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So if God knows all, and allows free will, he then also knows who will and won’t follow him, correct? So he’s essentially created many of us knowing he was damning us to eternity in hell.
Sounds loving.

My dad is a good Christian by Razor’s definition.
He closed minded. He’s strongly opinionated. And in being this way he’s driven most of the people that love him, his kids, away. But at least he has God and salvation. Or at least that’s what he says when he tells us in so many words that were all going to Hell.

How do you feel about Muslims, not you in particular, but are they wrong and you are right? Not trying to pick a fight, at times people present these as direct conflicting ideologies.

The reason for all of those "stupid rules", was to show man his sin, and his inability to be saved on his own. Man broke rules and laws, and had to sacrifice animals to atone for his sins.

In His perfect time, God sent Jesus to be the eternal and perfect sacrifice for our sins.

Well this thread went from a "Let me ask you a question" to a "Lets bash God, thread"

Bro, that was the intent from the beginning.

Doesn't sound like it to me. Sounds like he is very judgemental and is not acting out of love but stubbornness. If you love your neighbor the way Jesus commands us to you will not seek to drive them away. Rather you will rebuke them when they do wrong and show them even more love than ever before. If you haven't accepted Jesus as lord and savior and if you haven't repented and changed your ways then Yes, you are going to hell. That is what the Bible teaches. It's not going to change just because you don't like it. I mean if the fire is hot should we tell you not to stick your hand in it? Wouldn't it make us even worse parents to just let our kids jump into the fireplace and play and do nothing to stop them from the suffering we know is to come?

At some point it's a waste of time to try to save someone. It comes when there can be no resolution because you know no matter what you say God has not yet called them to be saved. At that point a Christian should just leave the person alone and walk away. You have done your job in informing them of their choices. It's on them to change when God calls them to do so. In the meantime love them and live your own life they way you should.

If a child won't listen to the teachings of his father and chooses instead to ignore and disrespect him then let the child suffer the fruit of his foolishness. As a father all we can do is teach and guide and love. It's up to the children to learn if they are able or suffer on their own if they can't. When a father knows his child is going to harm himself it's the toughest thing in the world to sit there and just let it happen. Don't you think after a long time of being ignored and ridiculed by his children that father will have to harden his heart to bear the pain of knowing he can't save his child no matter how much he tries?

Then again selfish children seldom care what their parents want for them anyways. They just want what they want and to hell with what the old man who is just in the way of their desires of the flesh.

I don't know your father or your problems but I seriously doubt that he is the only one close minded and strongly opinionated in your family. Like father like child.

Well this thread went from a "Let me ask you a question" to a "Lets bash God, thread"

I think people were cool being respectful until the bad Muslim bashing. Then when people saw Christians not being respectful towards other religions, people stopped caring about the Christians and their snowflake sensibilities.

So what was the Muslim bashing?

Maybe you should use some of your free will and read the thread

I did read the thread. Please point out the "Muslim bashing".

I saw a calm discussion of the differences between Islam and Christianity, and I saw what has to be the Christian view of Islam, given the things they teach.

I saw nothing with the vitriol and ridicule that you chose to then respond with.

I saw no one calling Islam, Muslims, or Muhammad names. (though I did see one shortening of his name)

Please show me the ridicule you have shown for Christians. Specifically.

the beauty of a message board:

Razor would never say this to someone's face in real life.

i've gotten into serious debates in person with people of all religions, and i know you wouldn't dare say that to someone's face.

but thats religious people for you. trash people behind their backs, but won't say a word in public.

if being fake is a sign of a good christian, a lot of you guys pretty much nailed it.

Dad is that you?

Geez.
“I love you so much I can’t stop telling you you’re going to burn in hell unless you go to church with me.” “Wait, I’m confused. Why don’t you want to spend time with me anymore ?”

"typical Christian". In your opinion, am I a 'typical Christian"?

I think people were cool being respectful until the bad Muslim bashing. Then when people saw Christians not being respectful towards other religions, people stopped caring about the Christians and their snowflake sensibilities.

are you? if you feel you are, then the answer is yes. if not, why bother asking in the first place. unless you're looking for attention.

again, we all know you would never tell a muslim person that their religion is fake and unreal in person.

you're just another keyboard warrior with no actual balls to tell ANYBODY of a different faith that their religion is wrong.

you won't tell a jew that. you won't tell a hindu that. you won't tell anybody that tough talk to their face.

but its not surprising, because just like a typical christian, you are easily the most judgemental person i have ever interacted with. its people like you as to why i have such a disdain for all religions, especially in this country.

the high and mighty attitude is why the number of christians continue to drop. you and YTown can look in the mirror as to why.

It's my belief that God would want his believers to be kind, persuasive, and able to easily to relate to the people they communicate with on a daily basis. As we can see in the real world, and on this board, a good number of Christians fall far short of this expectation. The most outspoken Christians on this board are the exact opposite of what I described, and pretty much a total turn off to anyone who might be interested in hearing what they believe is the word of God.

Great job, Guys. You are the reason the number of Christians are dwindling, not the devil you so conveniently blame.

Oh. My bad.

Translation: I'll pick and choose what from the Bible I want to hear and believe, if you remind me of the things that contradict what I want I'll label you as judgmental.

Let me know when I'm allowed to have an opinion, or ask a question.

And I rest my case..........

No, you really don't have one. Like the typical liberal, you think you can judge a persons motives, and like the typical female, you can't.

and like the typical female, you can't.