DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Damarious Randall traded to the Browns for DeShone Kizer

Then it flew over your head too.

Not really.

Really....it's ok. I'm sure you'll get it next time.

Oh I got it.

Good grief! I hope you got a prescription to treat it...

https://www.ohio.com/akron/uncategorized...ndalls-contract

I'm all about it. I think he is our answer for FS, deep down truth IMO. Hope I'm right.

good move. they must like what they've seen

A key piece to or D. This guy is making a difference.

Maybe it was the negative shield/defense mechanism I've been putting up in the several recent seasons to keep my expectations low and disappointment levels lower, but three games in - seeing our FAs, seeing our rookies... John has done a spectacular job.

It would be hard to see/imagine these guys regressing/going backwards too, as I know it's early.

I know it's early but just about everything Dorsey has done is looking good. Kizer got in a game went 4/7 threw an INT and took 2 sacks.....and Green Bay decided to play a hurt Aaron Rogers after that.

He also had a fumble lost.

Personally, I'm still hoping Kizer gets it together at some point. He's a Toledo kid and as one myself, I'm backing him up. His development would be aided by healthy Aaron Rogers who would keep him on the bench learning how to be a pro. Obviously, he's not ready as we learned... painfully.

How does one not miss a tackle and grade out at 88.8? Is that that new math everyone is complaining about?

28 turnovers in 16 games.

Deshone Kizer is never going to be anything in the NFL.


I will never forget this play. I think it was 2nd down, Kizer rolls out to his left and keeps running toward the sideline….he is about to run out of bounds for a 10 yard loss…..at the last second jumps over the white line and throws the ball away while in the air…..it was right then and there…..beyond all the turnovers, beyond the horrible accuracy, I knew right then that this kid isn’t cut out for pro football.

My guess is that he made a few tackles, but the player got extra yardage after the first contact.

He didn't disappoint. Has skills. Just a broken shell mentally. Snakebit lasts. If he is bright and learns from mistakes, he should be absolutely golden by now. Not a player yet.

And then there are coverage responsibilities too.

Kizer was just another wasted pick made out of desperation. I didn't want him to begin with. He certainly proved me right so far =)

Yeah, to me drafting a QB with accuracy and decision making issues is a futile attempt. Those things rarely improve enough to become worth it.

Yup, they factor in coverage and they also factor in 'run stops' which are similar to TFL but a deep safety isn't going to get the extra bump in points because they dont have the opportunity to make many 'run stops'

Randall has played well this far.

Ya’all just need to spend a wee bit more time on the Isle ... ...

I thought Kizer was a GENIUS PICK ... u guys just need to look at it from a slightly different angle ....

- he played so bad we didnt win a game and got the #1 pick witch led to Bake ...

- Dorsey turned Kizer into Randall ... just the FS WE NEEDED ....

Hope that slightly adjusted viewing angle helps ...

While when looking at the end result that's true. Based solely on the pick itself? Not so much. lol

That whole rationalization, uh, explanation brought a smile to my face. Thanks for that.

If you are not, you should consider becoming a life coach or something... turning frowns upside down, lol

I agree with both of you. It's best not to draft a QB with accuracy issues - and while I'm on the drafting topic - it's best not to draft a receiver (or TE) who has a history of too many dropped passes. It's just risky business.

I can't wait to see how David Njoku fairs this season.

Nothing wrong with positive thinking and you do have a fair point. Still we passed on some really good players. Of course we could have just as easily picked another lemon too. Who knows ^^

Hahaha, I love this.

I saw something similar the other day regarding Cam Erving being a brilliant selection because the pick we got for trading him became Genard Avery, who is currently the top rated rookie edge rusher in the NFL.

So, essentially, we used a first round pick on layaway to acquire a high end pass rusher.

I'll take that logic.

Reminder, Randall hasn't even been practicing because he's hurt:



What a great move by the front office, we turned a player who had no future with us into a very good starter.

I agree. He's been a huge differeence ... he should thank us as well

It was a tweet.

I'll copy the text. It won't look as good, but you'll be able to read it. It's funny.

And he got Randall for KIZER

It's amazing at how much this team has improved in one year under Dorsey. The guy uses so many avenues to acquire players. Like you said, he made two excellent picks at 1 and 4. He takes flyers on guys w/past character issues, such as Callaway and Harrison. He made a few trades that really helped.

I also think he and Hue work well together. That's huge for us! We also have two excellent coordinators.

This is the first time since our rebirth that I really believe that the future is bright for this franchise.

We are quite there yet, but we're so much better than we were. This year is about learning how to win and getting the younger guys some much needed experience. Watch out for this team next year.

And think about this. We really might have franchise guys at QB, Edge rusher, CB, and LT. Those are the 4 most important spots on the team. And they are all freaking young. That is amazing!!!

it's amazing what happens when you have a competent GM. . . . turns our our coach isn't that bad after all either. He just needed a team with enough talent to be sub par and he could build them into a average + to good team.