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Haus #1506190 09/13/18 10:17 AM
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A drag route is a short route that goes straight up the field, then cuts 90 degrees towards the middle of the field. (at least as far as I know)


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I think the other description nailed it - it's basically a route across and behind the LOS - maybe 2-4 yards deep. It's not a slant or an in - where the receiver heads vertically at any point and cuts in at an angle or at 90 degrees, he receiver just peels across right out of his stance.


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I gotta say... very impressive. Ward was true lock down at OSU and I bet it was just extra easy for him. I cannot wait for him to develop better technique and intelligence, he's going to again be a true lock down here in the NFL:


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He's a rookie CB, he's not going to get 2 picks/game for the rest of the year.

True, he should improve as the year goes on.. not sure what a decent expectation would be this year.. 16x2=32.. + 7 as he gains experience.. I'll say 39.. though 40 would be a nice round number.


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He should learn to get a few sacks too. Otherwise, complete bust

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Every coach has their own tree. DRAG route is pretty much indication that the route is to continue across the field. It could be a 5 yard drag, 2 yard drag, as opposed to an In or a Dig route.

My term of Drag routed usually was an indication of a play in the End Zone and I would have a X Drag, Y 7 (Fade) and a Z 2 (short slant)

Noted as left to right...Y right - (TE right) Fake FB Play action: Drag, 7, 2, 4Back 1 (flat)

But a drag would indicate the extension of the pattern to cross the entire field. You can state 2 drag which is a 3 yard depth...or a 6 drag which is 10 yards. Of course I'm sure in the pros the depth of routes are noted in the route tree which is a lot more descriptive than HS or College.


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I'm not knocking you, but can you elaborate on the the technique and intelligence points? I see both of those as major strengths in his game.

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He's a rookie CB, he's not going to get 2 picks/game for the rest of the year.

True, he should improve as the year goes on.. not sure what a decent expectation would be this year.. 16x2=32.. + 7 as he gains experience.. I'll say 39.. though 40 would be a nice round number.


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Originally Posted By: eotab
Every coach has their own tree. DRAG route is pretty much indication that the route is to continue across the field. It could be a 5 yard drag, 2 yard drag, as opposed to an In or a Dig route.

My term of Drag routed usually was an indication of a play in the End Zone and I would have a X Drag, Y 7 (Fade) and a Z 2 (short slant)

Noted as left to right...Y right - (TE right) Fake FB Play action: Drag, 7, 2, 4Back 1 (flat)

But a drag would indicate the extension of the pattern to cross the entire field. You can state 2 drag which is a 3 yard depth...or a 6 drag which is 10 yards. Of course I'm sure in the pros the depth of routes are noted in the route tree which is a lot more descriptive than HS or College.


Any chance u can translate that for .. well at least me ... *L* ..




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
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He's a rookie CB, he's not going to get 2 picks/game for the rest of the year.

True, he should improve as the year goes on.. not sure what a decent expectation would be this year.. 16x2=32.. + 7 as he gains experience.. I'll say 39.. though 40 would be a nice round number.


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It all language that gets include in the play call.

Lay man and easy not to confuse as Pro play book is way way more advanced.

X = Left WR
Z = Right WR
Y = TE
S = Slot
3 = FB
4 = RB
HB = 2nd TE usually in Backfield
Motions
Zip motion = WR coming across the field in fast speed.
This is what you hear from talk on getting a new OC the biggest change is they all got to learn a new LANGUAGE.

Well then you got the tree
Again every coach has their own tree.

My Odd numbers going OUT and Even numbers going in.
1 - Short Out 2 - Short In or slant depends which you want me it was a slant.
3 - Curl out 4 - Curl In
5 - Deep out 6 - Deep in
7 - Corner 8 - Post
9 - Fly/Go 0 - Bubble screen Quick hit

Then you got verbal names. skinny post, Drag, Digg, Slugo (slant and then Go), Wheel,

This is all language Waggle, Wiggle, coaches all got their meanings in it. PLAY CALL will describe the play with language.

