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possibly the future once brees retires?
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I am amazed that in this league, he sat out there for as long as he did and no one signed him. If we hadn't had the #1 pick I would have been pleading to put a flyer out on him.
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The Darnold era has begun.
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This could be a very good idea.. Good fit.. Teddy seemed to be coming along fine in NYC.. He was actually looking pretty good I thought.
He could be the future or at the very least a bridge to the Future in NO
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Wait didnt he only sign a 1 year deal? If so NO is taking a chance he inks a deal with them. Then again didnt the Vikings trade a 2nd rounder for Bradford...whom only had a year left on his deal, and he left town (now in Arizona)
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Jets made out on this one. A 3rd round pick for a guy on a 1 year deal who you didn't want to start.
If you didn't know, the Saints are all in.
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Jets made out on this one. A 3rd round pick for a guy on a 1 year deal who you didn't want to start.
If you didn't know, the Saints are all in. Huge come up.
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Best of luck to Teddy. I think it's a good fit/situation for him there.
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I think that's a good fit honestly
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That sounds really feasible. I didn't know this was in the works. I wish him luck.
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Teddy seemed to be coming along fine in NYC.. He was actually looking pretty good I thought. Bridgewater has always looked pretty good when he can stay on the field.. This might be a big win/win.. Jets get a draft pick to continue to build. Saints get a very good QB who, as long as Brees stays healthy, can sit on the sidelines and get fully healed for a year or two until Brees retires. Bridgewater is only 25, even if he doesn't see the field for another 2 years, he would still have plenty of good football left in him.
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Bridgewater = not very good. Nothing to see here.
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j/c:
Teddy was on the verge of having a big season when he blew his knee out in Minni. I never thought he would play again. However, the guy has worked his way back and is looking real good again.
Good move by the Saints. Brees is going to be 40 years old in January. The Saints just secured their QB of the future for a 3rd round pick.
It's also a good move for the Jets. They didn't have to trade for him. They got him in FA and turned it into a 3rd round pick. Everyone knows that the Darnold is the future of that franchise.
I always thought that Teddy was very similar in skill set to Brees. Good move for everyone involved.
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This is a GREAT move by the Saints. I am a Saints season ticket holder, and I have been worrying about the value of my tickets after Brees finally walks away. A lot of the fans have been touting that Taysom Hill was all set to become the next great quarterback after Brees, but after seeing 3 preseason games of Hill, it was painfully evident that this would not be the case. On top of that, God forbid something happen to Brees this season, the Saints would have ZERO chance with Savage or Hill at the helm. Adding Bridgewater gives them a possible answer at the future, and with Super Bowl aspirations, a freak injury to Brees isn't the absolute end. It would still be an unlikely uphill battle, but Bridgewater is at least capable, and with a great offensive mind like Payton leading him, he could be very good!
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I can't imagine Darnold being any more ready to start than Mayfield. I think it is going to be a long season for the Jets.
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I can't imagine Darnold being any more ready to start than Mayfield. I think it is going to be a long season for the Jets.
100% correct ... the jets decided to “eat” this year as a growing year for there rook ... I watched his pre-season snaps ... he’s no where’s near ready ... It got me to thinking ... theres been 3 “freakish” rookie year in that the rook QB’s didnt play like rooks ... Dak, Wentz and Watson ... well i dont think its any coincidence that they all were 4 year starters and 2 of the 3 were 5th year seniors ... Sam was in college for 3 years and didnt even start for two full seasons ... Math’s easy on that one ... 
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I can't imagine Darnold being any more ready to start than Mayfield. I think it is going to be a long season for the Jets.
100% correct ... the jets decided to “eat” this year as a growing year for there rook ... I watched his pre-season snaps ... he’s no where’s near ready ... It got me to thinking ... theres been 3 “freakish” rookie year in that the rook QB’s didnt play like rooks ... Dak, Wentz and Watson ... well i dont think its any coincidence that they all were 4 year starters and 2 of the 3 were 5th year seniors ... Sam was in college for 3 years and didnt even start for two full seasons ... Math’s easy on that one ... I'd add a look-at/consideration-of the teams those (3) guys went to...shoot...Philly won a SB AFTER Wentz went down. We aren't/weren't they...and neither are the Jets.
