What will he look like when he actually practices with the starters?
Aikmen made a comment about the QB and the different types of spirals. This may explain a few of the drops and clean that up quickly.
Baker really put the ball on the receivers last night. Many of his passes were quick, and seemed to be shot out of a rifle. He'll pull back a little once the 1st game jitters (as much as he may have had) are over, and put a little more touch on a couple of those.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Hue Jackson said on a conference call that he will wait until Monday to announce who starts at quarterback for the Browns in Oakland. Jackson gave the players the weekend off and won't see the players until Monday morning. Jackson did say this: "You guys all feel good about where things are headed."
Hue Jackson said on a conference call that he will wait until Monday to announce who starts at quarterback for the Browns in Oakland. Jackson gave the players the weekend off and won't see the players until Monday morning. Jackson did say this: "You guys all feel good about where things are headed."
When we got down even 7-0 ... I had zero confidence with Tyrod.
When we were down 14-0 and Baker came in ... I thought we had a better chance to win
When it was tied? ... I felt pretty good honestly
Cant' define the reasons why ... just my gut
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
oh yeah I don't blame hue for not naming Bake the starter last night. It's completely understandable. But the "look at the tape" comment made me laugh!
Gil Brandt ‏Verified account @Gil_Brandt 1h1 hour ago
Last night's #NYJvsCLE had 10.3 million viewers in the game's final 6 minutes, and was @nflnetwork's highest-rated and most-watched exclusive TNF game in more than three years.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I have no problem with Hue stating "I have t look at the tape". For him to name Baker the starter 10 minutes after the game would be a bit premature. I think both players deserve the respect to hear from Hue directly, with an explanation for each.
NO reason to name next game's starter at last night's presser.
Agreed.
Add in the fact of the concussion and that Taylor could very well not even be cleared to play....... It was smart of Hue to say what he said.
Further, you don't bench a guy, even if he IS cleared to play for next week - within hours of the game being over.
And, more than likely, Hue will be able to say something like: TT hasn't been cleared medically, so Baker will be starting.
I sa it in him at Oklahoma, I saw it last night. He elevates the play of the players around him. They sense that he can make the plays.
The thing that struck me is this change was immediate. It was like we switched all 11 guys or something. It all changed, right from the 1st play. When Taylor was in there, it was ugly. Really ugly.
It's no secret I hated the Mayfield pick in the draft. But I will say, based on what I saw yesterday, I have hope. I do not anoint anyone based on one game, but if this is what Mayfield gives us on a regular basis, I will be happy to say I was wrong.
How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?
--I think Baker will be the starter. The difference in the offensive once he came in was tangible. He played very well and our pace picked up.
--The moment is not too big for Baker.
--Taylor looked awful. He also looked depressed on the sidelines, even before he got hurt.
--I do feel bad for the guy, because he does things the right way.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when game plan around him and he is taking reps w/the ones.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when the other teams game plans against him.
--I will be interested to see if Baker can sustain the early success.
--I think it might have been a smart move by the coaching staff and front office to bring Baker along slowly. It allowed him a chance to see the NFL game up close instead of being thrust into the fire.
--I am praying that he is the guy and that we have finally solved our qb issue. Last night gave me hope.
In Hue's defense, he always says he'll need to "look at the tape". I think it is just press conference filler.
It's NOT PC Filler.
Some of you guys BLOW ME AWAY.
ANY HC in the NFL would handle this exactly the same way and end up with THIS CHAIN OF EVENTS.
Mind you. I'd do it TODAY and NOT MONDAY. The guys get the weekend off. I want them to know NOW to prepare for Monday.
The crew looks at film. Dorsey, Jackson and Haley meet. They determine Mayfield is the MAN. Mayfield and Taylor come to my office. It's said Mayfield is #1 going forward, Taylor #2. The team is waiting. Jackson and Haley go tell the TEAM it's Mayfield.
Have a good weekend. See you Monday. Be READY TO PUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You DON'T BONE your starting QB in a Post Game Presser after he's been put down with Injury.
You DON'T BONE your starting QB in a Post Game Presser after he's been put down with Injury.
Exactly.. poor dude sitting back in the locker room with a concussion.. phone buzzes.. picks it up to read the ESPN announcement that Hue has announced Mayfield is the starter.
Everybody knows it's coming, including Tyrod, but you do it the right way.
I know how I felt .... I hated the pick, and thought we made a big mistake.
It is possible that I might have made a slight error there.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Watching TT early in the game, to me his throwing motion did not look right. I seriously question whether Taylor was 100% for this game. He seemed to be quick to run and when he passed the ball, his accuracy was off.
