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I saw 9/9 on the horizon ...

I saw the Browns execute a screen pass...the Cleveland Browns...haven't seen that in a long, long time.

Baker had ONE missed throw...ONE. On the pass to the endzone where he overthrew the WR.

Baker again threw some very, very impressive passes last night. Very. He stands ready in the pocket like a vet QB. He looks in-command and is not flustered.

Dayes looks like that classic guy who takes a couple years to develop and then becomes a good contributor for a relatively long time in the league.

Cajuste gets open...but that last drop may bring on the Turk.

I saw Harrison with the start at LT but didn't notice anything (that's good)...I think Robinson started at RT? Coleman at RT with the last team?

I saw a lot of Brogan which I liked better than seeing a bunch of Stanton.

I wish I'd seen our starters play the first series or two.

That screen pass was one of the nicest Bake threw all pre-season ...

he lofted it over the DLman’s out stretched arms into Hilliards or Dayes who were only about 7 yards away from Bake with the defended in between ..

Thats really hard to do in that amount of space ... requires an incredible amount of touch ... that was REALLY REALLY IMPRESSIVE IMO ...

+ 1 he has the arm and the touch!

I posted this on the other what did I see thread....
People say Baker holds the ball to long but it isn't at the expense of taking a sack. He holds the ball when he has time. When the pressure arrives he either gets out of the pocket or makes the throw.
In the end he seems to make the right decision with the ball. His pocket presence is uncanny.
Baker impresses me with the little things, like the soft toss in the screen, the pass where he stood in the pocket and laid a perfect pass on the crossing route. The enzome pass to. Callaway was a bit overthrown but it was placed where either the WR or no one was gonna get it.
All in all he is improving because he studies the game by putting in the time and now time is on his side so he can sit and keep getting better.
I though that Chubb showed good vision and quick feet. He improves each game. Dayes looked quick. I like him. I'm not as impressed with the next guy as others are.
Callaway didn't get many opportunities.
Defense was solid. There is gonna be some unhappy people and fans when final cuts come. We gonna trim some nice talent for the first time since I can remember.

I posted this about Baker on the other what did I see thread....
People say Baker holds the ball to long but it isn't at the expense of taking a sack. He holds the ball when he has time. When the pressure arrives he either gets out of the pocket or makes the throw.
In the end he seems to make the right decision with the ball. His pocket presence is uncanny.
Baker impresses me with the little things, like the soft toss in the screen, the pass where he stood in the pocket and laid a perfect pass on the crossing route. The endzone pass to Callaway was a bit overthrown but it was placed where either the WR or no one was gonna get it.
All in all he is improving because he studies the game by putting in the time and now time is on his side so he can sit and keep getting better.
I though that Chubb showed good vision and quick feet. He improves each game. Dayes looked quick. I like him. I'm not as impressed with Hilliard as others are.
Callaway didn't get many opportunities.
Defense was solid. There is gonna be some unhappy people and fans when final cuts come. We gonna trim some nice talent for the first time since I can remember.

And while visiting the "Isle of Optimism" Don't forget the sunglasses and tanning oil.

Its preseason with backups its not like he has timing down and all receivers are running correct crisp routes. I am sure its a bit of a sandlot game in that receivers are trying to get open however they can. He was waiting for that to happen on occasion. Your point is correct he didnt take sacks so a great positive. I am sure with starters and practice and chemistry in the future he will get rid of the ball with speed as needed in a real game game.

I agree Bad.

Here's what I saw...

Baker continues to impress. In situations where the receiver is not open, he opts to get rid of the ball.

I know it was just the backups but the defense looked great again. Through 3 quarters the D was pitching another shutout (excluding that muffed punt.)

I really like Ratley. Hope he makes the team.

Brantley had 3 QB hits.

I think Mike Jordan will be cut.

I like Dayes over Hilliard if we keep a 4th RB.

Anyone see the pass that was dropped over the middle by the guy that went up to get it? I believe it was bakers second pass.

