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i was beginning to think i was the only one who saw that.

i dunno whats wrong with that dude. he reminds me of someone you would see on "making a murderer".

I try not to venture into the political section too often, it's just such a nasty place to visit. Every now and then I do wander in here, as I did just now, and I read this. I'm glad I didn't see that post, but as described, sounds disgusting.

I wish they could give us a feature to block from our view, individual forums, as I would surely block this one.

I was suspended the last three days, but I was lurking and saw the post. I noticed you caught it. I think what is telling, is that the post was overly horrid, you were not even mad - but almost just in shock. lol I was. I mean I have seen him post some questionable things, but saying lets get the BBQ going, then post a pic of a person on fire.......nah man, that's lunatic silence of the lambs stuff there.

I saw that post too but refused to comment or acknowledge it. He's just creepy.

Jesus Christ. I only saw a thumbnail of the picture. I didn't know what was on fire, and didn't care. but that's horrific. He's made a few temper tantrum like posts, that had to be deleted recently, but if his only answer to that is to post gore, then he should be banned for life. I get that the refs are giving us all a pass on many things, for football season, but I hope that doesn't apply in this case.

Yeah, it was hard to tell in the background but from I saw it was clansman dressed in garb in the background, surrounded by a car with the door open (presumably owned by the man who was drugged out of it and set on fire). His caption I believe was posted to Arch - WHOM I KNOW DOES NOT CONDONE THIS OR THAT POST - and it said something to the paraphrase "hey arch, lets start the BBQ's" or "its time to get the BBQs"

I am all for free speech. Even if I disagree with it, even if its disgusting in nature. You wanna say you hate white people, or hate black people, or Asian etc. that's disgusting and sad to say. But its your right to. HOWEVER, once you start posting inclinations of murder, torture, and setting people on fire - that is not protected speech. That is a diabolic threat, and I honestly think it should be reported to authorities.

I scrolled past it. I honestly just thought it was the very famous photo of the monk that lit himself on fire in protest of the Vietnam war. (Here for reference... https://goo.gl/images/Lwpq5Y )
If it wasn’t that...rocky should be tossed.
If it was that image but used in the context being described he should be tossed for good.

That may have been the image - ill give that. but he certainly used it in the disgusting way possible. and couple that with some of the way out there post he has thrown up in the past, and blatantly morbid comments...he has a long history lets just leave it at that.

That wasn't the image. It was from a different pov and looked a lot more american western.

Right on. Like I said I scrolled past it quickly on my iPhone 5. So it was small and my mind just read it as the monk photo.
He’s a poster I don’t generally read much as I’m not a fan of his politics and social world view. So I didn’t read the post either.

If it was what is being described it’s not surprising coming from him. My hope is he’s gone now.

Actually, you are wrong, that was the exact image he used. He has been suspended and we are discussing the length. That is as far as I will go in posting about this publicly.

Please return to the topic discussion.

Fair enough, I only saw it on my phone, like Portland said, I don't read Rocky's post longer than it takes to scroll past them.

3 of the 4 on the fence Senators Kavanaugh would need to be confirmed voted yes to advance his nomination.

I suspect that he'll get 51 or 52 votes, with some vulnerable Democrats in states Trump won by a large margin deciding to go with the vote. I suspect Manchin will vote for Kavanaugh, because if he doesn't, his Senate career will end at the next election. I could see a huge swing against him if he goes against a President who is extremely popular in WV, and who won the state overwhelmingly.

51-49

Manchin - YES may be a no on final if his vote would be the 50th IMHO should lose his party affiliation over this if Kav confirmed.

Flake- YES maybe a no on final vote but unlikely.

Collins- YES Will state her final vote today at 3:pm... very likely a Yes on the final and doing it at 3 for Flake to know well in advance. If she comes out at 3 with a no, Manchin would be the 50th vote.

Murkowski - NO she voted what her constituents wanted. Good for her.

Looks like Manchin voted what his constituents wanted. Good for him. Would be nice to see more Democrats like him.

The Senate Should Not Confirm Kavanaugh Signed, 2,400+ Law Professors

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/03/opinion/kavanaugh-law-professors-letter.html

Manchin is every bit a politician and garbage human being. He will be voted out no matter what he does.

**Man if you guys think this nomination was a nasty process, wait til Ruth's seat comes open

Cool story, bro.

So now that we have gone past allegations with no evidence, moved from assault to rape, moved from drinking to boofing, now we are on "he makes mean faces" when accused of rape.

SMH.

The Left and the Democrats, if there is even a difference anymore, were emotionally over the top from the time before Trump even made his pick. They swore to delay or stop any pick he made.

This was no longer about justice, qualifications or lack thereof.

They made this a political issue from day one. Today, the sides are chosen and no one is listening.

Bring on the vote!

The deplorables win. As expected they all say they take sexual assault charges seriously, but they don’t. Deplorable.

Actually I don't believe that's it at all. I never once accused Kavanaugh of being guilty. Not once. It's far too much of a he said/she said for me to form an educated opinion on that.

