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So boring!

Can we just stop and vote him in now?

so cuss words are allowed as long as it aint aimed at posters?

the more you post, the worse the crap looks.

WHOA! Did you see that?
A fight broke out in the middle of the Hearing!

If you say life is a bitch... that"s OK, If you say GMdawg is a bitch it is correct, BUT it is not allowed by the rules of the board. Name calling is not allowed.

You way off. Everyone knows how I feel about rapists. Point and pull the trigger. I have certainly said it over and over again. I am a strong believer in the death penalty for murder, pedophiles, and rapists.

This woman is flat out lying and it's completely obvious just by her body language and voice inflections. She is so terrible at her acting that it's a joke though. It's incredibly easy and blatant to see how she was coached to act that way. She has zero proof and zero credibility. What she has are several motives to slander. The least of which is that his mother as a judge took away her house in a foreclosure hearing. The second is that she is an extremist activist for pro abortion.

What's really stupid is Kav has already stated he would not overturn Roe vs Wade because it's already set in stone as a precedent and he is a strong support of set precedents. I just hope they sue the hell of her and the dems for slander once the dust settles.

He wasnt calling a forum member a bitch. He was name calling some dummy on TV. Not any worse than what you all call Trump and anyone else you dislike.

Remember the other night when you referred to some GOP idiot as an [censored]? That was just last night and you haven’t been suspended.

i disagree.

i disagree

Who is he name calling on the forum?

That is the specific rule, I believe.

i disagree

So anyways, the new theory out there is that Lindsey graham is auditioning for AG.

I would prefer Trey Gowdy.

Trump sure wouldn’t.

I saw Trey Gowdy on an old Forensic Files last night, back when he was the prosecutor in Spartanburg. I really like the way that guy works.

No nonsense and on top of things smart.

Well I give it to the Dems on the committee today, they sure have uninspired, monotonous and repetitious down pat. They just kept repackaging, will you agree to delay these proceedings, to Kavanaugh, all afternoon.

And the Dems call us deplorable. If they don't bring America down it won't be because they didn't try.

Anyone else watch Feinstein "victim blaming" towards the end of the hearing?

So when do we find Out if they are going to actually vote tomorrow?

I don't know, but this was the most sickening smear campaign in my 70 years on earth.


Absolutely sickening.


This isn't my America. It a bad day in our history.

profanity has always been against the board rules.

If I drank one, two, or twelve beers and fell asleep at 8 PM, and three nights later drank nothing at all all day long but fell asleep at 8 PM would it be fair to say I passed out at 8 PM both nights????

Clearly bitch isn't against board rules if it's not censored.
Although I have to wonder about that.

Yep we were all skying at he country club this evening, now go fetch me towel

Huh?

I just finished watching the whole thing. DV-R'd it and all.

The way I see it, this is a job interview. There's other candidates.

Both are believable enough to consider credible. Dr. Ford has a polygraph, Cavinaugh has his calendar and the statements.



In the end, it's just too risky to nominate this guy. It's not his right to be a judge. There's plenty more qualified candidates that haven't been accused of attempted rape. Especially from a woman who has nothing to gain. By a woman who discussed this with her therapist before Cavinaugh was ever nominated. A woman who passed a polygraph test.

At the very least, take some more time, and do the FBI Investigation. If only to help get the stain off Cavinaugh's Reputation before becoming a Supreme Court Judge.

The accuracy (i.e., validity) of polygraph testing has long been controversial. An underlying problem is theoretical: There is no evidence that any pattern of physiological reactions is unique to deception. An honest person may be nervous when answering truthfully and a dishonest person may be non-anxious.
The Truth About Lie Detectors (aka Polygraph Tests)
www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx

Well. The FBI uses polygraph test to approve their job candidates. I know, because I had to pass one. So if it's a govt standard...eh.

A lot about this whole ordeal does not smell right to me. Feinstein not releasing the letter for two months stinks to high heaven. Plus there is no corroboration of other evidence, which would be hard to gather since the alleged event happened 35 years ago.

For me to decide, I like to follow the evidence, and I see no reason to delay the confirmation vote, since no evidence was presented by the accuser.

If this was a trial, the jury would deliberate for about 5 seconds before finding the accused not guilty.

Other than pure politics I could see no reason to disbelieve Ford OR Kavanaugh today. There just isn't enough information to decide who is lying, yet one of them is either lying or extremely confused about the truth.

Kavanaugh's response under this pressure was excusable as a man under attack wanting desperately to protect his family, his name, and his career. However, while rattled to the core over this he displayed some signs of partisanship, beliefs in partisan conspiracy theory, and seemed to seethe with hatred towards the left over this ordeal... IMHO this as much as anything else was revealing and disqualifying for a lifetime appointment to the highest bench in the land.

Then there is the numerous unanswered questions that could have been flushed out with other witness testimony, hearing from other accusers, and a thorough investigation that the GOP seemed to want to avoid at all costs. You have to ask why we need to rush his confirmation with so many unanswered questions AND would the GOP feel the same if it was a dem candidate. This is neither Ford's nor Kavanaugh's fault, yet they pay the price of a vicious political atmosphere.

I actually felt for both, I found both credible to a degree, and I truly disliked the obvious partensinship displayed by both sides today. I felt like I needed a shower and a soul cleansing when all was said and done, this is not how I want to feel about somebody responsible for life changing decisions on the SCOTUS.

It would be easiest to withdraw/replace Kavanaugh or you have to conduct a thorough investigation into all the matters surrounding him. Pushing him through will further divide the country and he will never be considered 'just' with this cloud over his head. JMHO

We may know how we feel politically, but none of us can say beyond that, that there was any verified truth uncovered today. It seems to me that we commited a huge injustice to the witnesses, the country, and the truth today; and that was all we accomplished.

