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Tyrod played well enough, to win I feel,

The movement of the 2 minute offense when it was working was like a breath of fresh air to watch.

There was a stretch midway through the 4th quarter where the announcers said he had missed on 5 straight passes, and he missed his next one or two. I hope the offense figures out a way to work on that going forward.

despite some inaccuracies, I don't think he threw any int's today, and it looked like the Browns had a seasoned vet out there,

and his rushing ability kept drives alive.
and he Ran for a score.

IMO he was not good enough. You can't underthrow those big plays ... and you can't hold the ball that long. I know he wants to protect the ball, but not to a detriment.

Not saying I want Baker, but TT isn't the future (obviously)

Time for Baker.

I might have been Bakers biggest supporter and cheerleader on this board before the draft, (along with device, others)

But it's not even close.

and last action, I think it was pretty obvious, painfully obvious it would be if you sent him out there before ready

Tyrod looks like a veteran starter.
Browns haven't had much look like that since/except Dilfer, maybe Garcia, in a long time.

I agree with this.

I'm happy enough with what I saw from Taylor under the circumstances. New team, new system and miserable conditions to be throwing a football. It's a recipe for disaster, yet Taylor still snuck in 2 TD and 274 yards with only one turnover.

The underthrows were frustrating, but I'm encouraged at he was just underthrowing plays that were there to make as opposed to forcing the ball when plays were not there. I'd expect underthrows/overthrows due to the lack of chemistry. Add that on top of the weather, which even had Roethlisberger a little wild out there, and it's understandable. The plays are there to be made, and he's seeing it, he just has to get on the same page as his receivers.

I'm not throwing in the towel on Taylor, and I'm sure not rushing the rookie quarterback in this soon. It was an ugly performance, but we've seen a lot uglier in even idyllic conditions.

I will say I appreciate his heart and effort on the scramble plays, but I was, in an overall manner, disappointed.

But, the weather was really bad. Some of them underthrows could likely have been a result of the weather.

He seem to settle down because the first quarter, outside his runs, were horrible.

I don't know....Tyrod displayed all the qualities they disliked in Buffalo.

We had 32 seconds on the clock and needed 15 yrds to get into FG range...then he decides to throw a deep ball and turns it over...I think he should have worked the sideline...that was a huge mistake!

I understand there were alot of mitigating circumstances in the game but I expected much more from Taylor.

TT did not play well enough to win.

the steelers literally tried to hand us the game. our defense literally tried to hand us the game.

i understand comparing TT to big ben isn't fair in any aspect, but Ben was also throwing in the rain too.

what sucks the most about today's game is that TT came from being a 3 year starter in buffalo for christ sake. he KNOWS how to play in bad weather and has been successful doing exactly that.

also, we all know he has a strong arm, a border line cannon. so its really mind boggling why pretty much every throw he made was underthrown.

now that could be a mixture of things, but most of it is pretty much bad. top two reasons for underthrows

1. late reads
2. not trusting his arm in the weather.

its funny too, because a lot of people are saying gordon looked slower. how sad is it that "slow" gordon still burns everybody on the field?

i think everyone of us on this board can tolerate over throws to a point. but underthrows? unintentional at that? is wasn't like he was Watson killing it with back shoulder passes or something. they were legit being under thrown like he was Colt McCoy out there.

i'm a supporter of TT, so right now, im going to try and chalk it up to just a bad day on offense, cause NOBODY really looked good except Juice. overall, we didn't execute well on offense. so lets really hope this was just the first game, first time being out here with this group kinda thing.

i expect a way better performance from TT next week. TT isn't the kind of guy to toss 350 a pop, we all get that, but under 40% accuracy and under throws is straight up BS.

If he has a bad game against the saints inside the dome....its time to start Baker week 3.

TT has a border line cannon ... ...

I’ll go finish reading now ...

--TT does not have a strong arm.

--TT played like he normally does. A couple of us tried telling the rest of you this a long time ago.

--A QB controversy could derail this young team.

--Gordon was not getting separation. It was just as wet for the DBs as it was for JG. But man, that was a helluva catch.

few ounces short in black powder of a canon...

