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He was very good in college and rose up the draft charts after a very strong NCAA tournament. I think Houston drafted him and he was hurt all the time. I don't think he did much w/LA either.

I'm not sure if the injuries were the problem or if he simply isn't athletic and/or skilled enough to be good in the NBA. It could be a combination.

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I have read that he has had a bit of an attitude/maturity problem.


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he was good in college ... not sure about now


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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“A lack of maturity and focus regarding basketball” have plagued Sam Dekker throughout his career, one league source says. Chance for a fresh start with the #Cavs now. Dekker is talented and young enough to turn it around.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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NBA Christmas Schedule 2018

12:00 - Bucks at Knicks
3:00 - 76ers at Celtics
5:30 - Thunder at Rockets
8:00 - Lakers at Warriors
10:30 - Blazers at Jazz


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
NBA Christmas Schedule 2018

12:00 - Bucks at Knicks
3:00 - 76ers at Celtics
5:30 - Thunder at Rockets
8:00 - Lakers at Warriors
10:30 - Blazers at Jazz


I didn't expect us to get a Christmas game but I'll definately miss it.


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I didn't expect us to get a Christmas game but I'll definately miss it.


We had a good run.


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Cavs host Lakers Nov. 21 ... NBA allowed Lebron to be home for Thanksgiving I see


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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'Isaiah Thomas trashes Cleveland, apologizes immediately after'

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf...art_river_index

P.S. He should shut up.

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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
'Isaiah Thomas trashes Cleveland, apologizes immediately after'

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf...art_river_index

P.S. He should shut up.


The dude blames people taking his comments out of context when it's a live feed of him rattling off whatever comes into his head. What an idiot.

Just own what you said, IT. And move on.


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He's salty (and rightfully so) about losing all of that money, but it wasn't Cleveland's fault


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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WELL, he never really was able to do his talking on the court, never saw much statement there. So jawing like crazy over us, I feel we were pretty generous letting him have a shot here. If we had it all to do over again, I am thinking negatory.

Shut up and put up.


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Did anyone else read about this? Real scary for him:

'Kevin Love thought he was dying during Nov. 5 panic attack'

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf...art_river_index

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Did anyone else read about this? Real scary for him:

'Kevin Love thought he was dying during Nov. 5 panic attack'

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf...art_river_index


That's incredibly scary...

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yeah that's not a good feeling for anyone ... especially that young


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Cavs guard J.R. Smith arrested in New York, accused of breaking someone's phone in front of restaurant | cleveland.com
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland Cavaliers guard J.R. Smith was arrested Friday in New York City after being accused of breaking someone's phone as they tried to snap a photo of him outside a Manhattan nightclub, New York City police say.

Smith, whose real name is Earl Joseph Smith, was issued what New York police call a "desk appearance" to appear in court sometime in September, according to New York City police spokeswoman Det. Sophia Mason.

The incident happened July 29 in front of the The Park restaurant in the Chelsea neighborhood, Mason said. Someone tried to take a photo of Smith, 32, as he walked out of the restaurant, Mason said.

Smith grabbed the person's phone and threw it, breaking the phone, Mason said.

He was charged with misdemeanor criminal mischief.

Cavs spokesman Ted Carper said in an email that the team is aware of the incident and Smith's personal attorney is handling the court case.

Smith had a run-in with police in September 2017 in Bay Village. In that case, he drove recklessly in his 2016 Dodge Charger about 1:20 a.m. on Lake Road. Westlake police spotted the car speeding along Interstate 90 and notified Bay Village police.

Bay Village police tried to stop his car and Smith pulled into a neighbor's driveway, police reports say.

He pleaded guilty to willful and wanton disregard of safety and was fined $150.


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Can't blame him.

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Yeah, not a big deal.

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the sooner fans realize players are people too, entitled to their privacy, the less this happens...if it were me, he's lucky it was only his phone that got thrown.. Did anyone see that Allie Clifton doing her best windhorst impression and riding lebron's jock out to LA....not sure how we are going to find someone to ask those really difficult questions like " so you're up 40 points at the half, do you think the offense is clicking?"


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the sooner fans realize players are people too, entitled to their privacy, the less this happens...if it were me, he's lucky it was only his phone that got thrown.. Did anyone see that Allie Clifton doing her best windhorst impression and riding lebron's jock out to LA....not sure how we are going to find someone to ask those really difficult questions like " so you're up 40 points at the half, do you think the offense is clicking?"


to arrest him for this too? lol

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You cannot just destroy someone's property because you don't like them taking pictures of you.

Call the police, ask the restaurant to have them removed ... but physical violence is not the answer, and all it does is get you in trouble.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
You cannot just destroy someone's property because you don't like them taking pictures of you.

Call the police, ask the restaurant to have them removed ... but physical violence is not the answer, and all it does is get you in trouble.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
You cannot just destroy someone's property because you don't like them taking pictures of you.

