DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 21 Jets 17 Hue's make or break week.

Like it or not, this is a must win game for Hue.Fans are not going to settle for anything less and losing to a rookie QB that we could have drafted will send people over the edge.

Thursday games are usually lower scoring games with limited game plans. Teams that run well and play good defense usually win. That could be us or that could be NYJ. If it's NYJ expect the chants to start Baker and to fire Hue.

Doing either would be a step back this early in the season, but the pressure is going to be hot and heavy from Haslam on down if we lose this week.

I don't think the outcome either way will make or break Hue.

A win might not, but a loss dooms the guy



Hue has to start winning games.


You do realize tat Hue's record isn't good. No?

Yeah.

I've noticed the record, and I still don't think a loss against the Jets gets him fired. Three or four more after that will, but a Thursday loss won't.

How can we not know the record when you and the other Sashi lovers post the record several times a day?

And one more time. That record is far more on Sashi than Hue. Yet you used to cuss out Mac for daring to question Sashi. Freaking hypocrite.

I don't think he gets fired if he loses this week, but I do think that the chants will start.

Same with the start Baker chants.

A win this week will hold off the fans for a bit, but a loss is going to bring out their venom full force.

For the record, I think firing Hue or starting Baker are both bad ideas this early in the season, but that is what the fans will be calling for.

A serious question. Are you denying that the calls to fire Hue haven't already began? Hell, I thought they started last year.

And another question..............don't you think that there have already been calls for Baker to start?

We are 2-0 with a kicker who can make kicks.

I din't see it as "make or break" for the coach under those circumstances, especially when the owner called for him to stay this past off-season.

Personally, I'm okay with giving Hue the year to prove himself with some real talent and an experienced QB.

But, I'd also agree with the reality: things might get ugly if we lose this week to Darnold and the Jets.

I agree with both points. Ideally we string some wins together to put this stuff to rest.

Yes, that would be best.

We are going to string three in a row together starting Thursday.

Hush your mouth. You are giving the dark side ammunition.

the only way this is make or break for hue is if we get blown out.

My thoughts exactly. If we lose by 30 there is about a 20% chance Hue gets fired.

Don't know what you guys are smoking.

Not like they'll be if we lose this week. The stadium will be out of control after that.

This last game and our kicker has put everyone on the edge.

I understand that you want Hue fired, but I do not.

I am tired of starting over.

JC...

I'm not sure it's Hues make or break week...But it is our teams week to show we aren't a doormat anymore...We need to win the next games against winnable teams (Jets and Raiders are'nt very good) If we loose both of them...I will tell you, it will be looking like doom in a hurry.

I don't think it's make or break. I don't think it's really different from most other games except that it's on national T.V. apparently.

It's been 1 day since the Browns have cut a veteran.

I wouldn't say this is a make or break game.

If Haslam and/or Dorsey are evaluating Hues job on a week to week basis, then they might as well just fire him now. I highly doubt they are doing that though.

I have been hard on Hue. Very hard.

I think last week was his best game as the Browns HC, and I think a lot people even those that dislike him will agree with that.

I do believe the Haslams and Dorsey have given him slack because of the roster the last 2 years.

I do believe that if we lose this game at HOME to the Jets, that the slack will be tightened. IDK if he gets the can, but the option will absolutely open up and be talked about IMO.

If we lose, he is officially on the hot seat (I think he already is, but some can make the case he is not).

I don't think he gets fired just yet if we lose, but I think this game absolutely sets the tone of the fan base going forward. I don't see the fanbase giving him a pass or making anymore excuses if we lose this game.

Even his ARDANT supporters will have to admit, he has the talent, he has the home field, he has the superior coaching staff around him, he has the VET Qb against the ROOK Qb, he has superior running backs and a vastly superior defense. If he loses this game, there is no argument that can be made he should not be held accountable.

I truly expect a win here, and a win next week against Oak. Win these two games, Hue will be back in my good graces. Lose either, and I am back to calling for his head.

