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Other than waking up to a message from Swish, telling me he was suspended, I have no idea what happened last night. Your hate and bias, never let you consider that I am not part of Swish's cult.

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Keep going w/the name calling and insults.

I spoke my piece. I do not like racial profiling and stereotyping. Now, I am done w/this thread.

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I'm not calling you any names or insulting you. I'm am just providing a fair critique to your hate and bias.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
You are really good at resorting to insults to make your point. Swish is the one who started this by stereotyping whites. I'm tired of you and Swish constantly resorting to the same hateful tactics as as guys like rocky and Vambo.



If you have something to say about me, be man enough to post it directly to me. tsktsk Stop with the cowardly hiding names in a list as you BASH posters who don't share your opinion. notallthere

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You are really good at resorting to insults to make your point. Swish is the one who started this by stereotyping whites. I'm tired of you and Swish constantly resorting to the same hateful tactics as as guys like rocky and Vambo.



If you have something to say about me, be man enough to post it directly to me. tsktsk Stop with the cowardly hiding names in a list as you BASH posters who don't share your opinion. notallthere


Wow V, we agree on something.

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You are really good at resorting to insults to make your point. Swish is the one who started this by stereotyping whites. I'm tired of you and Swish constantly resorting to the same hateful tactics as as guys like rocky and Vambo.



If you have something to say about me, be man enough to post it directly to me. tsktsk Stop with the cowardly hiding names in a list as you BASH posters who don't share your opinion. notallthere


Wow V, we agree on something.



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They have a consumer base that they seem to be targeting well.

Anybody who thinks it's a good idea to pay $200 to get swoosh marks on their shoes probably supports Kaepernick to begin with.



Just do it.


and now we see the real reason Kap is out of the NFL

It's his chicken legs folks. I see more meat on the legs at KFC than I do on his sticks.


This is the real reason...



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I'm not going to put your ass on ignore. And I could care less if you like it or not, but when you run around here and start stereotyping races, I'm gonna call you out! And I could care less if you like it or not.

You are no better than the racists on the other side.

Don't freaking knock "all whites" w/your dumb ass stereotypes and expect me to ignore it. You wanna dance, son? We'll dance!


So butthurt he is on ignore he brings it up like twice a week. lol


Waste of your time boss. The level of sanctimony on any pro-POC or anti white topic is beyond reasoning with. I've even found some common ground with CHS but Swish is a racial crusader to an unreasonable and obnoxious degree. Whites are bad, POC are good.....not worth my time just like I would not deal with someone who espoused the opposite. I would block them as well.





To the story. I don't care about Colin Kapernick, he can kneel, and he can campaign. Nike can do whatever they want. I think the original intent has been outrageously taken out of context by the right. Which of course cause an equal reaction on the left making anyone who doesn't support it anti-black....both disgusting overcompensation's.


Colin Kapernick kneeled for the anthem, he is a not a martyr and he is not a traitor. He's just a dumb kid who got involved in something that blew up. Before this his biggest prize was his shoe collection. If this makes him feel good, no problem. Let him live, I don't care if people kneel for the anthem, it's anti-American to tell them they have to stand, but it's a business so I understand the target demographic hates it, it needs to be stopped. You work for a company and it hurts the company, you need to kneel on your own time.


Making Kaepernick a martyr is something so counterproductive and stupid only the left could come up with it.

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I have worked along side Heroes for 30 years in the Fire Service yet watch as others want to make some kind of hero out of Kap.

Kap is no hero.

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I have worked along side Heroes for 30 years in the Fire Service yet watch as others want to make some kind of hero out of Kap.

Kap is no hero.


He's also not some diabolical anti-white, anti-American foreign agent out to undermine the democracy of America.

He's a kid who wants to bring awareness to injustices that he see's. No matter how incorrect or ill advised his thoughts may be (or may not be) turning this into a cross the right wants to die on is stupid. Nothing could be more counter productive than crying about what some guy does during the national anthem.

You think he gets a Nike deal if right wing snow flakes weren't still making this national news?

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I think it is awesome that we celebrate furthering the divide rather than trying to bridge the gap.


Well, I guess people have a choice to speak out for what they believe in or bend over and take it. I'm not bending over for anybody.


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You are really good at resorting to insults to make your point.


You mean like calling Kap a mental midget?