But when a man starts screaming about "This is revenge for the Clintons" and "millions of liberal dollars have been paid" , he begins to sound like a raving lunatic.

See, I'm trying to look at things from both sides. I think Feinestein holding the letter until the last minute was purely political. But I have seen zero evidence that anyone paid off Ford or that this is somehow "revenge for the Clintons". The man sounded unhinged in his testimony.

Kavanaugh himself has stated that a judge has to be calm and non partisan. The way he attacked those questioning him and his general partisan rants, according to his own description of what is needed to be a judge just don't add up to me.

I feel the need to add a few things here.

1. I glanced at the picture. Didn't realize what it was until......I think it was swish? said something.


2. What his (rocky) words to me were: Have you started the bbq again this summer.(grill), and I took that as a shot against me due to my accident in July where I burned my face SOME, lost most of 1 eyebrow, most of 1 eyes lashes, a little bit of the other brow and lashes, some of my hair on my head, and all the hair from my elbow down on my right hand. As well as what turned out to be a nasty blister on my nose.




Had I realized exactly what the picture was, (looked at for more than a split second) I would've responded at the time.

He'll be asked to recuse himself everytime the case is political or involves a female based side. Big win for the GOP if he gets the votes tomorrow like today. I think there is still a slim chance he doesn't get those votes.

Fair enough thought process. There has been so much vile going around on this topic, you will have excuse me with not knowing off hand who has/hasn't.

Or spot on He was part of the Ken Starr Team, correct? And lets face it, love them or hate them, the Clintons are very good at politics. VERY GOOD. And I would not be surprised if they were backing this charade.

I agree. I don't think the DNC was paying Ford. I actually think Ford was assaulted, I just don't think it was Kavanaugh, and certainly don't think she knows if it was HIM or not. I have seen zero evidence she was paid off, and I have seen 0 evidence he assaulted her.

As far as the Clintons, I don't think he was meaning they were paying her, I think he meant they were using influence to keep this going, as a political figures do. she has been pretty vocal about him, no?

That was not being questioned, he was being accused first of sexual assault, then they moved the goal post to rape. Sorry, a judge is to control a court room and not let grandstanding. he acted as any person would who was being falsely accused of rape - and acted as any judge would of any lawyer grandstanding in a courtroom. That was not a "job interview" as some have tried to play if off as (if you control the language, you control the issue - this is why they keep saying rape and job interview), it was a purely evil hit piece on a man in front of a nation and his family.

I completely agree with Devil and his take on this.

But he was the lawyer grandstanding at the end of the day

I guess then, according to this thought process, we can all just scream some made up things and the answer should always be "Or he's spot on" with zero evidence to suggest that some hair brained theory is correct?



Yet whether you are right or wrong here, which you have nothing but innuendo to base this on, that's nothing close to what the man was suggesting.



Yet had anyone acted the way he did in a court of law, they would have been charged with contempt. No, this isn't the way anyone falsely accused would act. And yes, it was a job interview. Nobody would hire a man who acted as he did through this process.

just watched Senator Collins speech live. she'll be voting to confirm kavanaugh.

please, DT, and the country, move the hell on. we have a bunch of other things to worry about right now.

and as i said before, Collins wouldn't vote for kavanaugh if she knew the guy was gonna vote to overturn roe v wade. i much rather have kavanaugh on the bench than that crazy ass lady Trump originally wanted, cause that was a DEFINITE vote to overturn roe v wade.

I do not think Kavanaugh would overturn Roe vs Wade. Not sure any judge would this day in age.

I didn't care much for Kavanaugh because he is a Bush guy and kind of soft.

But now that he has had a personal taste of just how vindictive and evil the Left is, I feel he is ready for the Supreme Court.

Thanks for hardening up my boy.
Now lets put him in a position where he can make a difference.

So he wasn't your boy until he was your boy? Considering the source that makes perfect sense.

Yup .. Totally agree, I’m moving on to November. Vote vote vote.

And right there ladies and gents, you can see the epitome of fake outrage.

Poor poor perfect...you hit squad lost and now your trying to take the high ground. pathetic. We all know the vile things you said about an innocent man, and now that the world has caught on, you just want to forget about it.

Sorry bud, the world calls you and your friends bluff, and this will backfire on the left come November. Thanks for ensuring the house to the right again.....peace out.

One caveat here. It was a bunch of Republican senators that approved Kavanagh, not the voters.

I don't believe either side should be jumping to conclusions about the upcoming election.

Well.............that IS kinda how the system works. Right? Kind of like the presidential election - which goes by the electoral college. A scotus goes by the senate. I mean, it's the system. Hate it? Change it.

So we have a traitor in the white house, a probable felon or two on the scotus, and an evil demon tortoise running the senate... democracy is doomed.

Hello Hell...

I'll stay mad for the rest of you to laugh at.

I had a 3 hour drive and listened to the Susan Collins speech ... I wish there were more politicians with her intelligence and ability to succinctly analyze an issue say something meaningful as she did.

I might not have voted for Kavanaugh if I held a vote. But Susan Collins gave me confidence that not all those casting votes are shameless political animals who merely vote based on politics. And that goes for both Dems and Reps.