For routes they usually go left to right First you have to state Y right or left or S right or left. Then go by the eligible WRs except for the RB or FB and you end with 4B swing or 3B screen left. Then there actually are descriptions of the RB routes. You make plays from there.

Example. Y left (TE left) Bunch Right (X, Z WR off and S in the middle of the two so that you got 3WR on the right) Z Zip motion left 2, 1, 2, 8 4B swing right. The first number is for the Zip motion who ends up outside the TE when the ball get snapped, he is doing a slant. TE is doing a short out. Almost always that TE is open. then you got the X WR doing a Slant (2) and the Slot doing a post (8) and the RB usually chip blocks the right DE and continues out in a swing pattern.

This is a play The route Tree is usually the numerical value put to routes.

Tree cause 9 straight up the middle and then 1-7 branching out the outside, and 2-8 branching out on the inside. That looks like a tree. ergo Tree.

Ehhh hard via message board. If I had you in a classroom with a chalk board. lol laugh


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Alrighty then. You got that, Diam Lol

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That's a very good explanation.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I'm not knocking you, but can you elaborate on the the technique and intelligence points? I see both of those as major strengths in his game.


Little things that will help him disengage from people. Better jam at the line without relying on his speed to make up for a mistake. Not necessarily on the AB TD, his time at OSU included, but learn how to turn around/turn his back and play the ball as opposed to play the wr. Play with more contact without getting thrown off, again relying on his burst to make up for. Etc, nothing hardcore.

All this will come from practice, live game reps/situations and etc. I by no means meant to indicate he is lacking or is horrible in them. I already knew the player we drafted because I'm an OSU fan big time. I meant it more so "expect even better from an already seemingly good product"

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The word u used that gives him the chance to be really really special is BURST ... that BURST can make up for MANY MANY MANY shortcomings and mistakes ...

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Thanks tabber ... i enjoyed the english version much better ... it sure helps when u an understand sumptin ... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
The word u used that gives him the chance to be really really special is BURST ... that BURST can make up for MANY MANY MANY shortcomings and mistakes ...

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My point is when you use that burst/athleticism for NOT making up for a mistake, oh man... big plays.

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The word u used that gives him the chance to be really really special is BURST ... that BURST can make up for MANY MANY MANY shortcomings and mistakes ...

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My point is when you use that burst/athleticism for NOT making up for a mistake, oh man... big plays.


Works for me ... thats even a better use than making up for mistakes ...

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
I gotta say... very impressive. Ward was true lock down at OSU and I bet it was just extra easy for him. I cannot wait for him to develop better technique and intelligence, he's going to again be a true lock down here in the NFL:

Hey Vers , look at the tackle Ward makes at around 1:55, this what GW means by cutting a receiver rather than taking the guy on and getting hurt.


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Every coach has their own tree. DRAG route is pretty much indication that the route is to continue across the field. It could be a 5 yard drag, 2 yard drag, as opposed to an In or a Dig route.

My term of Drag routed usually was an indication of a play in the End Zone and I would have a X Drag, Y 7 (Fade) and a Z 2 (short slant)

Noted as left to right...Y right - (TE right) Fake FB Play action: Drag, 7, 2, 4Back 1 (flat)

But a drag would indicate the extension of the pattern to cross the entire field. You can state 2 drag which is a 3 yard depth...or a 6 drag which is 10 yards. Of course I'm sure in the pros the depth of routes are noted in the route tree which is a lot more descriptive than HS or College.


Any chance u can translate that for .. well at least me ... *L* ..



Drag Route - Run your route across the field instead of towards the closer sideline.

X, Y and Z refer to the receivers on the field. Usually the TE is the Y (there are exceptions) and the X and Z are the outside guys. With the X lining up on the weak side, and Z on the strong side (the side the TE lines up on)

The rest he typed out in parentheses.