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Once again the Left uses children to push their issues. tsktsk

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Once again the Left uses children to push their issues. tsktsk


lol, fake outrage. That meme pretty much nails it IMHO. From the Rep calling them baboons to the idiot burning their nikes, this is much more about silencing a protest against racial injustice than it is about the respecting flag, vets or the nation.

‘He would be the first to kneel’: Pat Tillman exploited to attack Kaepernick, biographer says

By Alex Horton
September 4 at 4:13 PM
Pat Tillman was an NFL star. Pat Tillman turned down millions and enlisted in the Army after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Pat Tillman died in combat.

That is enough for some people to again use Tillman's death to make political arguments, this time to bludgeon Nike and its campaign with former National Football League quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who has knelt during the national anthem to protest police brutality.

"Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything,” a new ad says, with Kaepernick's face in stark black and white.

For example, Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), an Army reservist, said Tillman “died for our flag and national anthem.” The congressman has joined conservatives who mischaracterize the protests as disrespectful to troops and veterans.

Lost in the political posturing is Tillman himself and the complexities of the sandals-wearing, long-haired kid from the San Francisco Bay area.

He was an idealistic, voracious reader who often struggled with the meaning of military service and considered moral conviction a high virtue, said Jon Krakauer, the author of “Where Men Win Glory,” a biography of Tillman.

"Pat would have found Kaepernick an extremely admirable person for what he believed in,” Krakauer told The Washington Post. “I have no doubt if he was in the NFL today, he would be the first to kneel. So there is irony about what is going on.”

Tillman walked away from a $3.6 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals and enlisted nine months after the 9/11 attacks. He deployed to Iraq in 2003.

He was killed in Afghanistan in 2004 in what the military initially described to his family and the public as a heroic death at the hands of the enemy. The Pentagon later acknowledged Tillman was killed accidentally by a fellow soldier during an ambush.

His death arrived amid politically fraught times for President George W. Bush as his reelection neared. The First Battle of Fallujah had underscored the sophistication of the Iraqi insurgency, foretelling a long U.S. presence there, and six days after Tillman's death, some of the first photos of torture at the Abu Ghraib prison surfaced in reporting by "60 Minutes."

The administration needed a symbol to change the discussion. It found one in Tillman, Krakauer said. Tillman himself understood his story — a talented NFL star shedding riches to go to war as an elite soldier — was primed for exploitation by Pentagon public affairs officers.

He even had something of a premonition.

A fellow soldier in the Ranger Regiment told Krakauer about a conversation he had with Tillman in 2003. “[Tillman] said, 'If get killed, I don’t want Bush to parade me through the streets to use as a political tool,’ ” Krakauer said. “And of course, that’s what Bush did.”

Twisting Tillman's death into political messaging occurred immediately after he died, Krakauer said.

Last fall, Trump invoked Tillman's death to criticize Kaepernick for kneeling.

Soon after, Tillman's widow, Marie, asked people not to use her husband's service to silence others.

"The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one’s heart — no matter those views — is what Pat and so many other Americans have given their lives for,” she said in a statement.

Her organization granting scholarships to troops, veterans and military spouses, the Pat Tillman Foundation, declined to comment further Tuesday. Zeldin's office did not return a request for comment.

But the messages from Zeldin and commentators such as occasional Fox News columnist Stephen Miller unspooled across social media, demonstrating that Tillman's legacy continues to be malleable and convenient. Even a police union in New Jersey used Tillman's image to score points.

Krakauer said he hopes the Pat Tillman Foundation and its growing stable of accomplished scholars can reverse the appropriation of Tillman's legacy.

He has sat on selection committees for the scholars and said applicants who are chosen demonstrate Tillman's ideals — curiosity, intellectual rigor and service to others.

A Navy pilot heading to medical school. A Marine recruiter bound to be a lawyer. An Army intelligence soldier turned urban planner.

There are hundreds of others. They contain multitudes, Krakauer said, underneath the uniform.

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Who would be the ones burning the crosses? Latino's? Asian? Blacks? Whites? Combination?

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I think both sides of this issue are being a little hypocritical.

First, Nike is a private business, they can choose any ad they wish to make. If you don't like it, don't wear or buy nike products.

Here is where the hypocrisy comes in on BOTH sides.

1. A lot of people on the right who are boycotting Nike, still support a church who systematically rapes children. They will boycott a company for an AD, but not one word of a boycott on the catholic church.....just saying.