Was a complete rocket of a throw. wonder where the haters are on his arm.....

Watching the game, then the Mayfield cut-up video in the “Post-game” thread, I think the Mayfield/Brees comparison holds water. They look/play similarly to my untrained eye.

To Willies. I feel like someone here called it a "dangerous pass"... only because it will take your fingers off! Picture perfect dart where only your guy can catch it.

I saw a QB that some say has a weak arm drill passes with velocity and precision.

I saw Dayes do what he has done before. Look very good in preseason, but when the real bullets fly looks mediocre at best. Guy is a very good ST player though.

I saw a rookie LT stonewall and flatten guys continuously. He could very well be the starting LT by the end of the year.

I saw the Browns depth show up.

This team looks like it has a mission. Something that has been missing for decades.

I want to watch parts of the game again and focus on Harrison. He stood out to me. I see that you saw the same thing.

When's it on again on NFL Network? Yes cfrs, I know I can google it.

I posted earlier today that I re-watched the first 1/2 focusing on Harrison...and was impressed. I also don't have the footwork/technique expertise that others have to give an in-depth appraisal, and his performance wasn't against first team defensive players. That said, he looked like a real life LT to me.

Thanks for the info.

I paid attention to him, and he looks the part. The guy he was blocking was a starter, not some second string player. He is nasty and strong. I really believe in time we will see him start at LT, and Bitonio will be back at LG. He was manhandling his guy, while keeping his feet.

Yeah, he looked strong to me, as well. That pancake block was nothing short of awesome!

If I'm not mistaken, he knocked the guy down multiple times on the same play.

I looked the guy up, #49 Freddie Bishop. I didn't realize he is a starter, but Harrison completely neutralized him.

LOL.........I can't remember all the details, but I remember saying............."Damn buoy, you just got punked."

How did we acquire Harrison?

I thought we drafted him this year

UDFA. He played for West Georgia after being released from the Texas A&M program. I did some research on that too. I can't find a definitive single reason for getting kicked off the team other than "violation of team rules." It's worth noting that Charlie Strong was the HC, and he's famous for insisting his players have high moral character. (BTW, I hold Strong in high regard.) Best I can figure is that he was releases more on a 3-strikes policy than a single note-worthy event.

Edited to add: The reason he went undrafted, how do you project a guy who dominated at West Georgia?

Thanks.

We might have a diamond in the rough, here.

Is he starter material, Vers?

Great to see the screen work! I also am encouraged by us running the corners, the wide stuff to run the DL down some and use clock. That was like almost unheard of last year, and we had the record to prove it. Pitches and sweeps will force some folks out of the stacked up boxes. Especially if you seal it off. Shades of Pruitt!

I haven't seen enough to make that determination, bro. It's hard to tell on TV sometimes. You gotta pick up on bits and pieces over a series of games.

I think we have good coaches in Hue, Haley, and Wylie and good FO w/guys who know football. I trust this group to make the right decision on who to play.

UDFA

Someone mentioned him pre-draft as one of the few LTs in the draft who might actually play LT as a pro, but that he would be a late-round flier due to his school and competition level. I watched what little tape was available and he clearly dominated...like a man among boys. But that was a problem, how would he look against SEC/Big10/PAC12 level players. I was surprised that he wasn't drafted, and really surprised when he was announced as signing with Cleveland within minutes of the end of the draft. I have been harboring hope that he will eventually be Joe's replacement.

He also had some legal trouble in the past that contributed to him being undrafted.

But what? All I have been able to find is the rather cryptic "team rules violations." One article speculated a failed drug test, but offered no proof and there was no NCAA sanction. Another article mentioned that when he submitted his transcripts of previous education to Texas A&M, he failed to list an on-line course that qualified as credits. Both articles said that he got suspended from the team multiple times in rapid succession, but again, no specific 'charges' to suggest legal trouble, just rules violations.

It is, of course, possible that since my research was limited to about 20-30 minutes, I missed something relevant. But usually, something major is easy to find.

Noon today.