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I explained the drag route, like, 22 posts ago, but not the route tree number.


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Alright, I was the one who asked the drag route question. I knew the damn answer. I was just trying to get people to think about exactly how many times Ward defended AB on the "drag" route, since it was mentioned so many times. LOL I remember two. It was not all day.

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Ward was named Pepsi rookie of the week, over an alright/toeven good rookie QB Sam Darnold performance. Great job guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-cb-denzel-ward-named-pepsi-nfl-rookie-of-the-week

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Ward was named Pepsi rookie of the week, over an alright/toeven good rookie QB Sam Darnold performance. Great job guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-cb-denzel-ward-named-pepsi-nfl-rookie-of-the-week


I voted for him once. I heard he won by one vote. You're welcome Denzel Ward.

(Also, this is very cool for one of our players to win. Our last winner was Corey Coleman in week two of 2016 when he had five catches for 106 yards and 2 TDs. Before that we hasn't had a winner since Trent Richardson in week two of 2012.)

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he deserved it and watching him at Ohio State I'm not surprised thumbsup


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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
Ward was named Pepsi rookie of the week, over an alright/toeven good rookie QB Sam Darnold performance. Great job guys!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-cb-denzel-ward-named-pepsi-nfl-rookie-of-the-week


I was just gonna post this story, I'm happy for him. This is a good example why after I log onto this site I just click 'like' to certain posts, I'm often too late to the party! tongue

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good for him!


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I hope we give darnold some real headaches. Kinda poetic that Ward topped him head up.


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it'll be interesting to see how bradley chubb performs this year. He SHOULD have a big year across from Miller, but Ward looks extremely good righ tnow


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:

One thing I didn't mention earlier was that Antonio Brown got frustrated during the game. He was not used to a defender being able to cover him as closely as Ward did. I thought that was pretty cool. LOL

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
it'll be interesting to see how bradley chubb performs this year. He SHOULD have a big year across from Miller, but Ward looks extremely good righ tnow


Last week Miller didn’t give anyone else on the D a chance ..... he was in the QB’s face all day ... *L* ...

I wanted Ward over Chubb before i knew just how good Ward was ... now ... rofl ...

That was the BIGGEST NO-BRAINER PICK EVER ...

Wards a STUD ... don’t matter who plays opposite him ... Chubb may shine opposite Miller but Chubb simply does not have the exposiviseness to shine on his own ... Chubb will never be a stud in the NFL ..




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Ward is doing nothing I did not expect, the kid has elite athleticism.

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Make Them Know Your Name
Denzel Ward
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SEP 17 2018

My dad would have been 49 today.

That’s pretty crazy. He would still be so young, you know? Hard to believe it’s been over two years since he passed.

I still think about him every day — every time I hold a door open for somebody, every time I remind myself to look a person in the eyes when I speak to them, every time I get tired or things get tough and I tell myself I need to work harder and push through it.

Those are all things that he taught me.

I also think about him every time I’m back in Bedford, Ohio — where I grew up, about 30 minutes southeast of FirstEnergy Stadium — and I drive past the Carylwood Intermediate School to the corner of Caryl and Melba, and I see the street sign with his name on it.

PAUL G. WARD JR. WAY

That’s one thing I wish he was here to see. When I think about everything that’s happened since he passed — me being named an All-American at Ohio State, getting drafted No. 4 by the Browns, picking off two passes in my first NFL game — I know he would be proud.

But seeing that street dedicated in his honor … I know that would have meant a lot to him.

His name was very important to him. He believed that a man’s name was everything, and that it was a man’s responsibility to make sure his name stood for something. Every time I stepped on the football field, my dad would say, “Make them know your name.” Not only with the plays I made, but with how hard I worked and the kind of teammate I was.

I took that with me to Ohio State.

He came to see me play my freshman year. I didn’t really play too much — just on special teams, really — but I know he was proud to see me out there, at a world-class university, playing for a powerhouse program.