2. A lot of people on the left (KAP included), started this entire thing over views that minorities are oppressed. So Kap is now taking millions from a company that oppresses minorities with slave labor, and markets 100 shoes to poor minority children.

Am I the only one seeing these two things?


Great post, but one minor change - Kaep has been signed by Nike for a long time - the word "now" implies this is new, but it is not. Regardless, your points are very valid (outside of slave labor - do some research on that, you'll see that Nike has been a leader in fair wages and quality of life for its contract factories (look up the FLA, http://www.fairlabor.org/) - this isn't the 80s any longer - and to be fair, they'll even admit they have a ways to go)

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Chris Kyle’s Widow Has a Message for Nike Over Its Colin Kaepernick Ad

The athletic gear brand is already under fire by many — and now the company has a brand new enemy

By Zachary Leeman | Wednesday, September 5, 2018


Nike has yet another high-profile critic of its recent ad campaign featuring former quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

The ad, which features Kaepernick’s face and is meant to celebrate the company’s “just do it” slogan, has caused major controversy this week.


Fans have posted videos of themselves burning Nike products — and the company’s stock has taken a hit.

The main issue most people seem to have with the ad are the words put over Kaepernick’s face: “Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.”

Kaepernick, the former quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers and the originator of the national anthem-kneeling protests, has many supporters as well as critics.
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Since leaving the NFL, his celebrity has only grown.

He’s gotten a $1 million book deal, a television deal, and several media awards. The word “sacrifice” doesn’t really apply to him in the way Nike apparently intended.

The word “sacrifice” surely belongs to people like late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, whose military service and struggles were highlighted in the 2014 hit movie “American Sniper,” and in a book by the same name, co-authored by Kyle.
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Kyle was murdered in 2013 while helping a veteran deal with PTSD issues. He left behind his wife, Taya (shown above left), and their two children. He served four tours in the Iraq War and received the Silver Star and four Bronze stars, among other awards.

Taya Kyle is among those who are unhappy with Nike’s new Kaepernick ad. Kyle’s widow, who now runs a foundation in her husband’s name, took to Facebook to blast the athletic gear company.

“Nike, I love your gear, but you exhaust my spirit on this one. Your new ad with Colin Kaepernick, I get the message, but that sacrificing everything thing,” wrote Taya Kyle. “It just doesn’t play out here. Sacrificing what exactly? A career? I’ve done that both times I chose to stay home and be with my kids instead of continuing my business climb … and it wasn’t sacrificing everything. It was sacrificing one career and some money and it was because of what I believe in and more importantly, who I believe in.”
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She went on to say that the most Kaepernick sacrificed in leaving the NFL was some money — but plenty of other doors were opened for him.

She, then, as many others have done, highlighted former NFL player turned Army Ranger Pat Tillman, who died in the line of duty while serving overseas in 2004.

He left his NFL contract behind to serve his country.

“You want to talk about someone in the NFL sacrificing everything? Pat Tillman. NFL STARTING, not benched, player who left to join the Army and died for it. THAT is sacrificing everything for something you believe in,” wrote Taya Kyle.

She continued, “How about other warriors? Warriors who will not be on magazine covers, who will not get lucrative contracts and millions of followers from their actions and who have truly sacrificed everything. They did it because they believed in something. Take it from me, when I say they sacrificed everything, they also sacrificed the lives of their loved ones who will never be the same. THAT is sacrificing everything for something they believe in.”


She ended her thoughts by saying she would be joining the boycotts of the Nike brand. She wrote, “All I know is, I was actually in the market for some new kicks and at least for now, I’ve never been more grateful for Under Armour.

https://www.lifezette.com/2018/09/chris-...-kaepernick-ad/



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I chose an article that came out BEFORE the recent ads because I thought that the post-Kaep ads would be overly biased against Nike. However, I can post them if you like.

Here is one from 2017. You tell me how much Nike cares about social justice? Their current ad is a farce that is designed to make money w/a certain target group and it has absolutely nothing to do w/social justice.

Nike is as slimy of a company as there is.

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Escalating Sweatshop Protests Keep Nike Sweating

Nike worked hard to improve conditions in its factories around the world, but activists say the company has been slipping back into using sweatshops.

Escalating Sweatshop Protests Keep Nike Sweating
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By Elizabeth Segran5 minute Read

(This story has been updated to reflect a new statement from Nike about its stance on sweatshops.)

