DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 14 Chargers 38 Postame Thoughts

Well this game isn't over, but we might as well get started on this absolute turd of a game.

Hue Jackson can't really afford to have games like these. Everyone looked bad. The defense was constantly getting beat on short plays around the edge. No adjustments. Greg Williams looked lost today.

Baker Mayfield was not great. The injury sucks, but he had some horrible throws. This isn't a game that should be concerning or anything. Just a typical not so great game from a rookie QB. He'll bounce back.

He also had a bunch of really nice throws that were dropped by WR's. There's no excuse for that.

Days like today really anger me when it comes to Josh Gordon. He essentially wasted a roster spot when the team could have used it for someone else. Whatever.

The offensive preparation by the Chargers was really good today. They definitely did their homework, and they will have a great day tomorrow looking at tape.

That no-call on the Chargers left tackle clearing jumping early was more proof that the officiating at at this level is just unacceptable. Does the league even care? I don't think they do. We all will tune in next week so they don't get punished for sub-standard officiating.

I think we'll bounce back, but Hue Jackson can't afford games like these. I think John Dorsey probably already has a plan in place in case they want to go in a different direction in the offseason. With a talented roster that could be one of the top jobs on the market, Hue won't be able to put much together to prove his worth with the Browns.

I like the guy, I've been in his corner for basically his entire tenure, but days like today are just another reason to believe we can do better. Especially having veteran coordinators like Haley and Williams.

This is the first time Baker Mayfield looked like a rookie. Some of it had to do with being pressured and having unreliable receivers. As he gets more experience he'll be able to figure those things out more.

The defense was horrendous. We played three linebackers most of the game and the Chargers gameplan was to run the ball down our throats. The end around and jet sweeps killed us. That is straight up good coaching on the Chargers part.

Why are we punting down 29 on the other team's side of the field?

The turnovers we had the first five weeks were great, but turnovers are highly random (especially fumble recoveries). If we don't get turnovers, the defense is sunk.

Duke Johnson looked got when he got the ball.

I don't think Njoku had any drops.

The refs missing that false start was atrocious.

The special teams looked better than previous weeks. Peppers had some great returns. I think we still had, at least, two penalties on special teams.

Running on second and long seems to be or M.O. We get three yards and then have third and seven.

The kicker wasn't bad.

There is more. . .

The Browns gave up on the run entirely too soon; they should scrap running out of the shotgun.

That would be dumb considering our QB, and basically every QB, is better out of the shotgun.

So you're okay with running out of the shotgun when it's 3rd and 2?

Absolutely. Literally every team does this. It's 2018, not 1973.

Eliminate all first down markers to protect the qbs. /p

Sashi Brown dug us a huge hole, it will take more than one season to dig out of it. Games like this will happen. The important thing will be to see how they bounce back.

awful

I think they will, but I also think we're not done seeing games like these.

Running 7+ yards to get 2; doesn't make sense. Era doesn't matter, it's about percentages and efficiency, isn't it?

You want to run into an 8 man box on 3rd and 2?

No. We have the talent to win. Going into this game we had a chance to be 5-0 if things bounced a different direction. This team is good enough to win games. The team fell flat on their face.

Show me the percentages and efficiency.

95% of the time a defense sees you bring in a few TE's and a FB, they're going to put more men in the box than you can possibly block. Shotgun usually prevents stacked boxes on obvious running plays

What's better odds? Getting 6 feet (2 yards) or completing a pass with the current receivers? If your offensive line can't get you two yards, that's a problem isn't it?

postgame thoughts:

we're back to the cellar of the AFC north.

Your belief that running out of the shotgun is inefficient is wrong. Teams run out of the shotgun successfully all the time. If you are worried about the offensive line and its blocking, do you want them blocking more guys or less guys?

Bad game by the freaking entire team.
Baker is a rook and played like it but help by our freakin WR absolutely help him none.
Why do we not run the ball?
Our worst game from the players to game plan to everyone involved.
Horrible but we gonna have them games and we will learn from it.

Bad game by the freaking entire team.
Baker is a rook and played like it but help by our freakin WR absolutely help him none.
Why do we not run the ball?
Our worst game from the players to game plan to everyone involved.
Horrible but we gonna have them games and we will learn from it.

Team and coaching staff were inanimate stiffs. I expect the staff to keep morale up and fight in the guys...they failed as an organization today.

Depends on why they can't get two yards. Is it because they can't generate a push or is it because a defender went unblocked?

https://predictivefootball.com/running-from-shotgun-formation-works-even-in-short-yardage/

Post game thought.

In a league of offense, The Browns consistently try to pass off lousily held roster spots in the offensive skilled positions as acceptable.

And when they get talent for all the spots, they cut some of the players and try to sell us on being ok with that.

injuries ain't helped either, but the team didn't plan for "any" injuries?

Unfortunate day to watch lousy football.
Wide Receivers Matter.

don't tell Tab that.

j/c

A really rough game. I had a feeling a day or two ago when we knew we would be having to use backup receivers this would probably happen.

What about the defense?

Man, they ran all over them. I even took a nap during the second half because it was so bad. I recorded the game and caught up. Disaster game, better watched pre-recorded!

A team loss

We only have 1 legitimate WR and a over-hyped D.


No QB can win in that situation.

time to drink a beer

Go figure - on a day our kicker is perfect, the rest of the team doesn't show up...

How many drops did we have today?

The players horribly performed a lazy game plan. A failure on every level by everyone.

They need to learn that they can't give up just because they're not getting good calls from the ref.

Is this holding people accountable or throwing teammates under the bus? There is a fine line. I don't know which one it is.

Thay need called out by someone. To many drops and lousy routes.

How and in what context was it said? Baker doesn't strike me as a guy to thrown anyone under the bus even if they deserve it.

Bad day - bad game - bad refs.

My single biggest beef is the play calling and Haley ... I know Baker has played above expectations, but how about building a game plan that helps him? People raved about Wentz and Dak ... they were given a game plan to try to make it EASY for them and that concentrated on helping them .... I don't see any of that with Haley.

Thoughts:

We just gave the league the formula for beating us. run the ball outside, play tight man on D, and we'll lay down and play dead like the rally possum.

We were manhandled. It was embarrassing.

I couldn't watch the fourth quarter. I'll look at it later, though I don't know why.

We're so thin any injury decimates the group.

Hue has no business giving victory Mondays to this team. It's stupid. They need all the practice they can get. Pats don't do it and they're multi-champions. I hate it.

They look like a team that could easily go 2-13-1. Will not shock me if they do.

They took advantage of Baker's height disadvantage by blocking his throwing lanes.

Landry hasn't done squat to help this team so far. It's sad and disheartening.

Everything I wanted to happen didn't, and everything I didn't want to happen did.

To add insult to injury, I played the Browns D in fantasy, and was playing against Melvin Gordon.

The play calling is fine. There are plenty of easy reads (screens, RPOs, etc.). Mayfield just had a bad game. He's a rookie, it's going to happen.