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Not football, but this is good news, eo. Stay strong.

That's the important stuff. You'll certainly be in my prayers.

I managed to sit through the entire game and didn't lose my mind. It was not out of the realm of possibility that we'd win it, which is kind of a different feeling for me.

I'll be willing to wager we will be looking for a kicker starting today.

Beyond that I'm not sure I'm complaining too much about anything yet. TT isn't the greatest thing ever but he's not the one losing games for us. Let's give it a few more weeks to see what's happening.

Thoughts and prayers EO

Stay strong Tab!!!

I saw the refs - ONCE AGAIN - nullify a terrific 3rd down stop with a ridiculous call...a call that ONCE AGAIN resulted in points/more-points in a very, very close game.

Thoughts and prayers man. All the best.

I agree with this. I feel like we had the exact same gameplan than the week before offensively, instead of trying to win, we are trying NOT TO LOSE.

This is exactly what I mean. I feel like we are trying to win games 6-3. Not gonna work when you can Kick

I am so glad you mentioned this! I didn't want to sound like a sore loser or nit pick against the refs, because all in all it was actually a pretty decent game by them. But for some reason, is it just me, or does this lady have it out for us? Isnt she the one that cost us a game last year and the year before she tossed Pryor? She also had the horrible call on the duke fumble in the past where he clearly recovered and she said no inside of 2 min and we couldn't review it!

My opinion is just that, and based on 0 fact, just my gut feeling.

I feel like we're already getting more respect from the refs. There were bad calls in both games, but the bad-to-questionable calls were more balanced than I felt they were in previous seasons.

I saw us once again play just like we practice. I also found a picture of us practicing

If thats how we practice ... its to bad Gonzo missed practice last week ...

Oh, snap! Lol!

Strength, Eo! You can do this. Do not weaken.

Well, we signed a kicker today, a rookie so I don't know anything about him.. but he can't be worse... (one thing a Browns fan should probably never say)

I saw TT check down and throw underneath the entire game until the game was on the line.. then suddenly we had a vertical passing game. He has to start taking some of those shots earlier. I also saw his INT, which not only did he throw right into coverage, he once again threw it with the velocity of a change up.

I saw us stick with the run even though we weren't getting a lot out of it but then it started to improve later in the game, as the running game usually does.

Not much I can say about the D other than it is legit.. folks are making big time plays.. they are just a little bit of experience away from being REALLY dominant.

I also saw a coaching staff (and a head coach) that despite the record, really deserves an even longer leash.

I'm also seeing something else but I'm going to start a thread on it so I won't elaborate here... Learning how to win.

No I think he practiced all six days

I can see this defense really misses Nassib and Meder.not.
a saw a DT produce 3 sacks yesterday which was more than Nassib had last year.

Well, I didn’t see the game, but I also didn’t read/hear about Desmond Harrison from anyone. That is a great thing.

Hey eotab hope your feeling better

The more times I watch the Callaway TD, the more convinced I am that Tyrod was trying to throw to Landry. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

Maybe that play will help TT have trust in the rookie. Callaway touching the ball more could mean good things for our offense. He looks like our most explosive player.

I'm not trying to knock Taylor. He had a pretty good game outside of the INT, the bad spin into the sack at the 2 minute warning, and the looseness with the football (several near fumbles). For the seasoned vet, he looks like he needs to settle down a bit. I expect more improvement this week.

j/c

i totally forgot about the "almost" fumble by TT on the one scramble ... that woulda been disastrous as well

I forgot as well. It seems like we had a quick run of those... Higgins I think was the other one that lost the ball, but it bounced out of bounds?

that *was* a fumble. lucky bounce and he got it back. still a fumble, though. just not a lost one.

TT’s was self inflicted ... he was carrying the ball in his left hand ... it just squirted out w/o any contact ..

VERY SLOPPY ...

I agree with your take. I am frightened that for a guy who supposedly does not turn over the ball, he has 2 INT at very bad times during games - as well as the ball bouncing on the ground now as well. I don't see the ball security aspect of his game yet.

Thanks Tab ..great insight. I missed the game. Looking forward to watching Thurs night.

I wish the Browns had kept Daves the RB. He had the speed to hit the holes up the middle with this style of run blocking ..imo.

Man, the foot was not in our football. Hope we fixed it for Thursday night.

Pulling for you bro. Stay strong!

I'm starting to get concerned that after all this time it doesn't seem like TT has developed any real chemistry with any particular offensive player. I just don't see anyone who would be his "go to guy". One would think Landry would be it, but if I'm honest and a non-Browns fan asked who it was, I wouldn't be able to give them a confident answer.

First half we ran the ball a lot it seemed which was frustrating. But it seemed like by doing that it opened up the play action a lot more in the second half. I might believe it was done that way on purpose.

I'm definitely not qualified to talk about the intricacies of run blocking, but to my eye it doesn't look like we get much push. Largely it looks like we stand the defender up, but don't really move the around much. Our RB's get some lane, but the defender still has the opportunity to get their hands on them.

Hyde is doing a respectable job but I'd like to see a little more of Chubb.

The Callaway TD... TT throws a funky ball. At first I thought it was going to be under thrown, then it did some weird thing and I thought it was going to be over thrown. But suddenly Callaway kicked it in to another gear and made a stellar play! If that doesn't boost TT's confidence in his guys, I don't know what will.

On defense I was pretty ticked at Collins on the first defensive series. He looked like he was playing 80% intensity.. not hustling, I think I actually saw him shy away from contact. I don't know if he caught a boot in his backside, but he played much better the rest of the game.

Randall looks to be a turnover magnet! I'ts nice having a secondary that can get their hands on the ball again.

After playing the Saints I feel much much better about Gregg's deep safety. Why do I say that? Because we didn't use it this week! That too me says it's usage is now more a matter of specific scheme and not because we are so outmatched.

I was not thrilled about the end of the first half clock management. Saints get it just under 2 minutes. We have 3 time outs still. First play the Saints lose a couple yards IIRC. We let the clock run. If we had used our TO's aggressively and the next 2 plays pan out the same way they did, I estimate we would have gotten the back with closer to 1:20 on the clock. Instead we gave up almost 40 seconds we didn't need to.

I'm trying not to bag on Hue, but in these close games the guy HAS to figure out a way to get that "sinking feeling in his gut" look off of his face. That kind of thing is contagious and it makes me not surprised to see our QB sitting on the bench during the most crucial parts of the game.

I'm probably just projecting and these guys probably aren't doing anything than their normal personalities. It's just not a good look.

I will say this for Hue this year... he's not afraid to step up and get in the ref's ear this year. It didn't take a good lip reader to see the verbage he uses LOL In the past he's come across more like Marty McFly's dad when Biff Tannen is bullying him around when it came to bad penalty calls.

Giving Drew Brees more time to score would have been idiotic.