Interestingly - I think Trump went back to lashing out and being a douche bag on this subject and in doing so he has motivated his base. Says a lot to me.

As for the presumption of innocence and arguments for and against believing Dr Rose ... there was a fantastic segment on NPR Science Friday with Dr Cheng who is an author of book on Logic .... she broke down how to use logic to analyze the situation with Kavanaugh Rose. I recommend listening to the full 25 minutes

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/using-logic-in-a-maddening-world/

For the Kavanaugh section - its around 8-9 minutes from the end.

Statements like this just make me laugh, and shake my head.

A traitor in the white house. No proof.

A possible felon or 2 on the scotus. Who? No proof.

And........I don't even know who an 'evil demon tortoise running the senate" is.



I feel sorry for you, and those like you that have so much hatred in their heart, and lie like crazy. It has to stink.

I don't think there are even 3 Justices on the court who would overturn RVW, but they might allow some restrictions. We'll see.

Kavanaugh saga: What the FBI report really tells us

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kavanaugh-saga-what-the-fbi-report-really-tells-us


The new FBI report on Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh that was being reviewed by senators Thursday makes it clear that there is absolutely no reason to further delay the confirmation vote on his nomination.

America would be well-served if the Senate seats this extraordinarily qualified judge on the nation’s highest court.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, reviewed the FBI’s supplemental background investigation of charges of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh on Thursday morning.

Grassley said: "There’s nothing in it that we didn’t already know. These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations.”

Furthermore, Grassley said that the FBI’s “investigation found no hint of misconduct.”

The new FBI’s report supplements the sixth full-field FBI background investigation of Kavanaugh since 1993.

The claims being made by Democrats that the FBI was somehow limited or curtailed in its investigation because it didn’t have enough time to conduct the probe show a woeful ignorance of the resources of the agency and the extensive manpower it can bring to bear.

While this supplementary investigation looked at specific allegations made against Kavanaugh, the regular FBI background investigations Kavanaugh was subjected to earlier were very extensive, extremely thorough and open-ended. Such investigations often receive wide-ranging input from hundreds of people.

Nevertheless, Kavanaugh’s critics reject any report that doesn’t provide the politically damaging conclusion they seek. And this supplemental report, which gives Kavanaugh a clean bill of health, definitely did not come out as they wanted.

The level of investigation Kavanaugh has undergone is extraordinary. In fact, the Senate has received far more information about Kavanaugh than it has received about all prior Supreme Court nominees combined throughout American history.



And Kavanaugh has received praise not only as an outstanding lawyer, jurist and mentor, but as a warm, decent and kind man involved with his family, his community and his church.

Kavanaugh could have earned many times his government salary as a top lawyer in the private sector. But instead of focusing on enriching his family, he has dedicated the bulk of his career to public service.

As Sen. Grassley said, what we know about Kavanaugh is that his “former clerks, colleagues, and friends from high school to the present acclaim his personal integrity and character.”

Kavanaugh is probably one of the most qualified lawyers to ever be nominated for a position on the Supreme Court. He has more judicial experience than the vast majority of prior nominees to the high court – certainly more than current Justice Elena Kagan, who did not spend a single day as an appellate judge before she was confirmed to the Supreme Court. Yet she was easily and quickly confirmed with Republican support.

We have been subjected to a constant demand for more and more information and more and more investigations dealing with Kavanaugh by Democratic senators who long ago announced they would oppose his appointment to the Supreme Court.

These senators said they would not vote for Kavanaugh even before they had even examined his qualifications and his record. That tells you all you need to know about the current clamor against him.

Democrats have mounted cruel and vicious personal attacks against Kavanaugh, his family and the Republican senators supporting his confirmation. Their goal is to stop a conservative who believes in the rule of law and the Constitution from being seated on the Supreme Court.

The opposition to Kavanaugh has nothing to do with his qualifications to serve on the Supreme Court. It has everything to do with liberal efforts to turn the Supreme Court into another policy-making body like Congress that will implement their far-left public policy views.

Kavanaugh’s opponents are willing to say anything and use any tactics – no matter how unfair and cruel – to prevent his confirmation. And are doing this not because of anything disqualifying in his background or professional qualifications, but simply because of the way they believe he will rule in cases before the Supreme Court

The worst part of all of this is that – in addition to the terrible ordeal and defamation that Kavanaugh and his family have been put through – good people who could serve our nation with great distinction as judges and other government officials will be deterred from public service.

During his Senate confirmation hearing in 1991, when he had to defend himself against allegations of sexual harassment, Supreme Court nominee and current Justice Clarence Thomas called the hearing “a circus” “a national disgrace” and “a high-tech lynching.”

All those words apply to what Senate Democrats and their allies have put Kavanaugh through. It is time to end this charade and proceed to a Senate vote that should end with Kavanaugh’s confirmation as an associate justice of the Supreme Court.

I see where they found the Democrats were pressure people to change their story . How can America survive with scumbags like this in the Govt. I guess there is no bottom to how low the left will go to get their own way. Grow up lefties.