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Stormy Daniels defamation suit against Trump tossed on 1st Amendment grounds

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stormy-...endment-grounds

A federal judge in Los Angeles on Monday threw out adult-film actress Stormy Daniel’s defamation lawsuit against President Trump on free-speech grounds.

“The court agrees with Mr. Trump’s argument because the tweet in question constitutes ‘rhetorical hyperbole’ normally associated with politics and public discourse in the U.S.,” U.S. District Judge S. James Otero in Los Angeles said in a ruling Monday, as Bloomberg reported. “The First Amendment protects this type of rhetorical statement.”

As Fox News previously reported, Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, sued the president in April over a tweet in which he denied her claims of being threatened by a man in a Las Vegas parking lot in 2011.

Daniels said the man was threatening her for going public about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006. Trump has denied the affair took place, and cast doubt on her story of being threatened.



“A sketch years later about a nonexistent man. A total con job, playing the Fake News Media for Fools (but they know it)!” Trump tweeted. He retweeted a side-by-side image comparing the sketch with a photo of Daniels’ husband.

Trump’s camp labeled the Monday ruling as a major win.

“The ruling also states that the President is entitled to an award of his attorneys’ fees against Stormy Daniels,” Trump attorney Charles Harder said in a statement to Fox News. “No amount of spin or commentary by Stormy Daniels or her lawyer, Mr. (Michael) Avenatti, can truthfully characterize today’s ruling in any way other than total victory for President Trump and total defeat for Stormy Daniels. The amount of the award for President Trump’s attorneys’ fees will be determined at a later date.”

Avenatti, who previously said the tweet damaged Daniels’ credibility by portraying her as a liar, responded to the ruling via Twitter: “…Judge’s limited ruling: Daniels’ other claims against Trump and Cohen proceed unaffected. Trump’s contrary claims are as deceptive as his claims about the inauguration attendance. We will appeal the dismissal of the defamation cause of action and are confident in a reversal.”

Avenatti frequently has criticized Trump in the mainstream media and has said he’s considering challenging him in the 2020 presidential race.

“There is something really rich in Trump relying on the First Amendment to justify defaming a woman,” Avenatti added about the decision.

Daniels’ lawsuit over a hush-money deal is pending. Avenatti has said he wants to keep the case alive.

Trump and his former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, want the court to toss out the litigation as moot.

Daniels originally sued Trump and Cohen, who negotiated the deal, so she could speak publicly about the reported tryst without fear of reprisal. Cohen had threatened to sue her for $20 million.

Lawyers for Trump and Cohen now say the deal that paid Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet was invalid and they won’t sue her for breaking it.

Daniels has said she had sex once with Trump in 2006, and carried on a friendship with him for about a year.

Daniels had said the agreement should be invalidated because Cohen signed it, but Trump didn’t.

Cohen pleaded guilty last August to campaign finance violations for arranging payments both to Daniels and to a former Playboy model to influence the election.

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“There is something really rich in Trump relying on the First Amendment to justify defaming a woman,” Avenatti added about the decision.


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“There is something really rich in Trump relying on the First Amendment to justify defaming a woman,” Avenatti added about the decision.


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Seems it makes sense, you can legally spout any kind of slanderous nonsense about public officials and celebrities. So seems they should be able to tell you to f off.


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Seems it makes sense, you can legally spout any kind of slanderous nonsense about public officials and celebrities. So seems they should be able to tell you to f off.


Sure, although maybe Donald Trump should have just remained faithful to his then pregnant or just had a baby wife instead of fooling around .................


It was Donald Trump who clearly lied after-all and said that the relationship between him and Stormy never existed

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Seems it makes sense, you can legally spout any kind of slanderous nonsense about public officials and celebrities. So seems they should be able to tell you to f off.


Sure, although maybe Donald Trump should have just remained faithful to his then pregnant or just had a baby wife instead of fooling around .................


