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FBI investigating 3 sexual harassment/assault incidents involving Brett Kavanaugh. Good thing acquiescent rapists only strike once in their life time and aren't predators who hunt down females like prey.

Why would the FBI discuss an investigation with the LA Times or MSNBC? I was hoping they moved on from the practices of Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe and Jim Comey.

Look at this dude who has no idea how the FBI works.

Broke: Celebrating the FBI for shooting MLK Jr.
Woke: Not wanting any bad agents like Andrew McCabe

Please enlighten me how the FBI works in these situations without the snarky remarks!

I'd be happy to enlighten you. You'll just need to quit it with the Breitbart pizzagate conspiracies first.

Please just stop. Any idiot can tell Ford was flat out lying while on the stand. One minute the party is so loud she can't hear anything and the next she can listen in on a conversation in another room.

This is pure political assassination by any means necessary for dems trying to block ANY supreme court nominee. It's funny the main two male senators fighting for the CAUSE are both criminals. One is a self admitted pedophile who molested a child and the other one illegally posed as a veteran when he never even served in the military. What great champions of justice for the liberals.

It's just disgusting that any of you even believe this crap from Ford.

Describing yourself in this manner does not help your argument.

Maryland authorities say they'll investigate Kavanaugh -- if a victim files a complaint

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-complaint.html

Authorities in Maryland on Friday said they were prepared to conduct a state-level criminal investigation into sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh -- provided that a victim comes forward.

The disclosure by Montgomery County Police Chief J. Thomas Manger and Montgomery County State’s Attorney John McCarthy came Friday, the same day that President Trump ordered the FBI to conduct a limited "supplemental" investigation.

But Manger and McCarthy noted that prosecution was unlikely in Maryland because authorities would have to apply the law that existed at the time of the offense, not the law that exists now, Baltimore's FOX 45 News reported.

"“For example, in 1982, assault and attempted rape were both misdemeanors and subject to a one-year statute of limitations,” they wrote."

But they added: “The Montgomery County Police Department and the Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s Office stand ready to investigate any sexual assault allegation from any victim where the incident occurred in our jurisdiction.”...

I wonder what the 1982 law was for drugging, kidnapping, rape and gangrape?

The FBI won't be conducting a criminal investigation as is the impression people are trying to associate it as. At most what they are going to be doing is supplementing the background check they've already conducted on Kav, not much above the equivalence of a reference check.

This was the point Kav and Reps were making. The only thing the FBI would do is interview people, write their statements down, then put it on paper... just like what was done by the Senate Committee already. They aren't going to make any conclusions.

But the Dems already know this. They already know that there isn't going to be any new information that comes out over the next week as it relates to Dr. Ford (or the other 2 current allegations).

It's stunning, yet not surprising because we've seen this coming incrementally from liberals, just how supportive people are of the Democrats exploiting not only Dr. Ford, but the whole issue of sexual assault. And that's what this is, pure and simple even if Kav actually did this. Even you Dawgs that claim this is a legitimate path forward have to know this deep down. Too many of you have shown at least a glimpse one time or another of rational thought and decency.

I watched the hearings and while I'm not convinced of her claim (amongst other things I find it difficult that a) someone with a Doctorate involved in political activity would have zero idea how to contact their Congressman but know how to contact a national newspaper and it's highly implausible that someone with such a high level degree in Psychology would have to have what a Forensic Interview is explained to them.) , I'm going to make my point from the position that what she has alleged did happen.


I can't really hold the fact she waited 30+ years to do anything about it against her. You can't really force a time line on when to report such a thing on a victim. A victim has to feel sufficiently empowered in order to ring it to light and get the process moving. In the same vein I don't think you can necessarily hold it against her that she sent the letter and wished it to remain confidential. In the last couple years here in NC we started up a program where a victim can have a rape kit done without reporting it to police. The kit is then stored and held as evidence by a 3rd party until the day the victim should choose to report and move forward.

Now one of the things I haven't heard the Democrats deny was that the allegations could have been looked in to way back without compromising Ms. Ford's wish for anonymity. Seeing as there's nothing to believe that isn't true, the Democrats had a moral responsibility to get that process going for all the reasons they state this week delay is necessary now.