No way of knowing if TT was 100% starting the game or if he might have been hurt early and tried to play through it.
Taylor was 4/14 for 19yds passing... and ran the ball 4 times for 22yds...
--I think Baker will be the starter. The difference in the offensive once he came in was tangible. He played very well and our pace picked up.
--The moment is not too big for Baker.
--Taylor looked awful. He also looked depressed on the sidelines, even before he got hurt.
--I do feel bad for the guy, because he does things the right way.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when game plan around him and he is taking reps w/the ones.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when the other teams game plans against him.
--I will be interested to see if Baker can sustain the early success.
--I think it might have been a smart move by the coaching staff and front office to bring Baker along slowly. It allowed him a chance to see the NFL game up close instead of being thrust into the fire.
--I am praying that he is the guy and that we have finally solved our qb issue. Last night gave me hope.
Spot on
Don't blame the clown for acting like a clown. Ask yourself why you keep going to the circus.
--I think Baker will be the starter. The difference in the offensive once he came in was tangible. He played very well and our pace picked up.
--The moment is not too big for Baker.
--Taylor looked awful. He also looked depressed on the sidelines, even before he got hurt.
--I do feel bad for the guy, because he does things the right way.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when game plan around him and he is taking reps w/the ones.
--I will be interested to see how Baker does when the other teams game plans against him.
--I will be interested to see if Baker can sustain the early success.
--I think it might have been a smart move by the coaching staff and front office to bring Baker along slowly. It allowed him a chance to see the NFL game up close instead of being thrust into the fire.
--I am praying that he is the guy and that we have finally solved our qb issue. Last night gave me hope.
I think Baker can be that guy.
I've watched this a bunch of times and Baker still has a lot to work on.
We ran every play out of the shotgun and even then his feet were a mess.
Almost every pass was to his first read and the few that were to the second or third read were usually on the run.
Because of his bad feet, he relied totally on his hips for many of his passes.
He also has a lot of things that you can't teach.
He has ice in his veins in the pocket.
Despite his bad feet and resulting throwing motion, he was extremely accurate. He put the ball through some very tight windows.
He got rid of the ball quickly!!!!
Now defensive coordinators are going to look at the same tape. They are going to decide that instead of trying to put a heavy rush on Baker, they are better off in heavy coverage. Some D coordinators might try a wide-9 since we are always in the shotgun. They are going to double the primary WR and float some LBs in those tight throwing lanes that he throws through.
Our coaches will probably do little to fix his feet during the season. They will try to help his read progressions and the timing of his reads. They'll also try to talk him out of making a few of those throws.
Baker needs to figure out his identity. He's going to need to put in extra effort because now he has to concentrate on the game plan every week along with his development. He is going to have to decide if he is going to continue to thread the needle with his passes. He's going to have to time his reads better.
In the coming weeks we'll see how he responds. The Raider's game should boost his confidence a bit, but it gets harder from there.
It would have been ideal to allow him to sit awhile longer while we continued coaching him up. I don't think they can keep him off the field after what happened last night.
I hope he doesn't suffer because he is coming in a little early.
Rich Cimini ‏Verified account @RichCimini 26m26 minutes ago
#Jets had ultra-aggressive game plan against Tyrod Taylor — 12 blitzes in 18 dropbacks. Worked like a charm. They remained aggressive vs Baker Mayfield (11 blitzes/24 dropbacks), but not at the same level. Mayfield’s quick release offset the blitz.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
It would have been ideal to allow him to sit awhile longer while we continued coaching him up. I don't think they can keep him off the field after what happened last night.
I hope he doesn't suffer because he is coming in a little early.
Yeah, the fans won't allow him to sit at this point. He doesn't seem to get frazzled easy, so the main concern is how well he adapts to defenses game planning for him now. He's got to decide if he wants to try to be more like Brett Favre and swallow the resulting interceptions that are going to happen, or take a more conservative approach like so many other QB's.
I honestly don't know which route I want him to take. Part of me wants him to try the Brett Favre thing because he has the skill set for it. The other side of that coin is that I know how quickly Browns fans can turn on a QB and that route is going to take patient fans. Of course he could have developed that risk free off the field and away from rabid fans if he sat, but that ship has sailed.
I was thinking of Farve right after our first two posts. Jeff Garcia is another guy who comes to mind.
Baker might be able to pull it off.
I was hoping he would get to sit longer and work on the footwork and getting more comfortable under center, but I agree w/you..........there is no stopping the Baker train now.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I know it kind of sounds odd...But I always think Baker's floor will be Jon Kitna...Really good accuracy, great feel for placement, and some solid mobility...But what Kitna did that was underrated was he had balls, and could take hits and get right back up.
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