield...I see a short, puddgy guy with a very average NFL arm, I just don't see top talent, let alone #1 overall pick talent in Mayfield.
As much as I was against taking a QB at #1(I still hold we should have taken BPA Saquon Barkley, and took a Qb at 4), if we were hell bent on taking a QB at # 1, and you put a gun to my head and forced me to pick someone, I would have taken Josh Rosen.
Josh Rosen will probably be the best Qb prospect to come out of UCLA since Aikman in 89. The injury history with rosen scares me, but he was probably the safest pick to take if you wanted a QB...He is a big guy at 6'4 with a huge arm that is a pure pocket passer, nothing cute.
Mayfield was probably the riskiest pick we have ever taken, not many Heisman winning QB have done well in the pros. I hope im proven wrong, I really do, but Mayfield looks like a bust so far....average arm, average athletic ability....i'd rather have Kizer then him just because Kizer has more god given talent, bigger guy, stronger arm, bigger frame, etc.
I guess we will see, i'll continue to pull for Baker until then, but im concerned...if we have to use him, were probably going to be in trouble. Its of no use, we will be just labeled haters.... People are so in love with him they find anything stupid he does funny (like the Dorsey impression and the Bentley photo) and any play a demonstration of his skill. They are having a man's crush Does not matter that he has not showed any of the supposed skills that made him the first pick, and that what he has been showing is the issues that critics saw before the draft. The one I love the most is the he scrambles and scans the field like a pro, when we see open receivers waving at him... And the accuracy throwing with huge windows to open receivers... yep, that's top notch. He has a good arm and a good ball for intermediate throws, shame he seems to lack the vision and decision making to make better use of it. An by the way, a decision has to me made, either we are a WCO, and if there is nothing there the QB dumps the ball, or we are a vertical offense and the QB buys time. Having WCO QB's scrambling like headless chicken, like TT did this last game and BM does in all games, is IDIOTIC.
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Once again, I have explained to a few of you on this board, his arm has bee clocked at 60 mph.
I believe Troy Aikman knows more about arm strength then you do, and he stated last night multiple times Baker has a good arm. I am not really sure what else there is, other than FACTS and SCIENCE that you don't believe.
Troy, Terry, and about 100 national media members have all stated how impressed they are with Mayfield.
You do realize that do this for a living, you post on a board for fun.
I am pretty sure you and the other weirdo troll are the same account. you absolutely know nothing you are watching, and to say ANYONE is a bust after 3 preseason games, is well - frankly just idiotic.
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My Post game thoughts? D will be our strength Baker Mayfield has a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before he is even close to a viable NFL QB. Here is every Baker Mayfield throw from last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNcPG9NoYsHere is every Deshone Kizer throw from Week one last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Xx8Oa5nYcDeshone Kizer was farther along at this point then Baker Mayfield is, and Kizer was only 21. Kizer has: Better footwork Bigger Stronger Arm Much better velocity on his throws Better Ball placement the ONLY thing Kizer struggled with was reading coverages, and that will come simply with time and good coaching(which he didn't get here)Kizer was unfairly blamed for our poor record last year,when in reality poor play calling, lack of a running game, injuries, and a porus defense are every bit as much to blame. It was bittersweet watching Kizer throw 2 TD's against the Steelers last week. you can see Kizer has improved greatly, and thats what happens when you get proper coaching like he is getting in Green Bay, which he never got here. I'd take Kizer over Mayfield anyday if I was picking them out of the draft...Kizer is bigger, stronger, just as mobile, much better arm, the only things Kizer lacked last year was experience. Mayfield lacks a lot of things, the most prominent ones being height and lack of athletic ability. Kizer made chucking the rock downfield look effortless because he has a canon for an arm, Baker looks like he has to use everything he has just to get the ball 15 yards downfield. Again, I think Baker will have a 50/50 shot of working out, ONLY IF we give him a year to a year and a half to sit...because he doesn't have the natural athleitc ability or big arm to overcome his mistakes this early on. We should have kept Kizer, a year and program under Haley would have bore us wonderful fruit this year, but Browns fans just have no patience to develop anyone...Green Bay will develop him though...evne McCarthy said Kizer is every bit as good and talented as the guys coming out of the 1st round this year, the Packers fleeced us on that trade, no two ways about it...Kizer should still be on this roster right now as Taylor's backup, and a future starter...Kizer was a sitting year away from probably being answer...was a lot to work with Kizer when compared to Mayfield athletically, Kizer is a smart kid, you can see in Green Bay the game is slowing down for him and he is learning how to read coverages, sky's the limit for that young man...what a shame...he coulda done that here for us... Kizer is very inaccurate. A terrible trait to have in the NFL.
