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Just throwing this out there.....if anyone is interested playing head-to-head in NFL DFS this year on Draftkings, shoot me a DM. I'm thinking $3 or $5 contests over the course of the season.

I’ll take up on that if your willing to do $1 contests with me for the first 3 or 4 weeks so i can get an idea of how those work ...

I just played a 100 people game ... i’m confused on the lingo ...

Is 100 people games called tournaments? ... im confused as to what is considered a cash game and a tourny and a gpp ..

The actual reason i came here ...

Just entered a 100 player tourny ...

I stacked Ben and AB in this one ... i had 7400 left ... i could have taken McCaffery who i like this week cause they underutized him last week and atl is historically weak against pass catching rb’s ... OR i could have added JuJu ...

I went with McCaffery ... what would u have done? ... does it make sense to triple up .. if not, NEVER .. if so, when ...

Thanks for all your help ...

THANKS TO U ALSO VERS ...

I have more CMC than JuJu, so I probably would have done the same in tournaments. As it stands, I don't have either of them in my cash game, though. I don't think it is wrong to triple up players on a team. I think last week, the highest lineup had Fitzpatrick, Evans, and Desean and then ran it back with Ginn or Michael Thomas, I forget which. I think I have a GPP lineup that has Taylor, Duke, and Landry.

Yeah, I'd say 100 people would be considered a tournament.

Not sure if I'm going to do it, but I'm considering putting Higgins in cash. He is minimum salary on DK at $3,000 and last week saw 61% of snaps and now, with Gordon out, he may see even more and be targeted more. I think i'd need him to get 9-10 points and thinking Tyrod will be passing a ton, he has a chance to get there. Also, I'm wondering if they use Duke in the slot more, pushing Tyrod outside is certain plays. If so, he may see more Lattimore.

Whats cmc?

Watching the pod casts one dude keeps mentioning how many points u should get for the salaries ...

Is there a chart somewhere I can go see that breaks this down by what your ROI by position and salary range? ...

If not, what are your general guidelines ... is it strictly salary based or is it a combo of position/salary ..

CMC= Christian McCafferey

This is a broad generalization but on DK, I'd like my cash game players to at least 3x salary with potential upside. For total points, I try to speculate the guys can at least reach 150-160 points points.

So your team score goal is in the 150 - 160 range ... so based on “pro rating” there salary u calculate the number of points they would need to score to justify that salary?

Did i understand that right?

Did u play the TE from Tenn in any contests?

If so, cash, tourny.league or gpp ... im still confused on those .. thats emberassing to admit .. *L* ..

What “value” plays did u make and how did it fit in with your line up? ...

No. I moved off him at the last minute with the Mariota injury concerns. I played Jared Cook instead.

Week 2 recap:

Overall, a 58% return barring any scoring adjustments. Placed above the cash line in all single entry double ups and won all head-to-heads. Cash lineup was the following:

Overall Points: 165.64
Patrick Mahomes- 41.84
Tevin Coleman- 19.50
Todd Gurley- 32.3
Antonio Brown- 15.7
Quincy Enunwa- 16.2
Rashad Higgins- 9.7
Jared Cook- 8.9
James Conner- 19.5
Texans- 2.00

Moved off Kamara for Gurley for $200 less and Landry to Higgins. It allowed me to get to Antonio Brown. Moved from Golladay to Enunwa too. Seemed like there was more of a chance to spread the ball around in Detroit than New York.

Still not doing that well in GPPs but made more money back than last week and my best GPP lineup was better than my cash lineup:

Overall Total: 188.42
Matthew Stafford- 28.52
Duke Johnson- 3.00
Christian McCaffrey- 30.9
Rashard Higgins- 9.70
Juju Smith-Schuster- 34.1
Michael Thomas- 31.90
Travis Kelce- 32.90
Marvin Jones- 15.4
Texans- 2

I really thought the Texans DEF was a good play. Not so much. played Calloway in GPPs with Taylor but obviously wish I would have played him in cash at the same price as Higgins.