Cannot replace Kavanaugh. That would be giving in to the
'guilty until proven innocent" mantra the loonies on the left are spewing.

But it's not a trial. It's an investigation for a job interview.

There's other qualified choices who don't have these kind of claims to their name.

I see absolutely no reason not to believe Dr Ford. She has nothing to gain by lying. Her testimony seemed believable to me.

Politics aside, why continue nominating a guy with these kinds of allegations? Choose another candidate and get the process going again. Sucks for him, but it's a lifetime appointment to one of the most important jobs in government. It's too risky if he is what Dr Ford is alleging

So let's risk putting an attempted rapist on the supreme court.

That's something I think we can't do.

This is the nature of He Said. She Said.

It will always favor the male.

*Note I have not watched any of this.

Booker in not up for SCOTUS.

Backlash:

Fox News fires contributor over tweets attacking Kavanaugh accusers: 'Lying skanks'

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/27/kevin-jackson-fox-news-contributor-fired-over-kava/

‘Special Place In Hell’: Twitter Users Shred Lindsey Graham After Kavanaugh Rant

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lindsey-graham-brett-kavanaugh-rant_us_5badc8a8e4b0425e3c224528

American Bar Association calls for FBI investigation into Kavanaugh allegations, delay in confirmation votes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...m=.703354031e99

'An unmitigated disaster': Trump's allies aim fury at prosecutor Rachel Mitchell's questioning of Christine Blasey Ford

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ra...avanaugh-2018-9

No, he's not. He's a Senator. A position that comes up for re-election. So instead of deflecting from my point, why not answer my question?


Does it make sense to nominate a guy for the Supreme Court, a lifetime position that he could be in for 30+ years, who has allegations like these against him?

Why not just nominate someone else or at least do this FBI Investigation?

American Bar Association calls for FBI investigation into Kavanaugh allegations, delay in confirmation votes


By Meagan Flynn and Seung Min Kim
September 28 at 3:13 AM

The American Bar Association called on the Senate Judiciary Committee Thursday evening to halt the confirmation vote for Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, saying it should not move forward until an FBI investigation into the sexual assault allegations against him can be completed.

“The basic principles that underscore the Senate’s constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI,” ABA President Robert Carlson wrote in a letter to Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and ranking committee Democrat Dianne Feinstein (Calif).

The letter, which is unlikely to sway Republicans, said that an appointment to the Supreme court “is simply too important to rush to a vote.” “Deciding to proceed without conducting an additional investigation would not only have a lasting impact on the Senate’s reputation, but it will also negatively affect the great trust necessary for the American people to have in the Supreme Court,” Carlson wrote in the letter, obtained by The Washington Post.

The ABA, with 400,000 members, is the legal profession’s largest organization. Kavanaugh and his supporters have bragged about its favorable rating of the nominee, with Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) describing the imprimatur as the “gold standard.”

Also calling for an FBI probe was Harvard Law School scholar Alan Dershowitz, often lauded by President Trump’s for his criticisms of the the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. “Maybe we can get closer to the truth, although that is not certain,” Dershowitz wrote in a Fox News opinion piece. “But right now there are too many unanswered question[s] to bring the confirmation of Kavanaugh” to “a vote of the Judiciary Committee as scheduled on Friday, much less to a vote of the full Senate.” It is “possible that one of them is deliberately lying. Right now, there is no way of knowing for certain, which is why the FBI needs to talk to the judge’s accusers and others.”

During Thursday’s tumultuous hearing, in which Christine Blasey Ford testified that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in 1982, Kavanaugh referenced his good standing with the ABA multiple times as he angrily denied Ford’s allegations.

“For 12 years, everyone who has appeared before me on the D.C. Circuit has praised my judicial temperament. That’s why I have well unanimous, well-qualified rating from the American Bar Association,” Kavanaugh testified.

As part of its review of Kavanaugh’s qualifications, the ABA’s Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary found that Kavanaugh “enjoys an excellent reputation for integrity and is a person of outstanding character,” contributing to its unanimous “well-qualified” rating. Kavanaugh and Graham together alluded to the ABA investigation at least three times Thursday.

Democrats on the committee, meanwhile, complained bitterly about the majority’s unwillingness to have an FBI investigation and accused Republicans of rushing the confirmation.

Kavanaugh avoided answering when asked by Democrats whether he would ask for an FBI investigation into Ford’s allegations himself.

In her opening statement Thursday, Ford told of how Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed, groped her and covered her mouth at a summer gathering when they were teenagers. In his, Kavanaugh cast himself as a victim of a “calculated and orchestrated political hit,” fueled by “pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election.”

An outside prosecutor, Rachel Mitchell of Maricopa County, Ariz., led much of the questioning, peppering Kavanaugh with questions about his high school drinking habits and asking Ford about the lingering psychological trauma she claims Kavanaugh’s actions caused.

Mitchell, a registered Republican, stood in for the all-male GOP senators on the committee, who did not question Ford. When it was Kavanaugh’s turn, Democrats zeroed in on Kavanaugh’s high school behavior at Georgetown Prep just outside of Washington, asking him about how much beer he typically drank during parties and to describe cryptic yearbook messages, which some have surmised contain sexual innuendos.

The committee announced Thursday evening that it would go ahead with a vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination Friday morning, with a final confirmation vote expected Tuesday. In calling for the FBI investigation into Ford’s claims before any such vote could happen, Carlson urged the Senate to “remain an institution that will reliably follow the law and not politics.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-27/senate-insider-kavanaugh-votes-secured

let the suicide watch beginning