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I don't agree w/Baker being more ready than Sam. I also think that the Jets added quite a bit of talent this year. I don't think they are going to suck at all.
If we check the line in Vegas, I bet they are favored over us right now.
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The Jets and Browns are not in the same situation.
Tyrod was traded for. He was brought here to start.
Sam was drafted with high expectations. The Jets brought in Bridgewater at no risk. McCown was insurance.
Sam proved he is worth the risk to start. Not that he has blown the doors off like Marino. But he has improved since camp enough that they feel he can run the offense. They are willing to ride with him knowing the experience will make him better. And they are willing to weather the ups and downs.
By all indications they are happy with Darnold.
Baker was not going to start period. That was the plan and the plan was made clear over and over again.
The Browns want an experienced quarterback starting. They have no stomach to repeat a Kessler/ Kizer experience.
This is not a case of which guy is more ready. It is a case of which organization is more ready to start a rookie.
The Browns are happy with Baker. The Jets are happy with Sam.
Sam will handle the pressure. He is built that way. But he will struggle at times just like Baker would have if he was the starter.
When Baker gets his chance I expect him to do well.
Sam will grow from the experience.
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In what way are the Jets more ready to start a rookie QB?
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In what way are the Jets more ready to start a rookie QB? They haven't gone the past 2 seasons going 1 - 31 starting rookie QBs
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In what way are the Jets more ready to start a rookie QB? They've at least given Darnold ample reps with the 1's for the past month
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Well they traded Bridgewater which leaves McCown and Darnold.
In trading Bridgewater they must have felt that Darnold presented more upside.
If Sam had stunk it up they may have gone with Teddy.
McCown at this stage is the perfect back up mentor. There is no way that they would have planned for McCown to start for the whole year. Not at his age or the way he plays. Like I said he is insurance.
Sam has shown enough and they were in a quarterback competition.
The Browns were never in a quarterback competition.
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Well they traded Bridgewater which leaves McCown and Darnold.
In trading Bridgewater they must have felt that Darnold presented more upside.
If Sam had stunk it up they may have gone with Teddy.
McCown at this stage is the perfect back up mentor. There is no way that they would have planned for McCown to start for the whole year. Not at his age or the way he plays. Like I said he is insurance.
Sam has shown enough and they were in a quarterback competition.
The Browns were never in a quarterback competition.
None of the above statements are reasons why the Jets are more ready to start a rookie QB.
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In what way are the Jets more ready to start a rookie QB? They haven't gone the past 2 seasons going 1 - 31 starting rookie QBs Did we go 1-31 because we had rookie QBs or because the players around the rookie QBs were bad or both? I would argue that our roster is much better prepared to handle a rookie QB starting than the Jets. I would also argue that Baker Mayfield (especially with an offensive coordinator like Todd Haley) was more ready to start in the NFL coming out of college than Sam Darnold. None of this actually matters, I just thought it was a weird thing to say.
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It sounds to me the only thing they're really saying is the Jets made the decision to let him compete from the beginning. We didn't. But that in no way means we couldn't have. Seems both could have taken either path.
Both teams could have chosen to let their rookie compete or both could have chosen to let their rookie compete for the starting role during their rookie season.
In our case we have a new OC. I feel much more comfortable letting the team work under the new system for a season before starting the rookie. Installing a rookie QB while installing a new system at the same time seems might over complicate the situation a bit.
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The Jets and Browns are not in the same situation.
Tyrod was traded for. He was brought here to start.
Sam was drafted with high expectations. The Jets brought in Bridgewater at no risk. McCown was insurance.
Sam proved he is worth the risk to start. Not that he has blown the doors off like Marino. But he has improved since camp enough that they feel he can run the offense. They are willing to ride with him knowing the experience will make him better. And they are willing to weather the ups and downs.
By all indications they are happy with Darnold.
Baker was not going to start period. That was the plan and the plan was made clear over and over again.
The Browns want an experienced quarterback starting. They have no stomach to repeat a Kessler/ Kizer experience.
This is not a case of which guy is more ready. It is a case of which organization is more ready to start a rookie.
The Browns are happy with Baker. The Jets are happy with Sam.
Sam will handle the pressure. He is built that way. But he will struggle at times just like Baker would have if he was the starter.
When Baker gets his chance I expect him to do well.
Sam will grow from the experience.
