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I do not care what you think. I am simply expressing my opinion, just as you are.

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and yet you cant help but continue replying to every little thing i say.

you're about as creepy as nelson.


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Thanks for the insult. I expect no less at this point.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Thanks for the insult. I expect no less at this point.


you're welcome.


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The first letter of a sentence needs to be capitalized.

Before you twist off again.......please remember the period after the end of the #hashtag thang. LOL

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my god that was corny.


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bro, you got a stalker.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Originally Posted By: Swish
you're still rambling about?

last time i checked lying was a sin.

christians showed in alabama they were willing to vote for a freaking pedophile over a democrat. i dont wanna here crap from you about christians and values.

they've already displayed their "Values" plenty.


All you have is arguments based on associative fallacies.

It would be like if I presented this syllogism

a. John Edwards and Bill Clinton cheated on their wives.

b. John Edwards and Bill Clinton are Democrats.

c. Therefore, Democrats are guilty of cheating on their wives.

lol, THAT is how invalid your arguments are.

Cheers

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Nice sound argument in that syllogism.

But you didn’t make the right one.

The proper one would be the hypothetical syllogism, and that’s the one I’m making, which is absolutely valid.

If Christians didn’t put aside their values in 2016, then trump wouldn’t had become president.

Christians put aside their values in 2016

Therefore, trump is president.


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God I love it when people try to make arguments from a academia viewpoint.

Trying to flex your intellect only to get schooled anyway.


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Nice sound argument in that syllogism.

But you didn’t make the right one.

The proper one would be the hypothetical syllogism, and that’s the one I’m making, which is absolutely valid.

If Christians didn’t put aside their values in 2016, then trump wouldn’t had become president.

Christians put aside their values in 2016

Therefore, trump is president.


No, it's more like this.

a. If the Democrats had a decent candidate, Trump wouldn't have become president. (FACT)

b. The Democrats put out probably the worst candidate of all time.

c. Therefore, Trump became president.


The responsibility of the Trump presidency lies SQUARELY on YOUR PARTY. They put a terrible candidate out there, and we had to make sure she didn't ruin our country even more than it already is.


I stated some of the reasons why she was the worst candidate I have ever seen earlier

...and what was their other candidate? A socialist who is bigoted against evangelicals

Here's another syllogism

a. If the Democrats hadn't become so insanely disconnected from the majority of Americans, they would have won they election.

b. They became insanely disconnected fromn the majority of americans.

c. Therefore, they lost the election

It wasn't just evangelicals who voted against or abstained on Hillary Clinton.




Now THAT is a valid argument.

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Swish your just trolling and we know it. No sane or at least practising Christian would have voted for Hillary over Trump. Just stop the trolling already.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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Lol wait.

So Christians decided in the PRIMARIES to cast aside their values?

I love how you conveniently decided to stop history at the general election. How come you didn’t move further back?

You had Cruz, Rubio, kasich, Bush. Etc. All guys with strong Christian morals. Kasich and Bush weren’t certainly presidential material.

I didn’t vote in the gop primaries. Your people did. But that’s a Christian conservative for you.

Just like trump, it’s always someone else fault. Never taking responsibility for your actions(votes).


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Swish your just trolling and we know it. No sane or at least practising Christian would have voted for Hillary over Trump. Just stop the trolling already.


63milliom people voted for Hillary. You’re trying to tell me no practicing Christian voted for her?

Understand when I say Christian, I strictly talking about the conservative ones as it pertains to this topic. I have REPEATEDLY stated that since this country is 70% Christian, it is literally impossible to claim all Christians are on the left or right. It’s quite obvious that there are plenty of Christians who vote democrat, and who voted for Hillary.

I’m not trolling. I’m just making the point. But now you’re the one making generalizations.

I wonder if vers will call you out on that, or does that only apply to the minorities on the board.


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And again, y’all put aside your values in the PRIMARIES. Nobody is gonna by that whack ass excuse that it’s hillary fault you voted for trump.

Cause if it is, that says a lot more about you than it does about Hillary. And that’s really sad, guys.