Week 3 thoughts after looking at the pricing on Draftkings:

1. Both the salary for Kamara and Gurley has remained the same from Week 2, $9.5K and $9.2K respectively. Seeing the usage of Kamara is unbelieveable over the course of the game. One thing that surprised me was how much they used Gillislee. If they continue to do that, paying that price might be tough to do with some other good matchups on the board like Cook/Latavius Murray playing BUF @ Home (and favored I'd assume) Ayayi playing IND @ Home, etc. Paying for some of these lower salaried RBs might allow me to pay up for some WRs like Julio Jones and Michael Thomas-- they're going to be in a shootout and has the second highest line (currently 53.5). I could see myself going back to Gurley at $9.2K. He gets much usage as well.

2. Not really in love with any cheap QBs and that's how I like to build my cash lineups. Every now and again I pay up and Mahomes, again, is someone I might go to in cash. He has the highest game total, is playing at home, and against a poor passing D in SF. He is in a nice spot. Matt Ryan might not be a bad option either at $5.7 (same price as Week 2 I believe) playing in a division game at home. Bortles too, maybe?

3. It seems like DK bumped up that price on Gio Benard appropriately since he is going to get a heavy work load. He is at 5.9K. Getting to value shouldn't be that much of an issue, just not sure if I want to play him just yet.

4. Lots of good, cheap TEs in decent matchups-- Cook ($4.0K) against MIA, Burton ($3.9K) against ARI, Doyle ($3.5K) against PHI. One player that is really interesting is Tyler Eifert at $3.2K against CAR. That is super cheap for a very talented player. There has been another TE that has been getting decent playing time (Ozumah), but DK says CAR is 20th against TE this year. Could be an interesting play.

5. This year, at least in cash, I will try to play the Team DEF that is playing Buffalo. This week it is Minnesota but very expensive at $4.3K. That might move people off them as they try to fit in a cheaper DEF to make roster construction work better.

Kamara was nicked early this week ... do u know how many snaps Kamara played in week 1 ... although it was a totally different game flow in week 1 so its not really a good indicator ...

My question is did the injury get Gillese more carries or is that how there going to utilize Kamara knowing he’s “slight” and is going to get worn down if they give him 15 - 20 carries a game ...

Will be interesting to see the price drop on him when Ingram comes back ...

You’d play Murray and hope he gets some “garbage” time stuff or do u think he wasn’t very involved this week cause they got behind early and Cooks a better recieving back .. although i don’t think Murrays a slouch catching the ball ...

What point total are u looking for from Geo to justify his salary? ..

I mentioned Murray because I think Cook got injured yesterday. If it's not serious and he plays, then no, I probably won't touch Murray, at least in cash. He is the same price as Bernard (maybe a $100 difference) so if Cook would be ruled out, I don't know who I would take to between the two...perhaps Benard?

For Bernard to pay off salary, I think he would need to get around 18 DK pts. He can catch the ball in the backfield so as DK gives 1 pt per reception, it helps him reach that perhaps more on DK than FanDuel where it's .5 pts per catch.

Ty sir ...

Cook said he just had a cramp ...

Any chance u can share your spreadsheet with me?

I'd suggest creating your own. There are tons of videos on YouTube that help you create one, and as you get comfortable doing it, you can add information you think is more relevant than others. There are also some free data points to look at here if you wanted to incorporate it into your own sheet.

https://rotogrinders.com/offers/nfl?site=fanduel

Will do ...

Thanks again ...

After i create mine maybe we can compare ...

Getting an extra sets on eyes on something i have done is never a negative IMO ..

So if u dont wanna compare at that point ... hopefully you’ll at least look at mine .. *L* ..

I take it your not interested in doing a weekly heads up with me starting at a buck for 2 or 3 weeks while i learn the nuances of it and then going to 3 or 5 bucks after that? ...

Oh ... on Eifert ... FWIW ...

I wrote his first weeks performance off to rust ...

Last week my brother told me Eifert does not look the same that the injuries have taken there toll on him .. I couldn’t have agreed more ...

I'm happy to play a cheap head-to-head contest. Shoot me a DM with your DraftKings username. I'll send an invite.

Yeah, I don't doubt that they have taken a toll. He has had many. I was thinking they might be easing him into the role and the increased snap count but maybe not. Maybe this is all we're gonna get out of Eifert moving forward.

Might switch it up this week---All of my tournament lineups may only come from 3 games:

KC v SF
ATL v NO
IND v PHI

Maybe a couple MIN players too.