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In a sideline interview, I heard Landry say that the focus tonight was to work on Play Action on O. My bet is that completely explains to "strange" play calling that everyone is griping about.
The defense was on fire tonight. I just wonder how much was us doing our thing and how much was them doing their own version of working on vanilla things. Probably somewhere in the middle.
Overall, a VERy encouraging performance that put a lot of good things on tape. Lots of guys got looks in similar situations last night and that should help the coaches with this first round of cuts.
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He's no Gronk for us to be using him that much. And to my recollection it didn't work. Play calling was atrocious most of the times, borderline too stupid to be true, and clearly crossed the line of sanity on the goal line.
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Once again, I have explained to a few of you on this board, his arm has bee clocked at 60 mph.
Yeah. It's so weird. It's like someone is trying to convince me the sky isn't blue when we both can clearly see that it is...
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Watched the game on the Eagles Network, I mean Fox NFL. Could Buck and Aikman be anymore homers for the Eagles? I forgot who won the SB last year (sarcasm). Glad they kept reminding us over and over again that it was the Eagles.
Anyway.....
Defense was great, offense not so much.
Play calling on the goal line was awful and almost cost Taylor the season and made Mayfield our starter. RUN THE FREAKING BALL FROM TWO YARDS OUT!
Need to work on pass blocking. Eagles got too much pressure on our QBs.
Mayfield has some learning to do but you can see he has star potential.
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My Post game thoughts? D will be our strength Baker Mayfield has a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go before he is even close to a viable NFL QB. Here is every Baker Mayfield throw from last night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNcPG9NoYsHere is every Deshone Kizer throw from Week one last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Xx8Oa5nYcDeshone Kizer was farther along at this point then Baker Mayfield is, and Kizer was only 21. Kizer has: Better footwork Bigger Stronger Arm Much better velocity on his throws Better Ball placement the ONLY thing Kizer struggled with was reading coverages, and that will come simply with time and good coaching(which he didn't get here)Kizer was unfairly blamed for our poor record last year,when in reality poor play calling, lack of a running game, injuries, and a porus defense are every bit as much to blame. It was bittersweet watching Kizer throw 2 TD's against the Steelers last week. you can see Kizer has improved greatly, and thats what happens when you get proper coaching like he is getting in Green Bay, which he never got here. I'd take Kizer over Mayfield anyday if I was picking them out of the draft...Kizer is bigger, stronger, just as mobile, much better arm, the only things Kizer lacked last year was experience. Mayfield lacks a lot of things, the most prominent ones being height and lack of athletic ability. Kizer made chucking the rock downfield look effortless because he has a canon for an arm, Baker looks like he has to use everything he has just to get the ball 15 yards downfield. Again, I think Baker will have a 50/50 shot of working out, ONLY IF we give him a year to a year and a half to sit...because he doesn't have the natural athleitc ability or big arm to overcome his mistakes this early on. We should have kept Kizer, a year and program under Haley would have bore us wonderful fruit this year, but Browns fans just have no patience to develop anyone...Green Bay will develop him though...evne McCarthy said Kizer is every bit as good and talented as the guys coming out of the 1st round this year, the Packers fleeced us on that trade, no two ways about it...Kizer should still be on this roster right now as Taylor's backup, and a future starter...Kizer was a sitting year away from probably being answer...was a lot to work with Kizer when compared to Mayfield athletically, Kizer is a smart kid, you can see in Green Bay the game is slowing down for him and he is learning how to read coverages, sky's the limit for that young man...what a shame...he coulda done that here for us... I disagree, would rather have Mayfield than Kizer. Sounds like you have a problem with our coaching rather than whos playing QB for us. I agree with you about our coaching, especially Jackson.
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Once again, I have explained to a few of you on this board, his arm has bee clocked at 60 mph.
I believe Troy Aikman knows more about arm strength then you do, and he stated last night multiple times Baker has a good arm. I am not really sure what else there is, other than FACTS and SCIENCE that you don't believe.
Troy, Terry, and about 100 national media members have all stated how impressed they are with Mayfield.
You do realize that do this for a living, you post on a board for fun.
