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Cap , seems to me we ran a bunch two tight end sets to help out the crappy OL play ?? Whom ever thought Fells is a blocking TE is just a wee bit off the mark. yes, Fells was pretty bad yesterday ... and so was Charles (watch him on the FG attempt IIRC)
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j/c:
After having some time to put things in perspective, I am more positive about this team than before the game.
We went up against perhaps the most talented offense in the entire NFL. They were 13 and 3 last year. They are 3rd or 4th in regards to Super Bowl favorites. And the Browns held their own. We didn't lose. We showed we belong.
I know a lot of people have scoffed at this notion the last few years, but it's hard to overcome losing in such epic proportions. This team is going to have to learn how to win. It's the next step.
We were not outclassed on the field yesterday. The talent levels looked to be even. In the past, it was always evident that we were inferior in terms of talent.
We finally have some impact players. Guys who can change the game. Ward, Myles, Juice, and perhaps Gordon are those types of players. Our overall team speed is much better.
We have some holes and this is a process, but I feel that we have a very good coaching staff and the makings of a good roster.
We just need to win a couple of close games to help get this thing turned around. Winning--and losing--is contagious. I am more positive about this team than I have been in a long, long time. Sounds like someone’s ready for at least the wading pool ... should i let whip know to come get u ...  ... I really wish it was a good day weather wise bro ... next week conditions will be ideal ... better game to get a gauge ... And i agree with your take somewhere on the board ... *L* .... this is no longer a trap game for NO ... yesterday was the worst possible outcome we could have gotten ... not only did they lose but there D WAS EMBERRASED ... talk about motivated ... 
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Having impact players is a very good sign. Our future could be bright if Baker is good.
Man, Ward was so impressive. Even on the TD he gave up to AB, he had perfect coverage and swatted at the ball a couple of times. This guy is going to be a stud. A difference maker. Same thing w/Myles. Juice is an impact player and Josh could be if he keeps his head out of his ass.
I am a bit miffed at all the negativity from certain posters after this game. We weren't playing the Bills. We were playing the Steelers, who are an NFL powerhouse.
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I loved Arians in the booth "he was wide ___ open"
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Having impact players is a very good sign. Our future could be bright if Baker is good.
Man, Ward was so impressive. Even on the TD he gave up to AB, he had perfect coverage and swatted at the ball a couple of times. This guy is going to be a stud. A difference maker. Same thing w/Myles. Juice is an impact player and Josh could be if he keeps his head out of his ass.
I am a bit miffed at all the negativity from certain posters after this game. We weren't playing the Bills. We were playing the Steelers, who are an NFL powerhouse. Well, frankly we had some bright spots but for every bright spot its just as overshadowed. Turnovers were awesome - how much did the weather play into that? How much did Ben not playing in the preseason play into that? Pitt plays slow the first cpl games every year. Ill give our WR a break because of the weather, but I am going to have to see some better opportunities of guys getting open. Steelers secondary is NOT good. No way should we have been blanketed like we were all game. TT looked lost. You eluded to he has games like this, and I have watched a good deal of Bills games to know he does as well. It truly was frustrating watching so many balls underthrown. Gordon had a step I believe 2 or 3 times that we just missed him. I believe there was a ball thrown to Jarvis as well that was a TD he had to stop and come back to get. Maybe it was Higgins or both, I was too frustrated to remember. Run D was pathetic. Pitt has a great oline, but man - to give up 130+ yards and 2 Td to a backup RB....not good. I am worried about bout our run d. I am starting to think our run d last year was only decent because every team knew they can whip the ball around against our Corners. Peppers - man, does he disappoint. The big play to Ju-Ju that setup a score, he slipped. Bad weather, ok. but when he got up after he slipped, he took a HORRIBLE angle, which has been his MO since we got him. He was wayyyyy of the line again as well, do out CB still stink Greg? Now to coaching. I don't know what there is to be happy about. Haley had some questionable play calls to say the least, but Haley always does. Time management was another issue with Hue - I know you love him. But there is not way in HECK at halftime you should be running into the tunnel with time clicking off when you are down and have 2 timeouts. INEXCUSABLE. Then to end regulation, we let them a HOF Qb and the best WR in the game get a chance at a Hail Mary with 9 second left. We had the ball. We had control of the clock. we gave them 9 seconds. INEXCUSABLE. ST snap count. I read today that the Browns never changed the snap count on a single ST play. Pitt keyed on this, and that's how they got the jump they did to block the kick. Change the snap count there, they are offside and we get 5 yards. INEXCUSABLE I think Arians holds a little more weight in the coaching department that Hue, and he multiple times called out some bad decisions by Hue and the staff. These are not one time things either. These are issues that have plagued this coaching staff since they got here. I guess "we just gotta clean that up, and we will" smh.