College students protesting outside Nike stores around the country. Workers recently laid off at a factory in Honduras holding a rally to condemn the sportswear giant’s treatment of employees. Activists in a group called United Students Against Sweatshops (USAS) organizing a “Global Call to Action Against Nike” to draw attention to allegations of mass fainting, wage theft, and padlocked exits at factories.

It may seem like a flashback to the 1990s, when Nike became the poster child for corporate irresponsibility and was regularly targeted by anti-sweatshop activists. Over the next decade and a half, the company made serious efforts to reform its practices, adopting one of the business world’s first codes of conduct and winning praise from labor activists. But in recent months Nike has lost much of that goodwill, amid similar allegations, and is sparking new protests led by a new generation of activists.

Benjamin Simonds-Malamud, a sophomore at Northeastern University, recently took an interest in workers’ rights. Several weeks ago, he joined a conference call hosted by USAS in which union leaders at the Honduras Star factory discussed what had happened to workers when Nike abruptly ended its contract.

“We heard about how this had devastated the local economy there and how those workers were fighting for production–and their livelihoods–to come back,” Simonds-Malamud says. “Hearing about that firsthand had a big impact on me. I’m down to support any campaign that will improve people’s lives and show solidarity with people who are being exploited.”

On Saturday, he will be among the students standing in front of Niketown, a large Nike store on Newbury Street, Boston’s posh shopping district. He anticipates about 30 others will join him. Small rallies like this are planned in front of Nike retail stores around the country. In the past, even small USAS-organized rallies have prompted certain stores to shut down for a few hours, forcing Nike to lose revenue.

When reached for comment, a Nike spokesperson clarified that it was not Nike’s decision to leave the Honduras factory. Instead, it was kicked out by Gildan Inc., a large apparel company that recently acquired American Apparel, when it took over the facility. “Nike, along with the other brands in the factory, were informed that Gildan would take over 100% of factory production, replacing current brands with their own apparel brands,” Nike’s spokesperson said. “We have been advocating that Gildan work to minimize the impact on their workers.”

Angeles Solis, a national organizer for USAS, makes it clear that Nike is just one of many corporations that she claims violate workers rights around the world. Her organization has also gone after Adidas, REI, North Face, and many other corporations. But since Nike is the biggest sportswear brand on the market, it is important to shed light on what it is doing and try to change it. “Nike has been a target in the past because it does have a history of sweatshop violations,” says Solis. “Nike is not going to go away: It is the biggest sports apparel manufacturer in the world. So our goal is to improve worker conditions and practices.”

But the Honduras factory layoffs are just part of a broader pattern of activity on Nike’s part that has outraged these students. Two years ago, Nike stopped allowing independent inspectors to monitor working conditions at Nike factories, saying that it would instead carry out these checks on its own. Since then, there have been reports of terrible working conditions inside these factories.

In Cambodia, for instance, 500 workers inside a plant that supplies products to Nike, Puma, Asics, and the VF Corporation were hospitalized after fainting out of exhaustion and hunger as a result of working 10-hour shifts, six days a week, in 98-degree heat.

Defying Nike’s policy that bars the entry of investigators into their factories, watchdog group Worker Rights Consortium managed to get access to a plant in Hansae, Vietnam. It was able to document a string of alleged abuses there including wage theft, forced overtime, restrictions on the workers’ use of toilets, exposure to toxic solvents, and padlocked exit doors. “Workers (were) collapsing unconscious at their sewing machines due to heat and overwork,” the report said.

Nike has been a target of anti-sweatshop protests since 1991, when an activist produced a report about factory conditions in Indonesia. However, over the years, it has attempted to improve its image by increasing monitoring in factories and working with human rights groups to clean up its supply chain. In 2005, it became the first in the sportswear industry to be fully transparent about all the factories with which it partners, publicly posting its audits. However, its policy of preventing third-party investigators from verifying its claims has reignited the debate about working conditions at Nike’s supplier factories.

Nike has clarified that it continues to allow third-party audits at all of its factories. However, it has chosen not to cooperate with the Worker Rights Consortium because the organization was founded by USAS. “We respect the Worker Rights Consortium’s (WRC) commitment to workers’ rights while recognizing that the WRC was co-created by United Students Against Sweatshops, a campaigning organization that does not represent the multi-stakeholder approach that we believe provides valuable, long-lasting change,” Nike’s spokesperson says.
[Photo: Flickr user Open Grid Scheduler]

College students have been vital in helping to change how big corporations like Nike manage their supply chains, especially since 1997 when they first began such large-scale protests. And the company has attracted particular attention on campuses, since Nike has lucrative deals with universities to supply gear for their athletic teams. Over the last two decades, worker’s rights organizations like the Worker’s Rights Consortium have had a strategy of educating students about Nike’s alleged overseas violations. Student activists, for their part, can apply pressure to university administrators to end contracts with Nike until it can prove it is treating workers properly.

