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Well, there is something I agree with.

This is unfair, though. Look at the penalties. A rookie tackle, who certainly shows a lot of promise, had a few penalties. Totally expected. Totally consistent with everything we know about young players.

But, for some inexplicable reason, Hue is somehow supposed to be such an incredible coach that even rookie issues are completely avoided. No learning curve, no mental errors. Nothing. Guess Harrison is also expected to never give up a sack or pressure, either.

Myles Garrett got two flags - one the league has already admitted should never have been a flag - the second trying to make a game changing play and doing something silly. But he's a superstar. So we're mad at Hue for not developing his discipline, but I guess he'll get no credit for the clear leap that Garrett has taken, along with the rest of the damn team, in overall quality of play.

Citing Mangini is so cheap. Mangini loaded the roster with washed up veterans. Their discipline was great if you ignore we were stuck in cap hell and going nowhere fast with an aging roster, who utterly hated Mangini anyway, that was incapable of winning more than five games. Oh, yeah, take us back to those glory days. How good it felt to be the least penalized team in football.

90% of what you mention can be attributed to the growing pains of a young team that is predominantly starting first, second or third year players. It isn't going to be perfect. No coaching, ever, will change that situation. Period. Any expectation otherwise is unrealistic. A young team is going to make dumb plays and draw flags - especially when anyone objective can see that our "bad team" is officiated very differently to the "good teams."

Give the roster some time to grow. Perhaps they can finally learn some discipline when they're done spending training camp learning a new freakin' system - for ONCE.

I think the jury is still out on if Hue's team will be disciplined or undisciplined.

As a Hue supporter, I admit that the penalties are a concern. That comes back to the HC.

In his defense, let's look at the roster. We are still the youngest, or one of the youngest, rosters in the league. Additionally, our roster had a 58 or 59% turnover.

A logical mind might consider that the above combination of inexperience and guys not playing together for very long would result in more penalties. Others, who have an dumb ass agenda of wanting the HC fired, will overlook that and put all the blame on the HC.

Penalties are on the position coaches/coordinators, not the HC I would think.

Hue is the CEO. It comes down to him.

That said, I agree with Vers. One game isn't a indication on if the team is disciplined or not. Also, each season is different. Our team is very different from last year.

It's going to take more than 1-2 games to come to a conclusion on that one.

All teams commit penalties.


I do think taunting calls, delay of game, too many men on the field, those types of call reflect more on the coaching.

But False Starts, Holding Calls, PIs, roughing the passer, they are going to happen. I personally don't believe those calls determine whether a coach has a disciplined team or not.

So let me get this straight bro ...

Dorsey is the right man in the right place ...

Dorsey traded a 3rd rounder for a qb thats goingbto play like he did last sunday all year ...

Math don’t add up dawg ... not even close ...

that was as bad as TT WILL PLAY ...

I warned ya’all about HORRIBLE TT ... ya’all didnt heed my warning and now everyones worried were getting HORRIBLE TT every week ...

Oh vay ... *LOL* ...