For argument's sake, let's say the letter was never leaked and Dr. Ford would have not come forward and the Kav nomination would have gone all the way to the floor for a final vote without anyone outside of the small group of people knowing about the incident... the Democrats still would have had a duty to explore the matter to ensure a past attempted rapist wasn't going up to SCOTUS. After all, they claim it is a credible allegation right?

Furthermore, the Democrats purposefully set her up so that her credibility would easily be called in to question.

-Let's do a polygraph in a hotel room on the day of your mother's funeral. That's a very odd choice of timing considering there was no hurry as she said she didn't want to come forward with it.

**I'm willing to bet that if the polygraph results are made public, there will be some discrepancies on key questions, discrepancies that will be explained away due to Dr. Ford's emotional state of her mother's passing

-Many people, even her critics, believe her when she said she didn't know there had been an offer made to conduct the interview at her home or other place of choosing instead of having to appear in such a public forum. You don't have to be Alex Jones to think it's plausible that the attorneys recommended by the Ranking Member (Democrat) would purposefully have withheld that from her in order to pressure who to appear in public.

They needed her to be in public to get the effect they were going after.

Then we have the leak, purposefully done when the Democrats were unable to derail the nomination through above water means. They call her brave for coming out and "telling her truth". And that may be. But remember what i said about victims needing to feel sufficiently empowered to make the choice to report their assault and move through the process? They stole that choice from her. Making that choice is a key component in healing from an event like that and they took that from her. She's certainly feeling the love right now, but they made a martyr out of her. Martyrs only feel that love as long as their sacrifice is relevant.

Damn straight people should feel dirty about this process.


A couple notes before I end this until tonight:

- I don't know enough about Jeff Flake to know what his natural demeanor is, but at the vote he looked like he had just gotten off the phone with someone who told him the Clinton Fixer was at his house with his wife and kids

-DiFi has no clue what the hell is going on

-I keep expecting Jordan Peele to be sitting behind Corey Booker. I swear he looks like Key

-Sen Cooms has already tipped the Democrat hand for the next week. I watched the vote, the discussion brought forth by Flake's comments, and some after interviews. During the discussion before the 2 hour rule LOL, the Democrats were agreeing to a 1 week extension, limited in time (to the 1 week) and scope (expressly to the 3 current allegations). FFWD to Sen. Cooms interview, he said limited in time and scope for the current allegations and any that come up.

Here's my prediction: the 1 week does not reveal anything further of substance about the 3 current allegations. By the end of this weekend we'll see the first of between 3 and 4 new accusers, all with specifically vague allegations (remember, the Democrats have successfully lowered the bar on the definition of "credible"), and at the end of the week the Democrats will complain that 1 week is not enough time in light of all the new allegations. The Republicans will be in the same position they found themselves in now, Mitch isn't going to push it off any longer, and the Democrats will try to claim righteous indignation about a guy they were never going to vote for anyway.

If I was a Republican I'd make the deal but have the Democrats pushing for it make a public promise to vote Kav through if nothing of substance is uncovered.

Anyway, time for a beer!

You could have a beer with Justice Kavanaugh, he really likes beer.

I will even buy him a beer ..... or two

It was certainly not the demeanor a Supreme Court Judge should have. If people were to talk to Kavanaugh in that manner or give out crazy conspiracy theories, Kav would throw them out of his court room.

Imagine how he acts when he’s drunk.

It's no wonder why all of his Yale classmates have tried to contact the FBI about perjury in relating to his answers about drinking.

Gotcha. Well, I guess I'm an idiot. Because I found her testimony about the event 35 years ago just as believable as his

I hope this week DOES answer all the questions. It's only going to get worse between the tribes until Kavanaugh is either confirmed, replaced, or charged. If he's clean, the GOP has all the votes they need without a single Dem... And that's the way the vote should go because Kavanaugh obviously hates everything about Dems and liberals.

Personally I don't think he's fit to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of his life; but I don't think Trump is fit to be president either.