I do think he showed better in the second half..

in the first half i was wanting baker

I think that Taylor could not make the throws he needed to in the conditions in which we played. We aren't going to play in conditions like this every week.

I also felt that the team struggled with a large degree of unfamiliarity. As I said before the game, it's hard for a team to have 7 or 8 new starters on offense, and look like a well oiled machine.

We had issues, like Chubb's missed block, and other plays, that hurt us. We also had a QB who is not able to slice through the crap elements in which we played. This could be a problem when winter hits, or he could adjustments by then.

I felt that he held the ball way, way too long. The OL was not perfect, but there were times where he got himself into trouble by waiting, waiting, waiting .....

He has to see and release more quickly than today.

There were some good things, especially on defense ..... but a lot to work on on offense.

You tacked this on the end almost like an afterthought.. but if TT doesn't run the ball the way he did today, and we had to rely on his passing, we are having a much different conversation because we would have lost by 2 TDs...

I am not buying the weather excuse. It wasn't that bad. Rain is actually an advantage for the O.

I do buy the lack of familiarity excuse. It's not even an excuse. It's real.. It's also a problem for us.

While I was very underwhelmed with Taylor, panicking when faced with adversity has been a hallmark of this organization. We can't switch QBs after one week. If this kind of play continues? Mayfield will be on the field.

Lack of familiarity killed our offense today and produced questionable over familiarity. The playcalling was generic. Duke Johnson was turned into a 3rd down back who got draw plays on 3rd and long instead of being used as a RB who can play slot WR. Landry started to run a lot of drag routes, instead of being used as a sure handed WR who can run the complete route tree. To Tyrod's issues specifically.

He is who we thought he was. Throws a lot of short and intermediate routes, but mainly short routes. Looks to run too much, but since he can run, it's not a "problem" in terms of moving the chains. Relies on a few playmakers, and it showed with him, Landry, Hyde, Higgins and Njoku seemed like they led the team in targets. Not surprisingly they were all members of the Miami group, the players who did the hype video and workouts in south Florida. I really hope that they start working as a team soon.

The weather conditions were bad, but not bad enough to lose the game.

I was an advocate for Tyrod. But we need a passer, not a runner. If he doesn't improve, Mayfield will be in sooner than later. 15-40 won't win you many games, as we saw today.

That is obviously way below where he normally is. Also, Taylor's legs kept us alive multiple times.

I can't recall one time he stood in the pocket to deliver a pass. I recall several times where he needed to step up in the pocket only to be sacked or to take off running. Granted the weather wasnt the greatest, so I'm not going to get too carried away... But he needs to be better.

I'm always okay with trying to WIN the game ... but his throws when it mattered were detrimental and cost us a chance

I don't recall him making too many GOOD throws from the pocket

Can we change his name to Tie-rod Taylor?

A Tyrone advocate, huh?

j/c

I like the way TT runs, we should move him to the slot.

J/C

If I wasn't a Browns fan and someone told me they drafted a rookie QB this year and I watched that game, I'd have said, "He showed some flashes for a rookie, but he held the ball too long and looked a little shaky in the pocket at times." I would have then be shocked to learn that the QB I saw was the veteran QB brought in.

I'm not saying that Mayfield would have done better or that he should be starting. I usually have the "one more game just to make sure" mentality. That being said, if yesterday is what's going to happen on a regular basis, I would have no problem with or zero reason not to start Mayfield at some point.

He didn't look good.
Opening day nerves, crap weather and the fact I'm in no hurry for Baker to play full time means I give TT a pass. See what he does under different conditions.

Weather had to play a factor, but TT wouldn't admit that I'm sure.

Not to mention that Pitt has a stout D. You'll note that Ben didn't fare a whole lot better.

Two major things give him a pass.

1) New everything for this offense.
2) He wasn't the worst QB on the field. Big Ben was worse.

j/c:


https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1038979879398789120

Tyrod played the way I expected him to play - just a little worse but I am hoping it was simply a bad day in the office and we'll see some improvement game 2. Anyone who talked to a Bills fan about TT would have been given the exact description of the game he played yesterday.