“The collegiate market for Nike is huge,” says Solis. “It produces athletic gear and bookstore apparel, and sponsors games. The University of Texas, Austin, for instance, has a $250 million contract with Nike.”

This approach of targeting colleges has proven particularly effective. The athletics programs of the University of California Berkeley and Los Angeles had been sponsored by Nike, but in August the schools switched their sponsorship to Under Armour in a 10-year agreement. Georgetown, the University of Washington, and Northeastern cut their ties with Nike until it allows the Worker’s Rights Consortium access to its factories. Rutgers has allowed its relationship with Nike to expire and has asked any company that bids on its athletic sponsorship to allow periodic inspections of supplier factories.

In the past, Nike has responded to these student protests with targeted measures. In 2010, for instance, it paid $1.54 million to help 1,800 workers in Honduras who lost their jobs when Nike closed a factory there—this came after USAS pressured the company to offer severance pay that had been denied to workers by the factory.

“This is not the first time we’ve fought Nike,” Solis says. “And in the past, we’ve beat them.”

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We all use a product that was made by people making 8-18 dollars a month. Look up Foxconn. Nike ain’t the only multinational corporation who uses these methods.

Make a thread about the failings of capitalism if you want to talk about sweatshops.

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We all use a product that was made by people making 8-18 dollars a month. Look up Foxconn. Nike ain’t the only multinational corporation who uses these methods.

Make a thread about the failings of capitalism if you want to talk about sweatshops.


I think he might be getting on board with autocracy these days bro.

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We all use a product that was made by people making 8-18 dollars a month. Look up Foxconn. Nike ain’t the only multinational corporation who uses these methods.

Make a thread about the failings of capitalism if you want to talk about sweatshops.

So if we had less capitalism in the United States, that would somehow change Honduras and Cambodia labor policies?


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
We all use a product that was made by people making 8-18 dollars a month. Look up Foxconn. Nike ain’t the only multinational corporation who uses these methods.

Make a thread about the failings of capitalism if you want to talk about sweatshops.


I think he might be getting on board with autocracy these days bro.


See, these types of posts come across as personal attacks. I did not attack either of you. I addressed the topic w/relevant articles. You both chose to discredit me. That's brave.

I fully understand that other companies exploit their workers. However, Nike is the company that is making ads that highlight social injustice. They are doing it to make money. It's not a political or social statement. It's one of greed and manipulation.

Furthermore, while other companies are guilty of the slave labor, Nike has been at the forefront of "slave labor" since the 1990s. I remember teaching a class where we were talking about exploitation and Nike's name kept coming up over and over. Do some research before you speak again. I am not making this up.

You can both ignore all of this and instead make fun of me. Kudos.

Once again, I will tell you both............you are hurting our cause. Play fair. We are right in what we believe, but we cannot lower ourselves to such unsavory tactics.

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Not that I'm anti-capitalism but sure it would. Less consumer demand for super cheap products would mean less demand for sweatshops.

Capitalism doesn't exists without consumer demand.

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Not that I'm anti-capitalism but sure it would. Less consumer demand for super cheap products would mean less demand for sweatshops.

Capitalism doesn't exists without consumer demand.

No economy exists without consumer demand.. and if the goal of socialism is to spread the wealth around more equitably, thus giving the poor more disposable income.. how does that decrease consumer demand for sneakers? or does that mean that somebody is willingly going to spend $250 for sneakers they could otherwise get for $175?


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somebody is willingly going to spend $250


This has always baffled me.
Man, that's a whole lot of good, nutritious food. Gas for the car. Shopping trip to Best Buy.

Sneakers.
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We all use a product that was made by people making 8-18 dollars a month. Look up Foxconn. Nike ain’t the only multinational corporation who uses these methods.

Make a thread about the failings of capitalism if you want to talk about sweatshops.

So if we had less capitalism in the United States, that would somehow change Honduras and Cambodia labor policies?