I had Bernard and Coleman penciled in as cash game RBs, but with Corey Clement possibly starting, that opens up some value perhaps. If you had to choose between Bernard and Coleman who would you pick? I'm not playing all three because I have Kamara locked in for the time being.

I’ll get back to u on bernard or Coleman ....

Did u see Cook’s out ...

Did u know that or does tha change your decision making at alll ...

I get back to u tomorrow ... also PM u my draft kings user name so we can do that head to head ...

I'll send you a invite for this weekend's contest. Normally just do the 1 and 4pm game slate. Hope that's cool w/ you.

Week 3 Recap:

My return on the week, overall, was 66.7% but it could have been close to 0%. I BARELY made the cash line in all the single entry double-ups I entered. 3 or 4 points less and it would have been a big goose egg for me. I got super lucky. In GPPs, it was a 10% return. Picked the right guys but built my lineups without the right combination, and didn't have Calvin Ridley in any lineups.

Cash Lineup- 156.00
QB: D. Watson- 29.00
RB: A. Kamara- 37.00
RB: C. Clement- 10.50
WR: J. Jones- 14.60
WR: C. Kupp- 16.80
WR: T. Boyd- 28.70
TE: E. Ebron- 8.30
LF: L. Murray- 8.10
DF: Vikings- 3.00

I had instant regret playing Murray once Bernard starting catching passes in the backfield for the Bengals early in the game. I deviated completely from my approach of getting pass catching RBs when I had to make the decision between the two. The Vikings D was a big shocker and I did not see the game going the way it did. 11 points out of those two spots is not good. I had Drew Brees in there too at one point and paying down for a defense. I need to be better at taking relatively cheap QBs in high scoring games. That Kamara OT touchdown that was reversed had me freaking out.

Best GPP Lineup- 193.66
QB: M. Ryan- 43.16
RB: A. Kamara- 37.00
RB: K. Hunt- 16.40
WR: M. Thomas- 25.90
WR: S. Watkins- 18.50
WR: M. Sanu- 15.60
TE: E. Ebron- 8.30
FL: K. Rudolph- 15.80
DF: Bears- 13.00

All GPP lineups had a ton of guys from ATL/NO and KC/SF. I played a few double TE lineups to differentiate from other entrants and thought MIN would score a good amount but most would lean towards Theilen or Diggs. Rudolph would also be very different. Oh well.

Week 4 Lineup Thoughts.....

I'm really liking Dalton at first glance in cash games. Next would be Baker. Both are cheap, in pretty good match-ups. Dalton seems safer as of right now.

Melvin Gordon looks like my favorite RB. Playing SF at home and can catch. Decently priced as well on DK.

Both Gio Bernard and Tyler Boyd are still too cheap. With Dalton in mind, maybe there will be a Bengals stack in one of my GPPs.

It's tough not to consider Landry with all of the looks he has been getting through three weeks. And because of that his price is really high at 7.4K Not sure I can go there...we'll see. I think it might be another cheap WR week for me.

Played Ebron last week and might go back to him again. Saw way too many targets with Doyle out and Luck can't throw deep. Trey Burton is someone who also is cheap but Trubisky seems to target Allen Robinson more. Njoku is also super cheap and should be getting more looks.

There are some injuries out there that may open up some value at the WR spot.

My first glance i liked dalton and ryan .... i like them for cash and i like them to stack in gpp’s ...

Love Gordon ... he’s my #1 RB choice this week ....

Love gio .... atlanta can’t stop recieving RB’s ... and he got 100% of the RB touches last week ...

Agree on Boyd .... Callaway is a huge value this week at 4500 IMO ...

Like Hooper at TE ... he’s inexpensive and frees up salary to get another possible stud ...

This is a ton of fun ...

I really enjoy it ...

There’s alot to it .. i don’t understand a lot of it yet ...

I'd like Jared Cook this week ... he's been a pretty solid contributor for OAK and I wouldn't think he'd be expensive

QB? Go with Keenum against KC ... they'll be trailing and he'll be throwing against a bad D

And it's the highest game total for the week. If people play Thu-Mon slates Keenum should be a great play.

yeah i agree

Do u play dfs 4life?

Larry Fitzgerald at $5K w/ a rookie QB who might need a reliable WR to throw to is tempting.

Last night i played in a beginners ten team 80% up ... they call it a double up but it cost a buck and u only get 1.80 back ... thats not a double up .... *L* ...