It was Donald Trump who clearly lied after-all and said that the relationship between him and Stormy never existed


I'm not endorsing any of Trumps crap.
I'm just giving my opinion, from a legal point of view.

If I had an opinion, I'd say why her. As far as porn stars go, she is not hot. Her giant fake boobs are grotesque.

With all his money he could get some hot 20 something with a natural body.


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Holy Editorializing Batman!

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Holy Editorializing Batman!


Isn’t that Trump's illegitimate son he fathered in the 70’s?


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The Truth continues to come out and the Lies continue to be swept away. Just like Collusion and the Justice/FBI attempted Coup...

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The Truth continues to come out and the Lies continue to be swept away. Just like Collusion and the Justice/FBI attempted Coup...

Drip Drip Drip

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I like that the president is throwing a temper tantrum on Twitter in which he calls his prostitute "Horseface" because he's still bitter that she got to talk about it after he forgot to sign their NDA, and 40's reaction is "yes, this is a good thing for my guy".

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All will be just fine when she pays Trumps attorney fees as ordered by the Judge. rofl

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All will be just fine when she pays Trumps attorney fees as ordered by the Judge. rofl


Is that the attorney doing time upstate because of her?


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All will be just fine when she pays Trumps attorney fees as ordered by the Judge. rofl


Again, I love that a septuagenarian imbecile is throwing a temper tantrum on Twitter where he calls his prostitute "Horseface" - a prostitute that is known to the public solely because said imbecile was too senile to sign his own NDA, and 40's reaction is "this is awesome".

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Donald Trump calls Stormy Daniels 'Horseface' after she loses defamation case

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-loses-defamation-case-071139425.html

i wonder what the trump cult followers would've said if obama said anything close to this.


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Donald Trump calls Stormy Daniels 'Horseface' after she loses defamation case

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-loses-defamation-case-071139425.html

i wonder what the trump cult followers would've said if obama said anything close to this.


I'm still laughing at calling a woman you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for sex with ugly.

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Donald Trump calls Stormy Daniels 'Horseface' after she loses defamation case

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-loses-defamation-case-071139425.html

i wonder what the trump cult followers would've said if obama said anything close to this.


I'm still laughing at calling a woman you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for sex with ugly.


He also told her that she reminded him of his daughter... just saying.

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Given that the president is a perpetually frightened and angry man-child who constantly needs to verbally assert his masculinity, I find Daniels' claim that he has a small penis to be dubious.

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.

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And that tells you a lot about who he decides to sleep with. And while his wife is carrying his child in her womb no less. And then there's the playboy bunny too......


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And that tells you a lot about who he decides to sleep with. And while his wife is carrying his child in her womb no less. And then there's the playboy bunny too......



Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You're really fixated on his penis... tsktsk

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Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


I don't think "are you jealous of the angry elderly man who spends all day crying about people being mean to him? His wife and kid are fine with his prostitute" is quite the comeback zinger you intended it to be.

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You're really fixated on his penis... tsktsk


We can remove that from the equation, and you thinking that it's a point of strength to argue that a whiny elderly man-baby being better off than his prostitute is still hilarious.

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Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


I don't think "are you jealous of the angry elderly man who spends all day crying about people being mean to him? His wife and kid are fine with his prostitute" is quite the comeback zinger you intended it to be.


You're grasping at straws....Trump won AGAIN! thumbsup

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You're really fixated on his penis... tsktsk


We can remove that from the equation, and you thinking that it's a point of strength to argue that a whiny elderly man-baby being better off than his prostitute is still hilarious.


Why do you want to remove his penis?

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Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


I don't think "are you jealous of the angry elderly man who spends all day crying about people being mean to him? His wife and kid are fine with his prostitute" is quite the comeback zinger you intended it to be.


You're grasping at straws....Trump won AGAIN! thumbsup


You are the one asking Pit if he's jealous of a senile dullard who spends all day on Twitter whining about people being mean to him, citing as evidence that his trophy wife and son don't seem bothered by his prostitute.

