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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.southbe...71596e.amp.html

This should outrage everyone...she was not a thug running from cops or committing a crime....she was just coming home from work to her two kids....but not hearing much outside from local protests.

Hope all involved from the cop,the prosecutor,the grand jury and the chief and mayor who have not fired this guy can all sleep well at night....this could hurt Pete's presidential dreams for not taking action against one of his cops.

Thoughts and prayers.

From your link...





The title states cop blows a STOP LIGHT, is there more to the article or was this just a horrible accident?

The title of the webpage article is "Grand jury declines to indict South Bend police officer in fatal crash".

Prayers to all involved.

Yes...there is private security camera footage that caught the crash. There is also additional private footage of the officer driving at a high rate of speed 1-2 blocks prior to crash with lights off. The crash video shows the "cherries" come on just
seconds prior to impact

Still nothing on which driver had the RED light...can you post that part please.

The second link.

The second link.

From second link...

Or whether there's dash cam footage?

From the same article it says that the prosecutor confirmed to the family their daughter had the green light.

Cops not commenting means little other then they don't want to hurt their brother.....police lost basically all my trust when the indy crew intentionally took bloodwork of their drunk brother Brisard who just killed a motorcycle rider to the wrong lab so as to invalidate the results based on their union contract. Total BS. Enough innocent folks die at hands of police that we don't need freddy gray or alton sterling to be the face of the cause.

Dallas Cop Seen Crying Moments After Shooting Neighbor When She Entered Wrong Apartment

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dallas-cop-seen-crying-moments-193745096.html

Oh well...she made a dumb mistake and killed a other innocent person....gonna get what she gets....but still trying to figure out how she got into his place...assuming apartment complexes like that have locked doors to each unit

He opened the door.

I hadn't read that.

But anyways - something seems off here.

She had worked a 15 hour shift. (why? not enough cops I guess) She went to the wrong apartment and.............walked in? Why wasn't the door locked? OR, went to the door, and had to knock in order to be let in. Why didn't she have keys to her own apartment?

She tried the key and the handle. It didn't work. The dude from inside, hears someone rustling at his doorknob and opens the door to see who it is. She then kills him.

And, she's being charged with murder. (I don't know the exact charge, so forgive me)

Yeah, they did a good job this time.

You making that up??? The story I read was she went in as door was ajar when she tried her electronic key and shot him a good ways into the apartment.

That's what I read Thursday night.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/attorneys-family-criticize-affidavit-dallas-shooting-062117989.html

DALLAS (AP) — Attorneys for the family of a black man who was shot and killed by a white Dallas police officer who says she mistook his apartment for hers are criticizing an affidavit that gives a narrative of what happened.

The lawyers said the arrest affidavit released Monday contradicts neighbors' accounts. Amid their concerns, though, the district attorney said the case against Amber Guyger will get a hard look by her office and be presented to a grand jury, which could decide on more serious charges than manslaughter in last week's shooting of 26-year-old Botham Jean.

Benjamin Crump, one of the attorneys for Jean's family, said the affidavit "is very self-serving." And Lee Merritt, who is also representing the family, called it an attempt to "condone what happened, give her a break."

The document, prepared by a Texas Ranger, appeared to be based almost entirely on Guyger's account.

Guyger, a four-year veteran of the police force, told investigators that she had just ended a 15-hour shift Thursday when she returned in uniform to the South Side Flats apartment complex. She parked on the fourth floor, instead of the third, where she lived, according to the affidavit, possibly suggesting that she was confused or disoriented.

When she put her key in the apartment door, which was unlocked and slightly ajar, it opened, the affidavit said. Inside, the lights were off, and she saw a figure in the darkness that cast a large silhouette across the room, according to the officer's account.

The officer told police that she concluded her apartment was being burglarized and gave verbal commands to the figure, which ignored them. She then drew her weapon and fired twice, the affidavit said.

She called 911 and, when asked where she was, returned to the front door to see she was in the wrong unit, according to the affidavit. Authorities have not released the 911 tapes.

The Dallas County medical examiner's office said Jean died of a gunshot wound to the chest. His death was ruled a homicide. Guyger was arrested Sunday night and booked into jail in neighboring Kaufman County before being released on bond.

At a news conference Monday evening, Merritt said two independent witnesses have told him they heard knocking on the door in the hallway before the shooting.

He said one witness reported hearing a woman's voice saying, "Let me in! Let me in!" Then they heard gunshots, after which one witness said she heard a man's voice say, "Oh my God! Why did you do that?"

Merritt said he believes those were Jean's last words.

As for the contention that Jean left his front door ajar, Merritt said Jean was a "meticulous individual" who made it "a point to close the door behind him."

"He put everything in a particular place," Merritt said.

He said Jean had a red doormat outside his apartment door. "In fact, to ensure no one mistook his apartment the way this officer is claiming in this case, he went out and bought the biggest, brightest red rug and placed it right there at his doorstep," Merritt said.

Merritt has represented relatives of an unarmed black teenager who was fatally shot in the back by a white police officer in June while fleeing a traffic stop near Pittsburgh.

Crump is best known for representing the families of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Martin, 17, was fatally shot in 2012 in Florida by George Zimmerman, a Hispanic man who was a neighborhood watch captain. Brown, 18, was shot to death in 2014 by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.

"Black people in America have been killed by police in some of the most unbelievable manners," Crump said earlier Monday, citing "driving while black in our cars" and "walking while black in our neighborhoods."

