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So are we players in this garnishing a missing piece so that we can further ourselves in possibly a POST SEASON. We rarely are in this position. So what possibly could we do?
For me I hope we are acquiring players not dumping them.
The only guy I see that we would dump, and I am so so hoping we don't is probably Duke. And the Eagles are the best customer for that sale. But as mentioned I want Duke to stay here and I so wish him to become the needed WR that he can take over.
For me, buying. I would give up a first round pick which could be a # 20 or so not a top 10 for Peterson of the Cardinals. The kid is just 28 and in his prime, he probably has a good 5-7 years ahead of him. We would instantly become the best CB duo in the NFL bar NONE! Speed from the two corners. I think no other move would make this team rise up immediately and actually make us a Playoff contender.
As a distant number # on getting this team better. Another team that might look to dump said talent could be the Giants and Mr. Odell Beckham at WR. This would create a duo of Landry and Beckham both of LSU fame and that would create such a tandem for one of the best upcoming QBs in the NFL! I know this would be the sexy pick up...for me the Peterson pick up would be premium.
As mentioned I hope we are players and not Dumpers this time around.
Any thoughts and Ideas as the trade deadline get closer???
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I love the thought of Peterson for a first rounder.
I would try to get him for a 2nd or 3rd but would not be upset with giving up a #1. Because of his salary, it might not take a number 1.
As talented as OBJ is, I don't see Dorsey trying to bring his attitude into the Browns locker room.
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Oakland might be someone looking to trade ... they could be 1-6 at that point and Gruden has shown a propensity to
Maybe the Colts as well
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Trust me I'm not a WR type of guy but the thought is intriguing. I see him very emotional very similar to Landry so the locker room thing would be something that would turn positive I think.
The other thing is when we played the Giants in preseason??? I remember Odell searching Mayfield out and gave the kid a Giant hug (no pun intended...lol ) and they talked to each other like they were best friends. I can see Odell really liking to play for us and WITH MAYFIELD. I think you will see Mayfield is very respected already throughout the NFL and so much so that PLAYERS are willing to flock here and not laugh at us as in the past. We are players now and in the mix!
As stated for me its Peterson like no other player that can change this already good team into a Contender and feared around the league. Peterson and Ward. Both 4.3 guys Where do they go...either side will be shut down! Man o man sacks a plenty!
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Trades of course take two to tango.
The question becomes at what position do we really need help?
The other thing to consider is do we give up draft picks to get that help?
Is there anyone on this roster that we could use as trade bait to upgrade a position.
Avery is making huge strides. I think he could replace Collins.
Is Collins a guy other teams covet?
Who would Dorsey target in trade?
Would Dorsey go after Beckham? I doubt that. Money and a big mouth.
This I know Dorsey will be looking.
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I'd give Arizona a call about the availability of Chandler Jones, if the Cards decide they want to rebuild they may be willing to part with the 28 year old and he would instantly give us one the best pass rushing set of ends in the NFL.
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While the thoughts of both Peterson & Jones is intriguing, I think that if we are players, it will be for guys that are more on the emerging level and not super-established premier-name guys.
Look at the moves Dorsey has made so far. He isn't about the big splash signings. He's about bringing in the quality talent that is going to grow and help establish something here for the long haul. He finds underrated, undervalued talent. Peterson & Jones don't really fit that mold.
I'd look for a guy, honestly, that is comparable to Mitchell, Avery, Ogbah, Coley.... or a guy that can be a solid WR in Haley's O. A Hines Ward & Jarvis Landry type that will come in, work hard, catch what comes near him, and be an enthusiastic blocker.
The one caveat to the above thoughts: if we can find a team looking to do a Brock Osweiler salary dump with a player. We get them to give us a pick to take the player and their salary, and we absorb the massive cap hit. This gets us a player and gives Dorsey more Draft capital.
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I would actually be surprised if we make a trade of any kind barring some major injury in the very near future.
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While I agree that Dorsey would prefer a young up and comer type of player those guys usually aren't available in trades.
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I think Dorsey has shown what he can do with a draft pick - so for me, draft picks are more a premium then they have ever been before!
I personally think the only thing I would like to trade for would be that #1 WR. That to me is our biggest glaring need right now. JMO
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j/c
I'm not hoping to give away huge draft stock for a big name player. But a competent WR with good hands would be welcome in my book.
I agree with the poster who said that draft picks seem to have more value with Dorsey in charge so giving up anything more than a third or fourth round draft pick for a solid WR would be too much IMO
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While I agree that Dorsey would prefer a young up and comer type of player those guys usually aren't available in trades. And, yet, we got Demarious Randall in a trade for DeShaun Kizer and we were able to nab an unwanted WR that averaged 100 catches a year for four straight years. If they're there, Dorsey will find them.
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Teams should be trying to trade for veterans on the Giants, Cardinals, 49ers, and Bills.
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While I agree that Dorsey would prefer a young up and comer type of player those guys usually aren't available in trades. And, yet, we got Demarious Randall in a trade for DeShaun Kizer and we were able to nab an unwanted WR that averaged 100 catches a year for four straight years. If they're there, Dorsey will find them. I agree with you. We had the 29 year old Matthews in for a visit, and passed. (at least for now) We possibly lowballed Dez Bryant. I think that maybe if the right deal came along, like the Tyrod trade, then he'll probably male a move, but it has to be the right player at the right price.