I am pretty sure you and the other weirdo troll are the same account. you absolutely know nothing you are watching, and to say ANYONE is a bust after 3 preseason games, is well - frankly just idiotic. LOL! thats rich, so paranoid we start accusing people of having multiple accounts just to troll simply because they have a different opinion then you. National Media members are notorious for hopping on the "hype train". What I see on screen with Mayfield is NOT what I or anyone else was sold. Look I am not going to argue this anymore. I hope for everyone's sake that Mayfield works out, because if he don't, their will be a damn Meltdown near Lake Erie.
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Watched the game on the Eagles Network, I mean Fox NFL. Could Buck and Aikman be anymore homers for the Eagles? I forgot who won the SB last year (sarcasm). Glad they kept reminding us over and over again that it was the Eagles.
Anyway.....
Defense was great, offense not so much.
Play calling on the goal line was awful and almost cost Taylor the season and made Mayfield our starter. RUN THE FREAKING BALL FROM TWO YARDS OUT!
Need to work on pass blocking. Eagles got too much pressure on our QBs.
Mayfield has some learning to do but you can see he has star potential.
Hyde is our best RB and Chubb looks slow.
You can't have your QB scrambling that much against a SB caliber team, that's asking for troubles. This was the perfect game to put our running game to the test. And by the way, I don't think the problem was the pressure, the problem is that a SB winning team must have a good secondary. In the goal line situation, they made Landry look like a rookie...twice...
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We have gone through sooooo many QBs that I just want the Browns to finally get it right. Baker has shown the skills that made him the Heisman winner. Has he been perfect? no. The kid has played in only three NFL games. Give him a freaking chance.
A lot of HOF QBs had bad first years. I'm not saying Baker is a future Hall of Famer, I can't predict the future, but I do see he has potential and big play ability.
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In a sideline interview, I heard Landry say that the focus tonight was to work on Play Action on O. My bet is that completely explains to "strange" play calling that everyone is griping about.
The defense was on fire tonight. I just wonder how much was us doing our thing and how much was them doing their own version of working on vanilla things. Probably somewhere in the middle.
Overall, a VERy encouraging performance that put a lot of good things on tape. Lots of guys got looks in similar situations last night and that should help the coaches with this first round of cuts. Don't you have to be running first for PA to work? Landry was completely destroyed by their D, he looked like a rookie... I like him, but honestly a top WR in this league shouldn't be that easy to beat in goal line situations, his two plays were embarrassing... After bitching so much, it has to be hard to be made look like a rookie....
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I disagree, would rather have Mayfield than Kizer. Sounds like you have a problem with our coaching rather than whos playing QB for us. I agree with you about our coaching, especially Jackson.
Yes. my issue is more with the coaching then who is playing Qb for us. Fact is last year we were on the hook for paying Osweiler no matter what, so we should have marched him out there for 16 million last year instead of us paying him 16 million to play for Denver, and letting Kizer sit last year and learn. Things would probably be a lot different had we done that. My biggest fear though Mayfield gets put into the lineup week 4 or week 5 because most fans are not patient enough to develop anyone and Baker struggles big time and down the tubes things go, and fans will discard him just like they discarded Kizer and demand a new QB and the cycle repeats...we need to get out of this rut, but we won't as long as we lack the patience to develop anyone in an ideal world we run the ball 30-35 times per game, play good D, stop the run, and win the battle of field position and just play good solid fundamental football instead of passing the ball 35+ times per game and putting everything on our QB...we can win as a team, and be competitive...im just concerned Baker won't get the time he needs to learn and adjust, and him playing too soon will ruin what chance he does have of actually working out.
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We have gone through sooooo many QBs that I just want the Browns to finally get it right. Baker has shown the skills that made him the Heisman winner. Has he been perfect? no. The kid has played in only three NFL games. Give him a freaking chance.
A lot of HOF QBs had bad first years. I'm not saying Baker is a future Hall of Famer, I can't predict the future, but I do see he has potential and big play ability. Bentleys Tigers and impressions? I think if the Heisman was given because of scrambling, Lamar would have won it twice.... Wasn't accuracy and eficency what made him the Heisman?
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Only problem is that Kizer wasn't the number one pick, Baker is...
Baker is supposed to be the best guy in the field by far, when he is playing the backups.
Also, pre-season is good to show the potential and the ceiling of a player... We know that BM has a high floor, which is a good thing, regarding having a #1 pick ceiling, I'm very far from convinced by his performances.