Now, he said, "we are being killed living while black when we are in our apartments."

Protesters gathered at police headquarters Monday night in Dallas, The Dallas Morning News reported. Several dozen blocked traffic as they marched about half a mile from the headquarters. Police fired pepper balls to help control the crowd at one point.

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson said the decision to allow Guyger to surrender somewhere other than Dallas County's jail was made by the Texas Rangers, who are also investigating. She emphasized, though, that her office is conducting its own probe.

"We are committed to making certain that we get to the bottom of (it)," Johnson said.

She will have the option of presenting more serious charges to the grand jury.

It wasn't immediately clear if Guyger has an attorney.

Guyger's blood was drawn at the scene to be tested for alcohol and drugs, Police Chief U. Renee Hall said, but authorities have not released results.

Jean grew up in the Caribbean island nation of St. Lucia before attending college in Arkansas. He graduated in 2016 from Harding University, where he often led campus religious services as a student. He had worked for accounting firm PwC since graduating.

Jean wasn't the first person shot by Guyger. She shot a man named Uvaldo Perez on May 12, 2017, while on duty.

According to an affidavit filed against Perez, police were looking for a suspect when Guyger and another officer were called to assist a third officer. Perez got out of a car and became combative with Guyger and another officer. A struggle began and Guyger fired her Taser at Perez, who then wrested it away from her. She then drew her gun and fired, wounding Perez in the abdomen.

Sgt. Michael Mata, president of Dallas' largest police union, the Dallas Police Association, said Guyger was a respected officer who worked on a high-risk team tasked with arresting some of the most violent offenders. On the day of the shooting, Guyger's unit had arrested multiple suspects for armed robbery, he said.

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Associated Press writers Terry Wallace and David Warren in Dallas and Ken Miller in Oklahoma City contributed to this report

Dallas Officer Claims Botham Jean Ignored Her 'Verbal Commands'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dallas-officer-claims-botham-jean-231033809.html

Cops story keeps changing.

Does it matter what verbal commands she gave? She entered an apartment and shot the occupant mistakenly thinking she was in her own apartment.... horrible mistake but I would think manslaughter is appropriate...

As for the original story... I'd like more details on I find the cops lights were flashing... siren on... if they wer then it seems under like w tragic accident... if they were not or the cop turned them on ATM the less second then that's completely reckless...

Unless they can show some connection between these 2 which would give cause to the fact that she went there with the intent to kill him, manslaughter seems like the charge..

As for him ignoring verbal commands, dude was in his apartment when this person starts screaming at him through the door or opens the door and starts screaming at him... whichever.. he wasn't attacking the cop... I have no idea how quickly I could process that information and decide on what to do, my first thought would likely be that I was the one under attack.. not, "Hey, it might be an armed cop in the wrong apartment." Unfortunately, it sounds like he didn't have more than a few seconds before he was shot... so we will never know what he thought was happening..

On a different note, we have laws to prevent truck drivers from working more than 8 hours at a time without a chance to sleep and refresh for fear they could get sloppy/drowzy and cause accidents.... but cops, who carry guns and have to make split second life and death decisions, are working 15 hour shifts? That seems pretty stupid.

12hr shifts seem to be the standard. My wife works 4 days in a row @ 12hrs each. They go 4 on, 4 off and switch between day and night each cycle.

I work 12's as well... Fri,Sat,Sun-Wed,Thu-Mon,Tue-Fri,Sat... we switch between day and night every 28 day cycle. I had to slow the amount of work I was doing awhile back after struggling to stay awake on the way home at 6:30.. in the evening. An officer from my academy actually fell asleep and went head on with another car.

It's a crap schedule and one that the higher ups don't work so they don't care. We're told we can't go to another schedule because of manpower issues. We hire year round and still can't stay properly staffed.

those shifts are certainly a problem. cops and nurses work brutal hours.

And nurses have to deal with more poo too.

I don't care if a cop gives a command. Without a warrant or probable cause they can't come into your home or force you out of your home.

She better be convicted for manslaughter because that is what she did.

I'm not sure if there is enough info to have an opinion on the vehicular homicide. If he ran a red light while speeding then he also needs to go to jail for manslaughter and public endangerment.

Try this while black, or living in the hood and let me know how that works out for you. Cops come guns drawn, you better be compliant.

I grew up IN the hood. Cops don't come there period.

Anyone see how the Dallas PD got a search warrant for Botham Jean's apartment, but not one for their killer cop who executed a man who opened the door?

Isn't it funny how liberals just hate God, Flag, Anthem, Soldiers, Cops, Country.

I'm not a lib. Everything else you said is equally dumb as the idea of me being a lib.

so you support the cop killing a man in his own home for no reason?

Of course he does.
Cops are on his team.

People who don't support them 24/7/365/100% are...
...the enemy.



Even people who only support "the good ones."

Isn't it funny how all you do is spread hate and lies?

I support at least getting all of the facts out before convicting. The media does not get the final say the jury does. All people are innocent until proven guilty. If this cop is proven guilty then I will support the decision. That is how the law works. The media and the PC police do not get to decide cases on political leanings.

and yet you're fine with the cops being the judge, jury, and executioner.

dont ever complain about big government when you clearly brown nose whatever it is they do. you bow down to authority. pathetic.

no morals. They don't stand for anything except the apparatus of the state.