After my freshman year, I went back home for a couple of weeks. One morning while I was home, my dad went to the gym for a spin class. I was with my mom in the kitchen when she got a phone call. It was somebody from the gym.

During the spin class, the woman on the phone said, my dad had collapsed.

He was being rushed to the emergency room.

I got into the car with my mom and we drove to the hospital. We ran inside and asked where my dad was, and when we got to his floor, we saw the doctor right away.

He said my dad didn’t make it.

He had passed away.

That was it.

I’ve heard people describe what it’s like when bad things happen — you know, a big moment like a near-death experience or an unexpected death in the family — and they say that everything slows down.

But I didn’t experience that.

For me, everything happened really fast. The phone call. The drive to the hospital. The news from the doctor. He didn’t make it. Then my mom calling family members and telling them the news, and everybody coming to the hospital crying and confused, asking how this could have happened.

We didn’t have any answers.

We later found out that the cause of death was cardiac arrest.

The funeral was tough. But it was also kind of eye-opening because I think that that was when I realized how big of an impact my dad had made on our community. I mean, he had worked in education for as long as I could remember, as a teacher and an administrator. And he had always been really passionate about serving our community and giving back.

When I was maybe six or seven, he took me and my brother to a shelter on Thanksgiving to help prepare food and serve dinner to the less fortunate — people who were homeless or who didn’t have anywhere to go. He was so passionate about serving our community, and he wanted to instill that in me and my brother, Paul III, by getting us out there and doing it ourselves.

Since that day, every year I’ve been able to, I’ve been back out there working at the shelter on Thanksgiving.

It’s just another one of those things that reminds me of my dad … and all the things he taught me.

He was a good dad. And I know that a lot of times, when somebody dies, people talk about how they didn’t appreciate them while they were here. I think that happens a lot. But it wasn’t like that with me and my dad. I think from a young age I understood that a lot of kids didn’t have their fathers in their lives, or any kind of male role models, really. So I’ve always kind of understood how fortunate I was to have had a dad like him.

But that day at the church, for his funeral, I realized how fortunate our community was to have a man like him.

The church was packed. Every seat was full. There were people standing along the walls. People standing in the doorway. People standing outside who couldn’t even get in because there wasn’t any room.

All people whose lives my dad had impacted.

Not long after his funeral, it was time for me to go back to school. I didn’t want to go. I didn’t want to leave my mom alone. It was tough on her. She and my dad had been high-school sweethearts. They’d been married almost 21 years. Now, with him being gone, I didn’t want to leave her all by herself.

But my dad didn’t just prepare me for football, he prepared me for life. He taught me that when things get hard, you have to keep working, because life goes on. And my mom and I both knew that my dad would have wanted me to go back to school, finish what I had started at Ohio State, fulfill my dream of making it to the NFL … and inspire as many people as I could in the process.

So I went back to school.

Make them know your name.

That’s what I was thinking on draft night as I was walking from the green room to the stage after the Browns had taken me with the fourth pick — after the commissioner had called my name.

My name.

Denzel Ward.

Denzel Ward - The Players Tribune

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what a great story, makes me like this kid even more


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Nice story about him.

I assume that site has ghost writers, but I didn't know about his dad. He sure is making our FO look smart, to draft him at 4.


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Good God! That was one of the most touching articles and testimonials I have ever read!

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As a father and live in grandfather of two boys a 12 year old and 6 year year old. This article hits hard.

The title of father means more to me than any job or role I have had.

The example you set and the manor in which you conduct yourself leaves a lasting mark.

It starts the life of a new generation and provides a path for those that follow.

Not everyone gets that. Those that do the impression lasts a lifetime.

Good for Ward. Honor to his father.

Pass it on.

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Wow,, felt myself tearing up a little. Touching.. Very touching.


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This kid is first class all the way. I hope he inspires mass amounts of young folks. His work ethic, his demeanor, and his humbleness is something you don't see much today with young kids.


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