Noticeably he really held the ball way too long - for people criticizing Baker in Pre-season for this, TT held the ball longer and more often than BM did. I don't know if that's because the WR's were not open - or because TT lacks the anticipation to throw them open (which is one of BM's attributes). . . I don't see an issue with his arm strength so much as accuracy. Yes he did under-throw receivers who would have had a 50-50 chance with a better thrown ball (or in one case JG had at least 1/2 a step on the outside of a guy).

I am a fan of Baker and one of the few to want to draft him - but it's wayyy too soon to think about giving up on TT. Let's see how he plays over the next 2 games and then review.

it seemed like he had time to be honest. just didn't (and doesn't) want to risk it. Tie-Rod.

He left me frustrated. Holding the ball and taking sacks with indecision is something we have seen before. Route depth, protection, throwing over the middle, getting some PI calls (thanks refs!) would have helped the cause. Pretty mediocre TT today IMO. Not all him either. Hats off to defense! Week of Shame for the O. The STs should have a few things to do before Sunday.

Why is it our OC ignored the middle of the field so? "Forced" the ball to Gordon late with an underthrow multiple times. Gordon inside is probably a completion. Let's put in somebody for Njoku who can catch. I did not expect much more out of TT; I did expect more from the myopic OC.

I don't think the play calling was a problem.

You seldom do. I rely too much on hindsight. I do believe there were better options, but individuals need to win more wars. I was pleased not having Hue call the game and felt it was better. Defense achieved more than I thought they would; offense less. So I am not the technician. I hate ties.

13-40 with MULTIPLE underthrown and missed receivers. I think we tied the game IN SPITE of TT.

If i am not mistaken it was a total of 8 or 9 passes. And a lot of those were not on the offense, but TT.

He threw one, and 35% completion rate is not SOME inaccuracies. Ill give him the benefit cause of the weather, but lets be realistic.

Maybe, but he has played in bad weather his whole career.

There is a reason why Buf let him go and benched him last year during a playoff run....games like yesterday.

He is gunshy, afraid to throw the ball, and when he does he is lackluster.

Not trying to beat up on him, i still want him starting don't get me wrong.... I just know what he is.

He will give you about 200 - 250 yards a game, and maybe 1 td.

He is not going to win you a game....and her certainly didn't do us any favors.

Njoku is too much of a physical specimen to be on the sideline. Yes he needs to improve his hands and is inconsistent. But he is very young and needs time. He also took a shot early, and that could have effected his play yesterday. He seemed by all accounts this preseason to be taking a big step.

I am not giving on up on him yet.

Im surprised the refs didn't call a foul on the play. I thought it was clearly helmet-to-helmet on a defenseless receiver.

I honestly expected a much better gameplan from Haley. No OC knows the Stealers D better than him...

I think we should have been challenging the DB's more..their secondary is not that good.

Don't think Run,Pass,Pass Punt is that of good strategy, no screen's,etc...

Our D gave way too much yards... Turnovers are good,but not all games are going to be in this conditions...

All and All, like last Years it was the Stealers that played a bad game, we had some good takeaways like Ward,MG and Landry, but IMHO that was it.

Our Lb's are not that good and it shows...

Are you freaking serious??? He tossed Turds all game long. He isnt a QB. He led to 3 count them 3 three and outs in overtime. He has no business even being on the field. He is a nice guy, he has been great for showing baker what to do off the field but he is horrible. You will not win games because of anything he does. It is why the Bills wanted him gone.

this wasnt even a below average performance, it was freaking putrid. He had single coverage all game long. he tried to be a stat ho but was so inaccurate, he couldnt even do that.

This is a guy that got all the reps with the ones in training camp and preseason. I am sorry but the excuses for this turdfest is absurd. He is horrible he had guys open all game long and he was afraid to throw it. the pick to Gordon shows why he isnt a QB, receiver has a good step and its so underthrown Gordon is coming back trying to break it up.

Tyrod Taylor will get Hue fired.