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I love the roster. I'm far from being in a position of feeling like this team is playoff bound, but I think the core of this team is largely together and ready to go. How quickly their development as a unit proceeds is unknown; could take weeks, could be a next year type of thing.

But, overall, the talent is undeniable. I think Sashi did a nice job clearing house and giving us assets, while Dorsey has swiftly put the finishing touches on an incredible offseason. I mean, I'm a Sashi fan, but Dorsey's roster is a legit NFL roster.

I love it. I love our coaches, our young talent and the savvy veterans. This team is poised for some excellent things against a VERY bright future.

Now is not the time for celebration. Now is the time for war. The celebrating comes afterwards.

Will be interesting to see what, if any, waiver moves are made. Certainly a few guys will have a tentative-at-best hold on their roster spot, and there is plenty of talent up for grabs.

Overall, I'm really excited for the season.

He was on IR all of last year so there isn't much available. Take this for what it's worth...

I think the roster is built tp compete
for 4 solid q. of football.
its brought in players that played at high levels at really good competition
in college.
its a faster overall roster. every year the Browns have had the slower team on the field.
it finally has difference makers.
but all that is no good if you mentally cant be strong

Not intending to highjack your thread, EO but since there is little available on Lawrence I want to add this article that I just found.

At this point, it's hard to agree with the writer that he's better than Coley.

I will say that I am intrigued by the pickup. Remember we didn't know anything about Coley before last year either.

Brown's Wire Article

The Browns’ 53-man roster

Offense (25)

QB (3): Tyrod Taylor, Baker Mayfield, Drew Stanton

RB (3): Carlos Hyde, Duke Johnson, Nick Chubb

WR (6): Jarvis Landry, Antonio Callaway, Rashard Higgins, Damion Ratley, Derrick Willies, Josh Gordon

TE (4): David Njoku, Darren Fells, Seth DeValve, Orson Charles

OL (9): Joel Bitonio, Austin Corbett, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Chris Hubbard, Desmond Harrison, Earl Watford, Greg Robinson, Aaron Neary

Defense (25)

DL (9): Myles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogbah, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Ifeadi Odenigbo, Larry Ogunjobi, Trevon Coley, Devaroe Lawrence, Carl Davis

LB (6): Christian Kirksey, Jamie Collins, Joe Schobert, Genard Avery, James Burgess, Tanner Vallejo

DB (10): Denzel Ward, Terrance Mitchell, T.J. Carrie, E.J. Gaines, Denzel Rice, Tavierre Thomas, Jabrill Peppers, Damarious Randall, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Derrick Kindred

Special teams (3)

K Zane Gonzalez, P Britton Colquitt, LS Charley Hughlett

Link

surprised orson charles is still here

We probably have the most competent people making personnel decisions here since the 80's. I for one give them the benefit of the doubt. They've done a pretty good job up to this point.

Let's see how many players we return from last year. I didn't really realize just hhow extensive the turnover was until I really looked.

The Browns’ 53-man roster
Offense (25)

QB (3)
Tyrod Taylor, Baker Mayfield, Drew Stanton - Returning players: None

RB (3)
Carlos Hyde, Duke Johnson, Nick Chubb - Returning players: 1

WR (6)
Jarvis Landry, Antonio Callaway, Rashard Higgins, Damion Ratley, Derrick Willies, Josh Gordon - returning players: 2

TE (4)
David Njoku, Darren Fells, Seth DeValve, Orson Charles - Returning players: 2

OL (9)
Joel Bitonio, Austin Corbett, JC Tretter, Kevin Zeitler, Chris Hubbard, Desmond Harrison, Earl Watford, Greg Robinson, Aaron Neary - Returning players: 3


Defense (25)

DL (9)
Myles Garrett, Emmanuel Ogbah, Chris Smith, Chad Thomas, Ifeadi Odenigbo, Larry Ogunjobi, Trevon Coley, Devaroe Lawrence, Carl Davis - Returning players: 4

LB (6)
Christian Kirksey, Jamie Collins, Joe Schobert, Genard Avery, James Burgess, Tanner Vallejo - Returning players: 4

DB (10)
Denzel Ward, Terrance Mitchell, T.J. Carrie, E.J. Gaines, Denzel Rice, Tavierre Thomas, Jabrill Peppers, Damarious Randall, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Derrick Kindred - Returning players: 3

Special teams (3)
K Zane Gonzalez, P Britton Colquitt, LS Charley Hughlett - Returning: all 3

I think cutting nassib and meder was a bad decision. I hope we can sign brantley to the practice squad

I don't think they liked Brantley's work ethic, and wanted him away from the team.

j/c

One of the features of having a bad team is the guys at the bottom are generally worse than those at the bottom of better teams. There tend to be better players cut from better teams.

Contrasted against that we have watched 'our guys,' in some cases over a period of years, try to realize their dream. We have an emotional investment in their success/failure. It's hard to watch the team cut guys we've rooted for, but that's why we hired Dorsey & Co., to make those moves to make the team better.

