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Todd Haley: We have to find solutions to problems

Todd Haley addressed the media following practice on September 13, 2018.

I like him a lot... I wanted to see better play calls... But then again he cant show his same hand against a opening opponent he just coached from....

Also its new talent from all aspects.... only one game in...lets give it a few weeks to gel...

Frankly, I'm not going to be calling for anyone's job till after the season.. At least I don't think so right now.

I thought it was interesting that he called 20 or so mental errors on offense saying that you won't win if you do 10..

I want Haley as our HC and sooner rather then later.

this press conference alone shows you how much better of a coach he is then Jackson,

if anyone could hoenstly turn things around here, its probably him. Haley HATES to lose, probably more then anyone. the guys is insanely competitive.

Kurt Warner raved about how good of a coach Haley is and how Todd Haley pushed him to the limit to be the best player he could be. this is the kinda guy you want as your HC not Hue Jackson.

You listen to Kurt Warner by clicking the play button in this audio podcast its starts within the 1st minute of the interview

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/02/13/former-cardinals-qb-warner-talks-todd-haley/

this is the guy right here this organization needs more than ever calling the shots here. He will through hell or high water dig this franchise out of this hole or have a heart attack trying, There will be no doubts that he is not ok with losing games, because this guy gets fired up, but he is also a great coach.

I grimaced as soon as you started this thread because I knew it would soon become a thread about firing Hue.

I know what you mean. Might as well get used to it. A win on Sunday or on Thursday night is going to be critical.

It is what it is. Hue doesn't have a lot of fan support at the moment.

And here we go (again).

Why should he though. He is 1-31-1 its the worst record of modern football. He has put this city through the most painful god awful football in its entire existence.

Like on Hard Knocks when Tyrod Taylor has to tell Hue Jackson "Ya know, why don't you film the practice and then show it to the guys so they can see how they are lagging in in practice" You know because Hue the Head Coach never thought of that...are you kidding me?

the players don't really respect him because he is loser.

Like when Jackson condescnedingly laughs at Haley when Haley tells him we can't live in our fears and must work, and then Jackson gives his speech about "sitting in the head coaches chair"

what a loser...Neither Greg Williams nor Todd Haley have any respect for this doormat at all. Its very doubtful we will be successful as long as Jackson is running things...He lack leadership, he isn't able to take charge of this team, players don't really respect him. the Haslam's should have shown him the door at the end of the year...

We have seen that guys that push too much the players usually are good assistant coaches but very bad head coaches. The NE syndrome...


I personally like College coaches the best. Would love to see Urban coaching the Browns.

j/c:

Anyone want to talk about Haley and the offense rather than firing the HC? I have some thoughts about bonefish's initial post and what he wanted to discuss in this thread, but I don't want to waste my time if this is just a "Fire Hue" thread.

I think Haley is a bright guy who knows what's important to an offense. I think he is very driven and hates the obstacles that he has to deal with.

I think that our offense is going to struggle this year. While I recognize that we drastically improved the talent, we have some things that going to take time to iron out.

--We are learning a new system.

--We have a new qb.

--We have a new LT.

--We have a new RT.

--We have two new RBs.

--We have a new WR.

--Gordon missed most of last year and TC this year.

--Njoku is in his second year and is inconsistent.

--The OL hasn't jelled.

--We have a qb who holds the ball too long.

--We have not had enough reps and time together to have jelled.

I am hoping that our ownership remains patient and keeps everyone in place and that Baker is ready to start next year. I think that is when we will really see this offense to make great strides.

If those things are truly our obstacles this year (and not something more serious and unsolvable like lack of talent or poor coaching), then I'd expect to see noticeable improvement on the field as the season goes on (barring injuries). It's still not a quantitative measure, but it should be obvious that our play is improving the more time this team plays together.

I expect the team to steadily play better as the year goes on.

I listen to that and I think that this guy is exactly who we need exactly where he is.

Listening to that and thinking that you want him as HC is like the folks on here that see a good CB and come up with the whizbang idea of "hey, we should move him to FS!"..

Briean Boddy-Calhoun?