I lost by .50 .... scored 166.25 and came in 6th .... good news is thats my highest score yet .... *L* ...

I set a couple line ups ... here’s the contests and my line ups ... please advise ... i want to make sure i understand the “strategies” for the different games ... please tell me what u would’ve do different and WHY ...

These will all be beginners contests ... i’m Gonna statrt with one and then after u give me feedback on that one i’ll Post the 2nd one ... these are all on DK ...

This one 3500 + people in it ... it pays out the top 700 places with 1st place getting 150 ...

Would this be considered a gpp? ... i think that cause of how many players there are ...

I played Dalton, Bernard and Boyd as my stack .... they say thats a good strategy in gpp’s and i am not high on any of the high priced qb’s and i love Gio and Boyd this week in what should be a high scoring affair ... played Ridley cause he’s still a good price IMO and u get a WR in a high scoring game ....

Love Gordon this week ... rounded out my WR’s with Callaway .... hes a steal this week IMO ... took Hyde as my flex and that left me enough money for Gronk as my TE ... i played the Browns D ...

Please advise ... ty sir ...

Well the house has to take money somehow with only two players.

I like Gordon too. You can never go wrong with Kamara. Tevin Coleman has been on the wrong side of TD variance and he would be a great player to run it back with if you have Daulton, Bernard, and Boyd. That's a full game stack right there. Unfortunately, tons of people are going to be on Bernard and Boyd, so you don't really differentiate your lineup in large tournaments going that route.

Baker to Callaway has a poor man's vibe of Mahomes to Hill to me. Big arm to fast WR. Just get it deep and hope he makes a play or three. However, I suspect Mayfield might have some healthy ownership this week as well as a cheap QB who played well last week and is going against a bad team.

And yes, that 3500+ would be considered a GPP.

So I’m on the right track strategically when it comes to gpp lineups? ....

Do u always stack or it just depends on the week? ...

In tournaments I usually always stack my QB with a RB, WR, or TE. Somethimes I'll stack the QB with a couple players. Also, you can stack your RB with a Defense if you think the team will be favored and will run a ton. I don't always stack in cash lineups.

Sometimes you can go "naked" with a QB and not correlate him with receiver or RB. People have done that with Brady who can spread the ball around to many receivers and whose targets aren't funneled towards certain players or a QB that has good running equity and can score with their legs.

My 2nd line up is in a 3 person tourny ... this would be considered a cash game? ... if not, what is it?

In these i guess were suppose to diversify .... i didn’t do that ... i really like those bungles ...

Dalton
Gio
Gordon
Boyd
Ridley
Callaway
Burton
Barkley
Jags ...

Your thoughts .. what you’d do different? ... am i too invested on one game for a cash game? ...

Yeah, against three people is essentially a cash game. And I like the lineup alot. I got a lot of the same players as you as of today. Not sure if Ridley will live up to last week but he is still very cheap. Same with Boydo. That Giants game might be a high scoring one, so Barkely involvement could be at very high level.

In the cash games do u usually “diversify” or stack your qb with at least one other player? ...

My 3rd lineup ... its a 229 player double up ... is that considered cash or a tourny? ...

Eli
Gordon
Gio
S. Shepherd (#2’s been lighting it up against NO)
Landry
Boyd
Burton
Ridley
Jags

Thoughts? ... is stacking a good option here? ...

I don't need to pair my QB with another person(s) on the same team in cash games. Although it does happen from time to time, for sure. I look for value, not position correlation for the top score. I only need to get to top 50% range to win money in cash, not 18% in a tiered GPP system. So I play the guys I think have the best value and the chance to perform regardless of ownership or stacking preference.

So to answer your question, I don't aim to diversify or stack. I look for value based on the structure I've created to build cash lineups. That value comes from match-ups, pricing, targets opportunity, RBs at home that can catch (mentioned that earlier, but it's not a hard/fast rule per se), etc. If diversity or stacks happens, it's a byproduct of my process, if that makes any sense.

Double ups, triple ups are cash games.

For double ups, 3-person tourneys, I would normally use the same lineup--My cash lineup. But that's just me. Many don't. Some will play in hundreds of cash games but play two or three lineups simply to hedge their bet. It's all personal preference.