Well, in the case of Honduras, we wouldn't have such a political interest in them, and probably would stop supporting and training their tyrannical military that has historically brought violence against activists and students. There's a good reason why most socialist and communist movements seek to build an international movement/government.

My question is why Cons think that our economy should primarily be built on manufacturing when there's no way we can compete with places like Foxconn or other manufacturing companies in other countries. There's no way we can keep up with their output, especially in areas of clothing and phone production and what not. Why don't they want to use our economic powers to help migrate our workforce into the tertiary economy.

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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somebody is willingly going to spend $250


This has always baffled me.
Man, that's a whole lot of good, nutritious food. Gas for the car. Shopping trip to Best Buy.

Sneakers.
250
wow.


All started with designer jeans in the late 70s early 80s imho. A middle class item that suddenly had some kind of prestige added to it with some thread on the pockets. smh

Now tons of products do the same thing. Value added marketing.

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You're making yourself and your cause look bad by heroizing someone like Chris Kyle, who openly bragged, unsolicited by the way, that he spent Hurricane Katrina sniping "looters and rioters" in NO. Now you want to invoke the name Pat Tillman too? Do you not know who these people are? Pat Tillman is a Hero, who observed the atrocities of the early war on terror, who understood the strife in America, who was killed by his America. Everyone who ever knew Pat Tillman agrees that he would support kneelers if he was not already kneeling himself. Stop trying to attack people on these forums via articles, it makes you look just as malicious as Vambo, 40 and the other people who do it.

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Okay. Keep going w/the personal attacks rather than just speaking your mind.

It's revealing.

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Informing you that Chris Kyle is an American executioner is not a personal attack on you, just because you dislike the news.

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This wasn’t a personal attack. This is a factual statement about multinational corporations and their manufacturing process. Rethink the argument.

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Broke: Thinking that Americans who serve you food every day don't need a federally mandated pay raise
Woke: Thinking that Chinese factory workers deserve a livable wage, 8 hour days and no suicide nets around their buildings

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You are both putting the emphasis on me while ignoring that Nike is guilty of slave labor. In fact, no company on the planet has been accused of slave labor more than Kike. Yet, they are putting out ads of social justice.

You can continue to insult me and belittle my opinions, but the fact of the matter is that is ad campaign was not about social justice. Instead, it was about social manipulation.

And again, I have not made one personal insult towards either of you in all of my replies. I am talking about the subject.

The more you try to discredit me, the more you reveal your true nature.

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Disagreeing with your argument isn’t a personal attack; that’s called a disagreement.

Also...”Kike”?

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I didn't make an argument. I provided articles.
This sounds like an attack to me:

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Stop trying to attack people on these forums via articles, it makes you look just as malicious as Vambo, 40 and the other people who do it.
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And so does this:

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I think he might be getting on board with autocracy these days bro.


I understand that your group does not want to listen to alternative takes on this subject and you will all do your best to shoot down those opinions.

And I applaud it because you are revealing yourselves as to who you really are.

You are no better than the haters on the other side.

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I think you meant to reply to CHS.

Okay, cool. I’m glad you used articles. This still doesn’t mean it’s an attack on your character we just disagree with your reasoning, and like I said the other night it’s okay to disagree. I know I’ll let you know why I disagree.

Discussion means disagreements. It doesn’t mean people will agree because you post an article.

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Dude, every company in your stock portfolio operates on slave labor. And no, Nike is not the top purveyor of slave labor nor have they been accused as such. Nike hasn't even been around for 40 years for Christ's sake. Your sounding mad hysterical. Have you ever heard of a little company called the Coca Cola company? If you really want to look at vested US interest in oversees locations, while trying to avoid oil, Coca Cola is the American company to look at. Wal-Mart is another historically bad one. But yes, most clothing companies, especially large ones, primarily operate on slave labor. It is disgusting, and why we need to ALWAYS support labor movements, whether they be domestic or international.

Unless of course, you're throwing knives by posting articles that fit your narrative, like Vambo's threads on Chicago, and don't actually care about the human beings in your story. In which case, we already knew what you were doing and what you are.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I didn't make an argument. I provided articles.
This sounds like an attack to me:

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Stop trying to attack people on these forums via articles, it makes you look just as malicious as Vambo, 40 and the other people who do it.




Nah buddy, that's called advice. I'm trying to look out for you.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
it makes you look just as malicious as Vambo, 40 and the other people who do it.


Or even worse CHSDawg! tsktsk

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