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You are making things up.
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You are making things up. care to elaborate.... because that's exactly what I saw during the game. AS did others. 1-32-1. My signature holds true to hue. I guess that is acceptable to some.
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Nope. I'm done talking to you.
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Nope. I'm done talking to you. hahahhahahaha. Man, for someone with great football knowledge - you really cant tell hes over his head on the sideline can you? Honestly, are you just so stubborn to admit you are wrong on him, or do you actually think he can learn how to call a timeout at halftime. . . .asking for a friend.
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j/c: I do not like this guy as a analyst or reporter, but he's not wrong here. These are things that have remained consistent with this team. The lack of attention to detail remains dumbfounding with #Browns. It showed yesterday with Gordon starting, penalties, lack of awareness in all 3 phases & the final FG. These are things that do not keep a coaching staff employed. I don't agree with the last point about employment, but these issues are the same issues DURING the game that we've seen time and time again. People need to start accepting that this may be part of what we have. If other parts work out well, great. But I think this is always going to be a problem. Take the good with the bad.
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I completely agree. And I have given hue credit where credit is due. Some are just too blind with their own ego to see that.
Hue is a great motivator. He has kept these guys playing for him when there has been little to play for. I give him that.
Hue is a great man, personally. He truly loves his team, and truly loves football. I give him that.
But over and over and over, the same issues for now the third straight year are happening. You would think they would have "cleaned it up" by now. Young teams need to learn how to win. We saw yesterday, that Hue is
coming out a game with a +5 TO ratio and not getting a win - is completely on the HC and UNACCEPTABLE.
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Did Calloway even see the field ??
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I saw him out there a few times. But you have to remember he is splitting time w/ Higgins as the #3. Hes not going to be much a factor, especially if Higgins keeps progressing like he is.
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I'm disappointed that they didn't throw to Gordon more. He had plenty of 1-1 iso coverage and just throwing it up to him is better than nothing.
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Since the clock was running, does anyone know what would have happened if the Browns had committed a penalty on the final FG attempt?
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Then to end regulation, we let them a HOF Qb and the best WR in the game get a chance at a Hail Mary with 9 second left. We had the ball. We had control of the clock. we gave them 9 seconds. INEXCUSABLE. I think this is a bad take that I keep hearing from people. We had no time-outs and it was third down. If we run it down to 3 seconds and get a false-start, there is a 10 second run-off and we lose the game. If there is a bad snap, we can throw the ball away and get a second crack at kicking a field goal again.
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Then to end regulation, we let them a HOF Qb and the best WR in the game get a chance at a Hail Mary with 9 second left. We had the ball. We had control of the clock. we gave them 9 seconds. INEXCUSABLE. I think this is a bad take that I keep hearing from people. We had no time-outs and it was third down. If we run it down to 3 seconds and get a false-start, there is a 10 second run-off and we lose the game. If there is a bad snap, we can throw the ball away and get a second crack at kicking a field goal again. I'm missing something, how do we lose the game? Are taking regulation or OT?
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Sorry, we TIE the game and it's over. 
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Then to end regulation, we let them a HOF Qb and the best WR in the game get a chance at a Hail Mary with 9 second left. We had the ball. We had control of the clock. we gave them 9 seconds. INEXCUSABLE. I think this is a bad take that I keep hearing from people. We had no time-outs and it was third down. If we run it down to 3 seconds and get a false-start, there is a 10 second run-off and we lose the game. If there is a bad snap, we can throw the ball away and get a second crack at kicking a field goal again. Every other team in the league would have done this. Bruce Arians even called them out for it. Coaching a game based on the FACT that you are going to have a penalty, is a bad take and tells me all I need to know about the preparedness of this team. Does it not? I mean you are literally saying that hue believes we are so undisciplined that we are going to have a false start...at home....to end the game.
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I mean you are literally saying that hue believes we are so undisciplined that we are going to have a false start...at home....to end the game. You are a Browns fan, right? At this point, that scenario is almost more likely than the Browns nailing a game-winner. At any rate, it's not just a false start. It's the bad-snap too. You get a bad snap, the holder can just pick it up and throw it at the feet of a tight end. You get one more down, and another try at the field goal.
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I can't believe Jarvis Landry had over 100 yards. I saw his statline on the bottomline of the redzone channel and was legit shocked. He didn't seem like he had that many yards while watching the game. I'm shocked the passing game in general had over 100 yards. It seemed like Taylor got into more of a rhythm towards the end of the game. He got like 40% of the targets or something. Hate how Landry is just used as a dump off guy during the game. Let him break some ankles past the line of scrimmage, not before it.