I mean, really pathetic stuff right there.


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Lol wait.

So Christians decided in the PRIMARIES to cast aside their values?

I love how you conveniently decided to stop history at the general election. How come you didn’t move further back?

You had Cruz, Rubio, kasich, Bush. Etc. All guys with strong Christian morals. Kasich and Bush weren’t certainly presidential material.

I didn’t vote in the gop primaries. Your people did. But that’s a Christian conservative for you.

Just like trump, it’s always someone else fault. Never taking responsibility for your actions(votes).



Trump won the primaries the same reason Hillary did. And you know what that reason is, don't you Swish.

I voted for Ted Cruz. SO did most of the Evangelicals I know.

Evangelicals aren't the only ones that are republicans. Plus, a lot of people who say they are evangelical Christians are nominal at best.

evangelicals alone would not get you elected. If they could, Republicans would have won a lot more elections than they do.

Candidates that only have social conservatives supporting themn get blown out in presidential elections.

You know this, but are being disingenuis

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quote- 63milliom people voted for Hillary. You’re trying to tell me no practicing Christian voted for her?

If they were BIBLE BELIEVING and rightly understood the Bible, then voting for Hillary would be a much bigger compromise of values than voting for Trump. Thou shall not kill, remember. Hillary supports abortion, including PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIiON. That and other things I mentioned.

It's a compromise, sure. If I lived in WW2 and I was hiding Jews and Nazis came to my door asking if Jews were in my house, I would probably say no to save them, even though it is a iie. Even though they might come in anyways.

And the Bible has examples of this in it, if you had ever read it.

I'm sorry, but you are trying to put God in a box that HE DOES NOT FIT IN.



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I’m combing both your replies.

First, you’re right that evangelicals aren’t the only republicans.

But they make up the majority of that voting block. That’s a fact, sir.

And you’re also right, he needed more than the evangelical vote.

He needed the racist, white nationalist, and the guys who thought obama was a foreign born Muslim.and that’s who conservative Christians decided to vote side by side with.

How Christian of y’all. Lmao.

And I thought all sins were equal in the eyes of the lord? So you won’t vote for the candidate who supports abortion, but you’ll vote for the guy who cheated on all his wives? Been married 3 times?

And WHO ALSO SUPPORTED ABORTION?

Did you Christians forget that little nugget? Trump was PRO ABORTION right up until it was time to run for president.

Lol the more you post, the worse y’all look. Please keep going, keep posting so I can show how much y’all really did say “screw my Christian beliefs” and voted for trump. Lolololololololol.

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Quote-First, you’re right that evangelicals aren’t the only republicans. But they make up the majority of that voting block. That’s a fact, sir.

Fallacy. Most evangelicals are nominal at best. It's the difference between evangelical and those who call themselves evangelical.

quote- And you’re also right, he needed more than the evangelical vote. He needed the racist, white nationalist, and the guys who thought obama was a foreign born Muslim.and that’s who conservative Christians decided to vote side by side with. How Christian of y’all. Lmao.

That is an associative fallacy.

quote- And I thought all sins were equal in the eyes of the lord?

So are you saying that the people who lied to protect Jews in WW2 were just as guilty in the eyes of God as the Nazi's who killed the Jews. Lying and murder are both sin. Yet God does not only look at the action, but also the intent. You shouldn't try to talk about a document that you know next to nothing about. Rahab is commended in Hebrews for basically lying. Because of the INTENT of the action

David took showbread which was unlawful for him to take to save the lives of his men and himself. Yet God did not hold him guilty. The disciples of Jesus plucked corn on the Sabbath, to eat, which was unlawful, and Jesus said they were guiltless. You are putting God in a box that He does not fit in.

Quote So you vote for the candidate who supports abortion, but you’ll vote for the guy who cheated on all his wives? Been married 3 times?

The same way I would hire a plumber who may have done the same thing in his past.

quote= And WHO ALSO SUPPORTED ABORTION?Did you Christians forget that little nugget? Trump was PRO ABORTION right up until it was time to run for president.