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While I agree that Dorsey would prefer a young up and comer type of player those guys usually aren't available in trades. And, yet, we got Demarious Randall in a trade for DeShaun Kizer and we were able to nab an unwanted WR that averaged 100 catches a year for four straight years. If they're there, Dorsey will find them. I wouldn't call either of them up and comers as Landry was already a top WR and Randall was a decent corner.
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Teams should be trying to trade for veterans on the Giants, Cardinals, 49ers, and Bills. On the Giants teams should be calling about John Greco, Damon Harrison, Connor Barwin, Olivier Vernon, and Janoris Jenkins. Cardinals - Patrick Peterson, Deone Bucannon, Phil Dawson, Jermaine Gresham, Mike Iupati, Chandler Jones. 49ers - Pierre Garcon, Bills - Lorenzo Alexander, LeSean McCoy, Jerry Hughes, Micah Hyde, Star Lotulelei, Jordan Poyer. Basically any quality player on a veteran contract.
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While I agree that Dorsey would prefer a young up and comer type of player those guys usually aren't available in trades. And, yet, we got Demarious Randall in a trade for DeShaun Kizer and we were able to nab an unwanted WR that averaged 100 catches a year for four straight years. If they're there, Dorsey will find them. Randall is exactly who I thought of when I opened this thread. Guys that aren't exactly "scrap heap", but more unwanted or misused guys where our building would be a better situation for their talents.
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I wouldn't call either of them up and comers as Landry was already a top WR and Randall was a decent corner.
I certainly agree with you about the exact term. But in this case I think it's a question of semantics. An up and comer would create a situation where you would have to extrapolate what you believe they will become because they aren't there yet. In this case, the scenario is even better because you already know they can be quite successful at the NFL level. And in reality, since Randall had never played the FS position at the NFL level, it was even more rare than spotting an "up and comer".
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rumors in Buffalo are that Shady McCoy will be dealt for not much
Not that I think we'd be interested or he'd end up here, but he's a name that might move
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rumors in Buffalo are that Shady McCoy will be dealt for not much
Not that I think we'd be interested or he'd end up here, but he's a name that might move Shady going back to Philly. Vers brought up the prospect first, he'll be proven right.
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Odell has some issues that make him an undesirable fit for the Browns, imo.
Come on folks, you don't remember his sideline actions? At times he is not coachable
I doubt that the Browns view him an answer to our needs.
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We are down a WR as of today.. perhaps carolina would be interested in dealing Torrey Smith? Just an idle thought.. he's not getting much playing time.
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another name to think of:
Marvin Jones
Detroit has phased him out and he's got a bigger contract and is a bit older
But he also has some ties with Hue IIRC
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j/c:
Why would Philly want Duke when they have similar backs in Sproles, Smallwood, and even Clement?
I'm fairly certain they would want a bigger back to replace Ajayi if they are in the market for a RB.
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As I posted in another thread I wondered if we should consider trading Duke. I sure hope not. I agree we should add talent not cut ones that could contribute to turning this franchise around.
IMO we should look at DT and WR. Read where Ethan Westrooks of the Rams might be available. Rotational guy who can flat out play.
And i like Devonta Parker of the Fins.
If there is any problems with Parker we have a guy who can set it straight already. He knows the Fins.
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We are down a WR as of today.. perhaps carolina would be interested in dealing Torrey Smith? Just an idle thought.. he's not getting much playing time. Not a bad one either Saint. Would be a guy that can take the lid off. IMO thats the type receiver we need.
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'We are down a WR as of today"
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wow I was looking forward to seeing more of him. That sucks
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Willie's broke a collar bone I think it was.
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They are saying day to day / game to game but I think thats complete BS. Collarbone is a tough break
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I can't see Dorsey sitting on his butt when we need help at WR. If there is a viable option out there, he'll find it. His last add of Streater was not the answer. He was a depth addition IMHO.
I'd be happy to see him bring Jordan Leslie back right now.
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I can't see Dorsey sitting on his butt when we need help at WR. If there is a viable option out there, he'll find it. His last add of Streater was not the answer. He was a depth addition IMHO.
I'd be happy to see him bring Jordan Leslie back right now. Why? I don't remember him showing anything here.
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Though I'm merely making this up and haven't seen anything regarding this..
But Jordan Howard to the Eagles..
Eagles need an impact back right now...Bears can use the extra draft picks
Howard isnt fitting all that well in Nagys system...Bears can sign someone like Charles Sims to split with Cohen.
Patrick Peterson would be a stud...not sure if he still returns anymore, but he was or is good at that as well. Considering it seems the trade market seems more easier nowadays...I think he could be had without a surrendering a 1st round pick.
I would really love to see a weapon added to our WR core to help Baker grow, that's what I want most.
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Also I pray we don't trade for Kelvin Benjamin...he may have the worst hands I've ever seen for a so called #1 wideout.
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Davante Parker might be an interesting name at WR. Phins don't want him anymore
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Davante Parker might be an interesting name at WR. Phins don't want him anymore His mom doesn't want him to come to Cleveland.
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Davante Parker might be an interesting name at WR. Phins don't want him anymore His mom doesn't want him to come to Cleveland. good point
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