Maryland authorities say they'll investigate Kavanaugh -- if a victim files a complaint

Authorities in Maryland on Friday said they were prepared to conduct a state-level criminal investigation into sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh -- provided that a victim comes forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-complaint.html

USA Today hit piece says Kavanaugh should 'stay off basketball courts when kids are around'

USA Today got slammed on social media after publishing an “evil” article saying Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh should stay away from coaching girls’ basketball because of sexual assault allegations.

“The U.S. Senate may yet confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, but he should stay off basketball courts for now when kids are around,” reads the article by a staff sportswriter.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...are-around.html

I don't understand how 'authorities' doing there job is news. Obviously if nobody comes forward they can't investigate something that they have no knowledge of ever happening. On the other hand if a witness or accuser comes forward what the hell else would the 'authorities' do BUT investigate? Fox spins everything into trog food.

Until he's cleared of the allegations, it's only common sense that he should not have contact with those young girls. They aren't calling him guilty, they are stating the obvious. Another spin for trogs.

Kavanaugh threatened anew with impeachment as Supreme Court vote nears

Democrats renewed threats to impeach Judge Brett Kavanaugh should he be confirmed to the high court, as Republicans moved forward with a series of votes heading into the weekend.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...vote-nears.html

Some of you guys crack me up. None of this happened with Neil Gorsuch. None of it. A Trump nominee was appointed to the court just last year. Now that he nominated what could turn out to be a scum bag you want to blame the Dems. You're hilarious.

Gorsuch wasn't the swing vote.

Democrats can't allow Cavanaugh onto the court, especially not with an 85 year old Ruth Bader Ginsburg and an 80 year old Stephen Breyer potentially near the end. (especially if Trump wins a second term)

They have to stop Cavanaugh and hope that they win back the Senate. However, if they succeed in destroying this man's life, and stopping him from being confirmed, I suspect that Trump will have another nominee ready, one they can't slander

In fact, they may just be faced with Amy Coney Barrett, who is seen as more willing to reopen Supreme Court precedent .... such as Roe vs. Wade.

They may very well wish they had accepted Cavanaugh. I think that there are a number of judges the Democrats would like a whole lot less, and some they won't be able to smear like they have Cavanaugh.

By the way, here's a prediction. Once the FBI report is finished, some other allegation will pop up .... or Dr. Ford will do what she has not done thus far, and file a local police report. They will do anything they can to stop him.

I wasn't a fan of the Cavanaugh pick when it was made. If they do stop him, I look forward to 46 year old Justice Amy Coney Barrett ascending to the Court .....and liberals being completely despondent for decades to come.

Plan B.

Except ACB won’t get confirmed cause of the moderate female republicans like Collins who won’t vote for a pro life judge.

Oops.

Nope. According to Plan-B, she is in.
Guaranteed.

That is all I will say about Plan-B for now.

ACB may not be plan B. There are other more experienced judges out there. And probably more conservative.

However, if ACB is plan B and people like Collins do not vote for her, people like Manchin would, and she would be confirmed.

Oops.

That’s if y’all can even push it through fast enough.

Lol. With the current debacle, who knows how long this Kavanaugh saga last.

Y’all might be on plan F when it’s all said it done.

Ouch.

Trump won't let it linger. He will pull Kavanaugh well before mid terms.
Ouch!!

If no credible charges have not been brought by now, it is too late to investigate anything other than the claims Dr. Ford brought. There will be a full senate vote by Tuesday, October 9. That is my prediction. If that is not the case, the Republicans can kiss the senate goodbye.

You know, it's odd how Christians feel it's such a wonderful thing for the GOP to stall even having hearings on an Obama nominee for almost a year, but look forward to swinging the SCOTUS by hook or by crook.

Christian values?

Republicans have stuck with the Process as it is intended.
Your Hooks and Crooks are on the other side of the isle.

There doesnt need to be any charges. They just need to prove he has lied at any point during this investigation. You cant have a supreme court judge who lies.

Where does it say you have the right to ignore a SCOTUS nominee in the last year of a presidency?

Here's a clue for you. It doesn't.