I actually expect us too. There is no reason we should not. And actually, I love where we play Tampa Bay right now in our schedule. In 4 weeks they should have a QB controversy going as Fitz is going to come back down to earth here in the next game or two. I think they start playing like who they are by then. We very well could win 4.

I hope so. It's been a long time we have won 3 in a row.

OK...a loss may not break Hue, but it sure isn't going to help the cause. We need to get the snowball rolling down a different hill. We have been on the current hill long enough. Maybe the tie and tough loss was us pushing it up another hill.

I anticipate nice weather at the game and to be cheering hard as we finally win one. It's going to be fun. I am staying downtown tomorrow night, so I can even stop in some of the bars and partake in some of the post game festivities!

The front office trotted out Cody Kesseler and Deshone Kizer and expected him to win. At one point Terelle Pryor was our best weapon on offense…….I think that stands on its head. While Hue has been here the FO passed on Desuan Watson (who Hue called and told him to expect to be taken), Patrick Mahommes and Carson Wentz.

There is reason he wasn’t fired and it wasn’t because they just like him. Look at this garbage they gave him.


In the end, the Browns' Wentz trade finally finalized during the 2018 NFL Draft and the team had selected these 11 players with the picks involved:

Corey Coleman
Shon Coleman
Cody Kessler (Since traded for a late round pick)
Derrick Kindred
Spencer Drango
Ricardo Louis
Jordan Payton (Since released)
Jabrill Peppers
Deshone Kizer (Since traded, along with picks, for Damarious Randall and picks)
Denzel Ward
Chad Thomas



Pathetic!

I find it funny when fans say "look what we got instead of..."

1. Carsen Wentz would not have been Carsen Wentz if he was playing here last year. There is nothing to say that he would have succeeded here like he has in Philly, and if I am going to play that game, I could just as easily say that he would have gotten hurt faster and longer. Circumstances, surrounding cast, locker room, and the overall organization play a significant role into the development of a player. Nothing this team had then would have lead me to believe Wentz would have been successful if we drafted him, or Deshaun.

2. I like Ward, and peppers is coming around. If baker turns into the guy we think, then that trade was actually golden - we got our guy, a shutdown corner who can be top in the league, a pair of decent safeties. Chad Thomas the book is still out, PLUS our QB. Sounds like a win to me.

3. You can hate those picks as much as you want, but Coleman was projected a 1st round pick, Jabrill was being talked about in the top 10, Deshone was talked about as a 1st round pick etc. You act like these guys didn't have talent coming out of college, THEY DID. They either never developed or have been slow to develop, part of that is on Hue.

I actually feel better about the trade now, than I did before reading that. I thought we wound up with nothing at all.

So, in short, we have Kindred, Peppers, Randall, Ward, and Thomas. At least we have talent out of the trade. We also added Baker at #1 overall. If a couple of these guys reach Pro Bowl level, and Baker becomes what we all hope he will, then it will be ok.

That is the best point on the entire thread. The important thing is a win would be great for the team and a loss would really hurt.

I was about to make a similar comment.

And its not even close ...

If we lose ... my only company on the isle may be U, Pit and tabber ... *L* ..

j/c

i know what each one of our bad trades have been on paper ... but there's no chance Julio Jones turns into Julio Jones, or Carson Wentz is as successful, etc ... THey could have easily come here and sucked too

I simply do not agree, this is the beaten down approach to drafting. I get what you are saying but passing on HOFers because well they wouldn't be that here is years of being downtrodden typed on.

What happens with Hue should and will happen after this season.

But this is a make or break game for this team. They must win games like this one.

Yeah, what he said. If they can't win games like this, then if you actually had some real optism, watch it vanish with this loss.

They have to win this game.

Anything about Hue aside, I think this weeks game will set the tone for the rest of the season. If we win, we can look forward to a good season. If we lose, well we can count on losing a lot.

The team should be given credit for the last two weeks against good teams. This week the game is against a team that is more or less on the same level as ours. This is the first 'all things being equal' test of the team's ability to close.

j/c

Another foolish, waste of space, rehashed nonsense on a message board.

Yeah, changing the HC during the regular season will help that. lmao