Carl will be alright, he's invested soundly. Nate will have those beautiful daughters to keep him grounded in what really matters. And Jamie will forever be the Pirogi King of Parma. Meanwhile, if Dorsey & Co. have done their job, the depth of the Cleveland Browns is better than it was last week.

j/c

Dorsey told me a lot with these cuts.....

WHAT ??

A lot.

ok .

I believe he is suggesting that Dorsey is making bad decisions because he is trying to make this "his" team.

Of course, one could also conclude that some folks on here were overestimating the players that Sashi brought on board.

I think there is a little bit of both at play.

Are you good with some of the cuts?

Look, I get it, we're talking about most guys towards the bottom of the roster, but there were a couple starters/backups that made absolutely no sense IMO.

That said, I readily admit that I know very little about the guys we brought in. Still, there were cuts that made no sense.

Senseless cuts have been consistent with the losing going alllll the way back to 2007. And before.

I don't understand this either. Generalities much?

Dawg , I didn't mean to set you off , I wanted your opinion on Dorsey's moves ; what they meant to you / your insight ...

Orchard was no surprise to me , Nassib wasn't a big deal ( if a new guy shows up ) .. I hope Mckinnon makes the PS .. I like many question the Pirogi Prince cut .. I looked at Jamie as he #3 tackle behind Coley and Big Larry ..

Dorsey is what Dorsey is ; A double edge sword .. A package deal , you take the good with the bad .. I am an old ( very emotionally tied ) man to my Team .. One of my biggest concerns is that we don't have Ownership or Management the really understands what a Browns fan is .. I have had many a knock down dragged out " LOUD discussion " on the subject . lol

End of the day ; I have high hope again and again, and again ..

j/c

I read an alert on my phone - that I cannot find now - that stated we are the second youngest roster in the league and have the same cap room today that we had last year minus $700k.

Interesting.

And yet we couldn’t afford Mack ...

It seems as if they didn’t want to give up th draft capital. Paying him wasn’t the problem.

.. " It seems as if they didn’t want to give up th draft capital. Paying him wasn’t the problem., "

THIS ..

FWIW: In browsing various Browns news sources, I never read where we had an issue with Mack's (likely) contract demands. We may have had those reservations, but I never read any in regards to $$$.

Supposedly, we offered a 1st, 3rd and Ogbah. Chucky wanted two 1sts.

And people would be all over the last regime if this didn't go through and the reasoning was not giving up draft capital. Funny how this stuff works.

(not saying you would take this position)

My problem with the Meder cut is this:

He was a starter all throughout camp. He was a starter on the final day of camp that was open to the public. There has never been even so much as a hint of a problem with his attitude, and he was always a really hard worker, and has a motor that never stops.

In short, he seems like a guy you make room for on your team, even if you find a better player to replace him as a starter with.

I hope Dorsey is right.

Bottom line: It wasn't a guy Dorsey brought in. And if Kendricks didn't do the insider trading thing, I would have fully expected Collins to be traded.

Nassib being cut was a surprise to me as well.. Meder, not sure. Seemed like he did a pretty good job.

Anyway, if you replace a guy with a better player, I'm good.. We'll see.

Every NFL team has to cut a Jamie Meder
they study the playbook do.whats asked in practice. give it their all on game day.
but the thing is.the Browns have been starting guys for too long that are really better as backups or rotational players for years.
you can name off the players...Prentice Robiskie Coleman etc etc
Meder is a high effort guy but their wasnt one AFC North team he could start for. same for Orchard Nassib.
how many players the Browns released were actually claimed on the waiver wire??
trust me nobody is gonna miss Nassib Orchard making zero contributions on game day

Nassib peaked in college. never developed any counter moves at this level. never was able develop any kind of kind of violent streak or aggression.
at this level you cant be "nice guy" at his position
and expect to rack.up.huge numbers.
any of his whopping 5 career sacks was either he was unblocked or or the qb happened to be funneled toward him.
i never saw him shed a block and bring the qb down.
plus in the run game he would get easily man handled

Guess I can’t blame Gruden for going with the bears offer of two firsts ... plus that keeps him out of your conference ...

Thats a good offer buy us ... we tried ... even if we offered the same as Da Bears if I were Gruden i’d Have chosen the bears cause our draft picks gonna be after theres ... and it gets him one step further away ...

I see a report that the Browns signed Pittsbugh's TE Pharoah McKever.

Guess we couldn't live without a Pharoah.

Updates on Cleveland Browns practice squad signings - Dawgs By Nature
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/9/2/17812944/updates-on-cleveland-browns-practice-squad-signings

Maybe that's for intel

Here is what I think based on what I've been reading:

Meder is a run-plugging DT...and a good one at that. He gets very little penetration and is not a threat to the QB. He was a "starter" due to Coley being injured and Brantley being a slacker (credit to Vers as he was on Brantley's lack-of-effort from the get-go). Coley & Ogunjobi will be the starters.

Williams wants his DTs to be able to penetrate and pressure. When the Rats cut Davis (a name I've read several times as a guy we should pick up if waived), I think that clearly became the replacement for Meder. Davis is a good player that fits Williams' DT mold.

I love the Meder stories in pro sports. I think he will land on a roster somewhere.