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Read today Joe Haden getting a MRI for his hamstring injury. Guy can't stay healthy still, I see.
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Sorry, we TIE the game and it's over. Ok. That's my thought even if we did have a false start with 3 seconds. It's a tie, the game is over, and the Steelers don't get the chance at a play or two.
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i didnt realize how much Njoku played ... that's a bad sign that he had THAT little impact (positively) and played that much
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Thanks for pointing that out. And it's why I asked the question a bit ago.
Can you imagine the uproar had we committed a penalty under 10 seconds?
I also do not get why anyone needs blamed for Josh Gordon starting? Who cares what Hue said to the media about him not starting? Josh Gordon is one of our two best receivers.
I am also not getting the end of the half criticism?
Pick, pick, pick.
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j/c: #Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon was supposedly going to be on a pitch count in the opener, but he played 69 of the offense's 89 snaps (78 percent). Aside from QB & OL, WR Jarvis Landry (81 snaps) & TE David Njoku (78 snaps) were only players on offense with more snaps than JG. It seems to me your saying it like its a bad thing ... Do u think thats a bad thing? If so, Why?
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I also do not get why anyone needs blamed for Josh Gordon starting?
Ask Hue, he's the one doing the blaming....
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I'm really curious to see the separation our WRs had (or didn't have)
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Does anyone know of a site that has the play-by-play of the game? I want to review the actual plays on our last possession before halftime before I make a comment. I want to make sure I am accurate.
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Nfl.com ... i’ll Go grab u the link .. gimme me 1 minute and 53 seconds ... *L* ... brb
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Link to our game play by play ...
Link wont highlight and its destroyed the thread for me .. can barely read the type .. *L* ..
Go to nfl.com ... scores ... our Game Center ... analyze .. it’ll be a tab there ...
Here’s the last two possessions of the half ...
Pittsburgh Steelers at 02:33
1-10-PIT 9
(2:33) (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short left to 84-A.Brown to PIT 20 for 11 yards (39-T.Mitchell).
1-10-PIT 20
(2:06) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short right to 30-J.Conner to PIT 35 for
15 yards (53-J.Schobert; 22-J.Peppers).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-PIT 35
(1:58) (Shotgun) 30-J.Conner right guard to PIT 47 for 12 yards (22-J.Peppers).
1-10-PIT 47
(1:25) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 30-J.Conner left guard to CLE 45 for 8 yards (20-B.Boddy-Calhoun).
2-2-CLE 45
(1:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short left to 19-J.Smith-Schuster to CLE 37 for 8 yards (51-J.Collins).
Timeout #2 by PIT at 00:55.
1-10-CLE 37
(:55) (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass incomplete deep left to 84-A.Brown.
2-10-CLE 37
(:51) (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass short right intended for 81-J.James INTERCEPTED by 21-D.Ward at CLE 29. 21-D.Ward to PIT 45 for 26 yards (81-J.James).
Cleveland Browns at 00:42
1-10-PIT 45
(:42) (Shotgun) 29-D.Johnson left end to CLE 49 for -6 yards (48-B.Dupree).
Timeout #1 by CLE at 00:37.
2-16-CLE 49
(:37) (Shotgun) 5-T.Taylor sacked at CLE 41 for -8 yards (48-B.Dupree). FUMBLES (48-B.Dupree) [48-B.Dupree], recovered by CLE-75-J.Bitonio at CLE 41. 75-J.Bitonio to CLE 41 for no gain (98-V.Williams).
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I remember that side to side play by Duke on 1st down ... just SO, SO dumb.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c: #Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon was supposedly going to be on a pitch count in the opener, but he played 69 of the offense's 89 snaps (78 percent). Aside from QB & OL, WR Jarvis Landry (81 snaps) & TE David Njoku (78 snaps) were only players on offense with more snaps than JG. It seems to me your saying it like its a bad thing ... Do u think thats a bad thing? If so, Why? I'm not saying anything one way or another. I am posting a few tweets regarding snaps counts from a beat writer. And no I don't think it is a bad thing.
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Ty sir ... 
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Since you are on top of this and I'm Old and Lazy ( see how I use that old thing there ) how many play did we use a double TE set ..
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I’m thankful for the nonloss. This pretty much sums up my thoughts...
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The Browns ending their losing streak.. by not winning.. is The most Browns thing ever.
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Since you are on top of this and I'm Old and Lazy ( see how I use that old thing there ) how many play did we use a double TE set .. i'll try to find it..
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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BTW, I think TJ Watt is really good. So disruptive. That's a keeper for them
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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