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I watched both videos you posted. I have no idea how anyone can come away saying Kizer is better. Mayfield is light years ahead of Kizer.
Kizer has:
Better footwork
Bigger
Stronger Arm
Much better velocity on his throws
Better Ball placement
Of the things you posted here, the only one you got right is bigger. Better ball placement blows my mind. Kizer was so far off in the video you posted. Mayfield's throws are much more accurate and in great location only his receiver can get to them. Its mind boggling one could assert that Kizer has better ball placement. You can take Kizer over Mayfield. I'll take Mayfield. You'll lose every time.
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I watched both videos you posted. I have no idea how anyone can come away saying Kizer is better. Mayfield is light years ahead of Kizer.
Kizer has:
Better footwork
Bigger
Stronger Arm
Much better velocity on his throws
Better Ball placement
Of the things you posted here, the only one you got right is bigger. Better ball placement blows my mind. Kizer was so far off in the video you posted. Mayfield's throws are much more accurate and in great location only his receiver can get to them. Its mind boggling one could assert that Kizer has better ball placement. You can take Kizer over Mayfield. I'll take Mayfield. You'll lose every time. Baker has a better short and intermediate ball, Kizer has by far a better long ball. My impression is that Kizer was a more natural thrower and because of his cannon would make decisions faster, problem was the the decision were not good. All and all, I was happy with the Kizer pick, think he showed potential for the place he was picked. Struggling very hard to see why Mayfield was picked first. If we wanted a project QB to develop, there was no need to take him in the first round. That is quite obvious to all. If Brock Osweiler was like TT, we still would have Kizer in the roster... My worst fear is BM ending up being like Tim Couch, not good enough to make a difference and not bad enough to be cut. That's the worst type of QB a team can have. In that sense we could say that the Kizer, Weeden and Brady picks were much better than the Charlie Frye, at least we moved on faster...
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I watched both videos you posted. I have no idea how anyone can come away saying Kizer is better. Mayfield is light years ahead of Kizer.
Kizer has:
Better footwork
Bigger
Stronger Arm
Much better velocity on his throws
Better Ball placement
Of the things you posted here, the only one you got right is bigger. Better ball placement blows my mind. Kizer was so far off in the video you posted. Mayfield's throws are much more accurate and in great location only his receiver can get to them. Its mind boggling one could assert that Kizer has better ball placement. You can take Kizer over Mayfield. I'll take Mayfield. You'll lose every time. Don't even bother bro, he is just trolling.
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I watched both videos you posted. I have no idea how anyone can come away saying Kizer is better. Mayfield is light years ahead of Kizer.
Kizer has:
Better footwork
Bigger
Stronger Arm
Much better velocity on his throws
Better Ball placement
Of the things you posted here, the only one you got right is bigger. Better ball placement blows my mind. Kizer was so far off in the video you posted. Mayfield's throws are much more accurate and in great location only his receiver can get to them. Its mind boggling one could assert that Kizer has better ball placement. You can take Kizer over Mayfield. I'll take Mayfield. You'll lose every time. Don't even bother bro, he is just trolling. Most probably.... Although being a backup QB in Green Bay is not a bad job... Much safer than being the starter or backup in Cleveland
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Oh how the perpetually unhappy work sooooo hard to keep themselves in that state...
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Your D can't produce 4 turnovers and your O only produce 3 points from that. When the D produces a turnover you must capitalize on that.
People were warned that TT will look fine sometimes and very lackluster other times. Well, you saw the lackluster last night. We have Jekyll and Hyde as our QB.
Our D is in its second year with more talent. It's showing on the field of play.
I guess my question to our fans is a simple one. If we win some games by scores like 13-10, 15-13, 9-6, will anyone really care if we are winning?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Your D can't produce 4 turnovers and your O only produce 3 points from that. When the D produces a turnover you must capitalize on that.
People were warned that TT will look fine sometimes and very lackluster other times. Well, you saw the lackluster last night. We have Jekyll and Hyde as our QB.
Our D is in its second year with more talent. It's showing on the field of play.
I guess my question to our fans is a simple one. If we win some games by scores like 13-10, 15-13, 9-6, will anyone really care if we are winning? I would, because that would mean we started the first 5 games with 1 win at most. No way we beat Pitt, NO, etc with 13 points. Even great defenses those teams will put up 20 on.
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