Well stated. +1
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The Jets and Browns are not in the same situation.
Tyrod was traded for. He was brought here to start.
Sam was drafted with high expectations. The Jets brought in Bridgewater at no risk. McCown was insurance.
Sam proved he is worth the risk to start. Not that he has blown the doors off like Marino. But he has improved since camp enough that they feel he can run the offense. They are willing to ride with him knowing the experience will make him better. And they are willing to weather the ups and downs.
By all indications they are happy with Darnold.
Baker was not going to start period. That was the plan and the plan was made clear over and over again.
The Browns want an experienced quarterback starting. They have no stomach to repeat a Kessler/ Kizer experience.
This is not a case of which guy is more ready. It is a case of which organization is more ready to start a rookie.
The Browns are happy with Baker. The Jets are happy with Sam.
Sam will handle the pressure. He is built that way. But he will struggle at times just like Baker would have if he was the starter.
When Baker gets his chance I expect him to do well.
Sam will grow from the experience.
I agree with everything u just said 100% ... I wouldn’t change a word ... Not sure if Vers was responding directly to me when he said that he didnt agree that Baker was more ready than Sam ... I NEVER SAID THAT .... not sure why Vers directed that at me .... *shrugs* ... I said the 3 rooks over the last few year that played well beyond there years were 4 year starters and two had been in school for 5 years ... Wentz, Dak and Watson ... not sure how Baker was brought into it .. it wasn’t by me ... I was referring to the fact Sam had a lot less starts and was younger and less mature than them ... had nuttin to do with Bake ... Oh well .. Couldn’t agree more dawg ...
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Why are you being so sensitive lately? Sheesh. I'm trying to talk football and you refer to feelings.
I directed it towards you for a couple of reasons.
1. You said you agreed 100% w/another poster. In his post, he said Baker was more ready to start than Darnold.
2. I don't like talking to that guy because he twists my words around and calls me a liar. In fact, he will probably do so again because I don't have his words completely accurate. Thus, I responded to you because I thought we might actually have a football conversation.
I would like to talk some football right now. cfrs mentioned something about why are the Jets more ready to have Darnold start than we are w/Baker.
It's not about the team so much. It's about the two qbs.
Darnold took snaps under center. Baker didn't. Darnold went through progessions. Baker did not. Darnold had to make more post-snap reads in college than Baker did. Darnold was able to demonstrate looking off the safety in college. Baker didn't.
I'm not trashing Baker here, but the players were asked to do different things in college. Darnold is more ready than Baker due to those experiences.
And none of them were more NFL ready than Rosen. It's not even close what they were asked to do. That does not guarantee future success, but in terms of being NFL ready, it was:
1. Rosen
2. Darnold
A distant 3-5: Baker, Allen, Lamar.
Would you like to respond to the football points in this post?
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1. You said you agreed 100% w/another poster. In his post, he said Baker was more ready to start than Darnold.
2. I don't like talking to that guy because he twists my words around and calls me a liar. In fact, he will probably do so again because I don't have his words completely accurate. Thus, I responded to you because I thought we might actually have a football conversation. I suppose this is directed at me. And at least you admit that you twist my words, and that I didn't actually say what you are insinuating I said. Please stop. j/c The situation has a lot more to do with it than the actual QB. Had the Browns drafted Darnold and the Jets drafted Baker, Baker would be starting and Darnold would be riding the bench behind Tyrod. Bonefish is correct. And I believe he's saying the jets are situationally better to start a rookie than we are. Agree. It was going to be very very very difficult for any rookie QB to come in and unseat Tyrod. Hue made that emphatically clear months ago. Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's where we are at. Is darnold more ready than Baker? No. Is Baker more ready than Darnold? No. We can argue who is more ready til we are blue in the face, but fact is Darnold, Rosen, or Baker could all start game 1. And it looks like only the jets are going to start their rookie while Mayfield and Rosen wait.
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Yeah, I think we should ignore their college careers and what they were asked to do in college to give us any hint at how NFL ready they were coming into the league. I mean four months changes everything.
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Yeah, I think we should ignore their college careers and what they were asked to do in college to give us any hint at how NFL ready they were coming into the league. I mean four months changes everything. If you want to... but I wouldn't advise it.
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Good for Bridgewater... he gets to sit another year and have that knee heal up and get back to 100%.
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