Don't think I'm the one grasping at straws here.

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I don't use the purple font, so if I have to spell it out -

Given that Trump is a raw-nerve weakling who alternates between cowering fear and impotent rage, Stormy Daniels' claims that he has a small penis shouldn't be met with much skepticism.


Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You're really fixated on his penis... tsktsk


We can remove that from the equation, and you thinking that it's a point of strength to argue that a whiny elderly man-baby being better off than his prostitute is still hilarious.


Why do you want to remove his penis?


Jesus, dude, have some self-respect.

This is more embarrassing than "how did David Hogg know how to use the internet?"

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Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


I don't think "are you jealous of the angry elderly man who spends all day crying about people being mean to him? His wife and kid are fine with his prostitute" is quite the comeback zinger you intended it to be.


You're grasping at straws....Trump won AGAIN! thumbsup


You are the one asking Pit if he's jealous of a senile dullard who spends all day on Twitter whining about people being mean to him, citing as evidence that his trophy wife and son don't seem bothered by his prostitute.

Don't think I'm the one grasping at straws here.


Like what you do on here about Trump?

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Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


I don't think "are you jealous of the angry elderly man who spends all day crying about people being mean to him? His wife and kid are fine with his prostitute" is quite the comeback zinger you intended it to be.


You're grasping at straws....Trump won AGAIN! thumbsup


You are the one asking Pit if he's jealous of a senile dullard who spends all day on Twitter whining about people being mean to him, citing as evidence that his trophy wife and son don't seem bothered by his prostitute.

Don't think I'm the one grasping at straws here.


Like what you do on here about Trump?


You ever notice they get especially fussy and knee-jerk when you point out that the guy they think is a pillar of strength is a dumb old guy who cries all day?

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Yet he is the President of the United States and a Billionaire and she strips for change in side alley dives.


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You're really fixated on his penis... tsktsk


We can remove that from the equation, and you thinking that it's a point of strength to argue that a whiny elderly man-baby being better off than his prostitute is still hilarious.


Why do you want to remove his penis?


Jesus, dude, have some self-respect.

This is more embarrassing than "how did David Hogg know how to use the internet?"


What does David Hogg have to do with Stormy Daniels?

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And that tells you a lot about who he decides to sleep with. And while his wife is carrying his child in her womb no less. And then there's the playboy bunny too......



Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


Yet those that are members of his party "claim" to stand for Christian and family values. It shows what a bunch of liars they are.


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You are the one asking Pit if he's jealous of a senile dullard who spends all day on Twitter whining about people being mean to him, citing as evidence that his trophy wife and son don't seem bothered by his prostitute.

Don't think I'm the one grasping at straws here.


Like what you do on here about Trump?


You ever notice they get especially fussy and knee-jerk when you point out that the guy they think is a pillar of strength is a dumb old guy who cries all day?


I don't think anyone thinks you're the pillar of strength.

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What does David Hogg have to do with Stormy Daniels?


I'm mocking you for the time you thought that George Soros gave David Hogg the e-mails of Arby's executives because you read it on the "Black Crime" website.

And I brought it up because your responses here rival that it terms of embarrassment.

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And that tells you a lot about who he decides to sleep with. And while his wife is carrying his child in her womb no less. And then there's the playboy bunny too......



Are you jealous? It doesn't seem bother his wife or child.


Yet those that are members of his party "claim" to stand for Christian and family values. It shows what a bunch of liars they are.


There is liars on all sides.

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He's literally been reduced to "I know you are, but what am I?"

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He's definitely not a billionaire,


I agree there is some discrepancy between his own valuation of his wealth, and others valuation. But, your quote?

https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/#28706b8b47bd

That's from Forbes.

This next link is from Time, and it uses Forbes numbers:
http://time.com/money/5188095/donald-trump-net-worth-2018/

But, that's 2 respected media outlets right there that disagree with your statement.

Now, if you want to argue whether he's a self made billionaire, go ahead. I might agree with that.

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