I agree w/you. We should have fewer penalties as the season progresses and the continuity and cohesiveness should improve.

I wrote down "next year" because if Baker was truly worth drafting at number 1, he will make the O so much better than Taylor can.

Haley was talking about the fact that there have been so many passes thrown between big ben, AB, juju, jess james, etc.

this offensive group is new starters, new QB. gonna take time.

Haley is an egomaniac. When in charge his ego runs amuck. He is best when he has a strong head coach who can keep him in check (like Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh).

If cohesion and unit familiarity are the ingredients that are going to improve this team then where I want to see it take hold first is the offensive line. If those guys can make their assignments, get to the second level, pick up line stunts, etc. Eliminate the unforced errors. That should lead to direct improvement among the skill positions.

While Taylor held the ball too long, there were way too many breakdowns on the OL and the back who was supposed to help w/pass pro.

Taylor did hold the ball too long.

I am not where you are yet. Especially on the basis of interviews. I am open to all things including game plans, play calling, and wins. Too soon for me FWIW.

I gotta tell you these gadget play calls are just stupid. Even now when they "magically" do work, I think they're still stupid.

Todd is also worse than Hue in sticking with the run. Even when the run game is working and there's no need to go completely pass heavy, he abandons it too.

We can't get right, nowhere/anywhere. We're always going have to have Losing Sundays as a Browns fan.

My one complaint is that we had a guy who had 2 long TD on a total of 3 carries, and then we stopped giving him the ball.

I don't get that.

I think he gets too cute at times ... at KEY times. Like the Callaway flip play on the goalline. It was a poor call AND poorly executed

Yet the Bears ran the same play in their game, and it went for a TD.

Marty said that play calling is overrated. He's right in that execution makes plays look good.

That play is a staple of many teams' red zone sets. It normally works to success.

Who cares if it works or doesn't for other teams. It's clear the gadget plays are NOT working for OUR young offense, so stop wasting downs and as said, it seems like CRUCIAL times/downs, on these plays Todd.

It's not working, stop dialing them up. Can't wait to see them fail next game though, probably on the goal line.

Ytown, don’t you know that for some fans an unsuccessful play is by definition bad play calling.

It's true, plays called that work are always a great idea...LOL

I really don't feel as if there was bad play calling.. But execution was not all that good at times.

I don't mind gimmick plays, but we haven't been successful enough at them to keep running as many as we are. We are better at smash mouth ball.

I'd rather them practice these "gadget plays" than practice plays under center. Let's work to our strengths. I gotta admit the triple option rpos or play actions are extremely weird. I thought Haley was doing lines of bath salts, but I'm interested to see where he goes with it. My knock on Hue and Haley is that they've historically had moronic plays that may have been good in 2008, but not in 2018. With Baker in charge, it seems like they're updating their offense. I can't wait to see what they make of it.

I understand using gimmicks as a near last resort when you're struggling to get things going, but the problem is that 90% of the time, gimmicks just don't work (unless you're playing the Browns).

Unfortunately, Haley doesn't realize, yet, that he IS us, not playing against us, and those gimmicks stand FAR less a chance of working now.

Chiefs, Bears and many others run them to success against NFL defenses all the time. They're not gimmick plays anymore, they're actual NFL plays. It's about time the Browns start to use them.

No offense but I couldn't possibly disagree more. For the short and long term success of the team and more specifically, to Baker.

If anything, we need to can/scrap the gadget/trick plays because for every one that works (or is "executed properly"), ton more have failed. Get it out and practice stuff that works when we need it on game day... like running the ball with your big 230+ lb backs or something...

All JMO of course.

These are not gimmick plays. Many NFL teams run these plays on the regular and most college teams run them. These are plays that Mayfield ran frequently at Oklahoma.

I'll take that with a grain of salt while emphasizing that just because they're doing it is no justification for us trying it.



No, they're still gimmicks. It's an attempt at on-the-field sleight of hand with misdirection - but we have proven ourselves utterly incapable of executing it. All we've done is when the opponent sees these formations, their ends know to stay home because there's a 90% chance the play is coming back to them. Hell, we're coaching the opponent to set our edges.