Did he flip flop and go back to being pro abortion? And is he for the abomination of partial birth abortion?

Quote Lol the more you post, the worse y’all look. Please keep going, keep posting so I can show how much y’all really did say “screw my Christian beliefs” and voted for trump. Lolololololololol.

I didn't vote for Trump, but was very happy when he got elected because it kept a much worse candidate out.

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Please format your post correctly. It’s as much of an eye sore as your actual comments.

Your whole post, you know what a read? A whole bunch of excuses. You didn’t actually refute anything except the part about sins being equal.

Yea I’m saying that because that’s what OTHER Christians have said. It’s odd because it’s starting to seem like it’s you who don’t understand he text you claim to follow. Other Christians, including one or two on this very board, have stated that sins are equal in the eyes of the lord.

Your peeps voted for a pro abortion president who only claimed to be anti abortion cause he needed your gullible people to vote for him

And they did. All you’re doing is making excuses. We have nothing else to discuss. It’s sunday, shouldn’t you be in church? Bye.


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SO you're saying that the people who lied to save lives from Nazi's in world war 2 had the same guilt as the ones who were killing the Jews?

Nice moral compass there, Swish.

Because you don't know what you're talking about and showed it by taking the bait.

The scenario I presented about hiding Jews WOULD NOT EVEN BE A SIN. But you didn't know it, because you don't know what you're talking about.

If someone wanted to kill you, and I hid you, according to you, it would be a sin.

Hiding someone is a form of deception. But not a sin.

Just like it is not a sin for spies to be incognito, which also is a form of deception but not a sin..

Plus, it does not matter what other Christians say. Jesus said "whoever breaks one of these LEAST commandments..." OOPS on you

Breaking a command is a sin, so breaking a greater command is greater sin than breaking a lesser command.

That's why there were DEGREES of punishment under the Law of Moses

Anyways, many evangelicals did abstain from voting for Trump, including myself.

Stop talking about stuff you don't know unless you,re open to correction.


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now you're claiming you set some bait?

is that some more of those christian values on display by you? lolololol.

go away, part timer.


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When the post starts with 'so many saying'... why even bother replying? You are arguing against Trump mush, not intellect.


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now you're claiming you set some bait?

is that some more of those christian values on display by you? lolololol.

go away, part timer.


No commandment in the Bible against baiting questions. And I'm not at church because I am sick, and don't want to share it. Do not judge according to appearances, but judge righteous judgement


Otherwise, I am in church whenever the doors are open for the most part

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now you're claiming you set some bait?

is that some more of those christian values on display by you? lolololol.

go away, part timer.


No commandment in the Bible against baiting questions. And I'm not at church because I am sick, and don't want to share it. Do not judge according to appearances, but judge righteous judgement


Otherwise, I am in church whenever the doors are open for the most part


Psalm 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.

that took about 2 seconds to look up. it actually took longer to post it.


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When the post starts with 'so many saying'... why even bother replying? You are arguing against Trump mush, not intellect.


yea, im officially done with him. he can do as he please. my point has been thoroughly made.


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When the post starts with 'so many saying'... why even bother replying? You are arguing against Trump mush, not intellect.


If you are referring to me, maybe you need your reading glasses. I said "so you are saying", not so many saying.

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now you're claiming you set some bait?

is that some more of those christian values on display by you? lolololol.

go away, part timer.


No commandment in the Bible against baiting questions. And I'm not at church because I am sick, and don't want to share it. Do not judge according to appearances, but judge righteous judgement


Otherwise, I am in church whenever the doors are open for the most part


Psalm 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.

that took about 2 seconds to look up. it actually took longer to post it.


Do you even know what deceit means?

No deceit in the question. How is it deceitful when everything I said in the bait queston ws true. Plus, for anyone who knew anything about what we are talking about, it would have immediately been interpreted as a RHETORICAL QUESTION. But you are so confused that you answered what was clearly a rhetorical question.

I mean, who in their right mind would think that the scenario I gave would be a sin. A sin to protect life? SMH and LOL

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