Call the police, ask the restaurant to have them removed ... but physical violence is not the answer, and all it does is get you in trouble.


Conflating property damage and physical violence is deeply unsettling. Just as pulling "good officers" who "keep the streets safe" to settle small vendettas is equally nauseating. When people talk about the death of personal responsibility, then they should take a look at this thread. What's the best way to resolve small personal issues? Bring in an unaffiliated 3rd party and allow them to reach a verdict.

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JR being JR. That person must have been rude with the camera. Because I've seen plenty of pics of him taken by fans and such.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
You cannot just destroy someone's property because you don't like them taking pictures of you.

Call the police, ask the restaurant to have them removed ... but physical violence is not the answer, and all it does is get you in trouble.


Conflating property damage and physical violence is deeply unsettling. Just as pulling "good officers" who "keep the streets safe" to settle small vendettas is equally nauseating. When people talk about the death of personal responsibility, then they should take a look at this thread. What's the best way to resolve small personal issues? Bring in an unaffiliated 3rd party and allow them to reach a verdict.


If someone aggressively takes something from you, and destroys it, that's violence. It doesn't matter who it is that does it.


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You cannot just destroy someone's property because you don't like them taking pictures of you.

Call the police, ask the restaurant to have them removed ... but physical violence is not the answer, and all it does is get you in trouble.


Conflating property damage and physical violence is deeply unsettling. Just as pulling "good officers" who "keep the streets safe" to settle small vendettas is equally nauseating. When people talk about the death of personal responsibility, then they should take a look at this thread. What's the best way to resolve small personal issues? Bring in an unaffiliated 3rd party and allow them to reach a verdict.


If someone aggressively takes something from you, and destroys it, that's violence. It doesn't matter who it is that does it.



this is like saying that taking the photo was stalking, as you're tracking someone's location, while taking pictures without consent is harassment. Slapping someone's phone out of their hand is not a violent move.

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Just saw Rodney Hood re-signed:

https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/releases/hood-signing-2018

Not overly exciting, hopefully he's matured.

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Just saw Rodney Hood re-signed:

https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/releases/hood-signing-2018

Not overly exciting, hopefully he's matured.


I think the pressure of playing on a lebron team got to him.. I expect him to be a huge part of this season.


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I think the pressure of playing on a lebron team got to him.. I expect him to be a huge part of this season.


I'm actually curious how much pressure Lebron put on others to perform up to his expectations. Kevin Love, Ty Lue and Hood all experienced mental health issues last season, and those are just the guys we know about. I wonder if they will play looser this season if the pressure to get to the Finals is no longer there.

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I think the pressure of playing on a lebron team got to him.. I expect him to be a huge part of this season.


I'm actually curious how much pressure Lebron put on others to perform up to his expectations. Kevin Love, Ty Lue and Hood all experienced mental health issues last season, and those are just the guys we know about. I wonder if they will play looser this season if the pressure to get to the Finals is no longer there.


its actually why i expect us to be semi-competitive. We have some pieces, and some young talent, we upgraded the PG position and we have a above average 4 in a weak east that no longer has lebron. They will be forced to play with and for each other starting game one. We are going to know by ASB is Lue can actually coach and develop a team. The cupboard isn't anywhere near as bare as last time he left. I also read that because we aren't in luxury tax penalty that helps us next year...i think it gives us more MLE or something like that.. I don't pretend to have a clue about NBA cap..half the time i think they make it up as they go along


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lets get Irving back?


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lets get Irving back?


Agree. James ran Kyrie off and then ditched the Cavs again. Might as well attempt to get Kyrie back in town.


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Disagree. Kyrie is a freaking punk and is the one who checked out because he was jealous of LeBron.

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I rather have a guy like sexton, who maybe isn't as offensively gifted as KI, but puts in the work defensively and hustles. Watching him play is going to be fun. He's a dude who loves basketball, coming from the PG position, thats going to rub off on his teammates


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I'm excited to watch Sexton play. He has some flaws, but the dude plays w/such passion and energy. Going to be fun to watch him grow.

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Kyrie? He's more likely to play for the Kings, Hawks and Magic than the Cavs ever again (I intentionally used "and", not "or" there). That ship has sailed. I'm not bashing the guy, I have a Funko of Kyrie on my desk right now to remind me of his 3-ball in game 7, but we need to accept he's never coming back here. Lebron on the other hand...

We got our title and we're back to being "basketball Siberia" again, which is fine. Over the next 5-10 seasons, we'll fight to get into the playoffs, maybe get as high as a 4th or 5th seed, maybe even advance into the 2nd round, but getting to the conference or league Finals, not going to happen. And that's okay.


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We just need to get a Kyrie out of Boston. Hopefully he's a Knick by next year

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I can see that happening.

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