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Most American indigenous tribes have tried to keep their members away from DNA testing and rightfully so

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I hear they also stay away from Horse Faced folks.

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As one with Native blood in me, my great great grandmother on my fathers side was a Blackhawk woman, I am the last in line to claim native heritage....1/16. I could, my cousin has been inducted in to the Tibe. After us, it doesn't count.

Warren is way past that. She can't claim to be native


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As one with Native blood in me, my great great grandmother on my fathers side was a Blackhawk woman, I am the last in line to claim native heritage....1/16. I could, my cousin has been inducted in to the Tibe. After us, it doesn't count.

Warren is way past that. She can't claim to be native


Especially when 'science' tells us even so called native americans came from some where else.

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I don't know where everybody came from and how they got here. I do know my GG grandmother was a Blackhawk...a tribe early on in Illinois and Iowa, then moved north and west. My dads family settled in Bryan, Ohio.


How she got to Bryan I don't know. Oy GG grand dad probably latched on out in the plains and brought her back home.


I do know there was a period of time nobody talked about it. I also have more Native blood in me. Several generations before I have a guy named Archangel Beauchaump who took a squaw as his bride. He was a French/Indian trapper who needed company. This goes back to the 1720's


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Hmm, so Trump shot of his mouth and challenged her to get a DNA test to prove she has indian DNA. After taking a continuous assault from the babified fake news peddling right, she finally relents and does the test.

An expert proclaims she does in FACT have native american heritage in a video she shares to provide proof and call the big baby in the white house out on his BS. So he moves the goal post and say she's not indian ENOUGH! Obama wasn't Black enough or white enough!

When arguing with petulant children we must remember they have no grasp on logic or reason, they only understand tantrums and name calling. Trump has reduced the right to this. They are being led by a baby.

I don't care if she's only a millionth indian, she proved she has indian DNA. Many Mexicans are part of the indian line too for those who need to buy a clue.

Indian tribes often adopted others into the tribe. A mixed race indian, an adopted indian, a south american indian, a great plains indian... prior to the late 1800s or early 1900s would still have been considered an indian, pure indian.

Plantation owners often had black children. They were not considered white then or now because of their black blood. How many generations of caucasian breeding would it take to eliminate a black ancestor? I'll wait for the right to answer that one... waiting.

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Elizabeth Warren helps Republicans with her focus on her DNA instead of the midterms


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/elizabet...of-the-midterms

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Vambo responds with another Fox News hit piece as if it's not just more of the babified smear campaign... answer the question Vambo, or sthu.

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Vambo responds with another Fox News hit piece as if it's not just more of the babified smear campaign... answer the question Vambo, or sthu.
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Vambo responds with another Fox News hit piece as if it's not just more of the babified smear campaign... answer the question Vambo, or sthu.


Says the king of msnbc vid's?

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Vambo responds with another Fox News hit piece as if it's not just more of the babified smear campaign... answer the question Vambo, or sthu.
rofl


#winning


And there is the great babified response of the right. Brain dead cowardlings being herded by their petulant man-child babified tantrum throwing leader... #winning, how stupid is that? It was stupid when it was Charlie Sheen's drug induced crazy rant, it's crazy to think that anything that Trump is doing could be considered winning too... sad what the hooples will latch onto on the right. Their next leader will be worse I'm sure, because we've watched the political devolution for decades now... Reagan is probably the closest thing to a real leader they've put up in my lifetime and his administration and ideas started on this whole selling out the middle class path. smh

Somehow I'm not surprised that I now have to argue the amount of a specific DNA that justifies having that type of DNA. The po;litical dialogue from the right is more or less infantile babble.

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Vambo responds with another Fox News hit piece as if it's not just more of the babified smear campaign... answer the question Vambo, or sthu.
rofl


#winning


And there is the great babified response of the right. Brain dead cowardlings being herded by their petulant man-child babified tantrum throwing leader... #winning, how stupid is that? It was stupid when it was Charlie Sheen's drug induced crazy rant, it's crazy to think that anything that Trump is doing could be considered winning too... sad what the hooples will latch onto on the right. Their next leader will be worse I'm sure, because we've watched the political devolution for decades now... Reagan is probably the closest thing to a real leader they've put up in my lifetime and his administration and ideas started on this whole selling out the middle class path. smh

Somehow I'm not surprised that I now have to argue the amount of a specific DNA that justifies having that type of DNA. The po;litical dialogue from the right is more or less infantile babble.


You need a new spiel. rolleyes

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You need a new spiel. rolleyes


Too much truth for you? Want it babified? How about this:

When somebody posts facts and reality that your brain can't accept, you revert to a child-like form of "nana nana nah nah, you can't get me!", by posting irrelevant propaganda and childish right wing memes. I'd like to take you seriously once in a while, but you make it impossible.

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You need a new spiel. rolleyes


Too much truth for you? Want it babified? How about this:

When somebody posts facts and reality that your brain can't accept, you revert to a child-like form of "nana nana nah nah, you can't get me!", by posting irrelevant propaganda and childish right wing memes. I'd like to take you seriously once in a while, but you make it impossible.


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Hmm, so Trump shot of his mouth and challenged her to get a DNA test to prove she has indian DNA. After taking a continuous assault from the babified fake news peddling right, she finally relents and does the test.

An expert proclaims she does in FACT have native american heritage in a video she shares to provide proof and call the big baby in the white house out on his BS. So he moves the goal post and say she's not indian ENOUGH!




Apparently, she's 'Native American' enough, according to History.
I mean, think about it: ... a rich, powerful white man (from the scammed island of Manhattan) promised something to her... and then went back on his word.

American History 101.
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The goal post I've been aiming at all along is how Trump always uses put downs against anyone who opposes. Uses name calling and cheap shots like some badge of honor. Then when someone stands up for themselves, suddenly they're the angry mob.

And anyone and everyone who supports him helps attack the one he attacked to begin with while never calling him out for his nasty behavior.


This in spades.

And suddenly in 2018 it doesn't even bother the GOP'ers that the POTUS - the leader of the free world - is calling women "horse face" on twitter. Doesn't bother them that he openly disparages and chastises his AG or the intelligence services (while defending Manafort as a great guy - someone who, if nothing else, has ripped off the US by not paying $millions of tax dollars) .... Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores who he cheated on his wife with after their children were born.

Warren was in a no win situation. Whoever said this will all be blown over in 2 years ... dead wrong. Trump will come back to this any and every time Warren is in the spotlight, and he needs to deflect from his own appalling track record and results.

I don't blame her for what she has been forced into. But she needed to come out and say "While I grew up believing I had Native Indian heritage - and the DNA result supports this - it is much more diluted and more generations further back than my family stories led me to believe. "

But it won't matter - Trump will use this to deride and mock and deflect.


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0.09% is 'native american blood?' Really? rofl

I suppose soon we'll here she's African also?


The Obama’s had a good percentage of North American Caucasian blood, and are still treated like they are 100% black by ya’all in here.


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Wah. Whining. crying and stalking have become your trademark.
Such an educated well thought out response.

She has less Native blood in her than my French Mastiff.

The Cherokee nations denounced her and her DNA test. There is no record of her family being a part of the Cherokee Nation, or any other recognized tribe.

But she's native and deserves the benefits she received from listing herself as such, cool story bro.

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Wah. Whining. crying and stalking have become your trademark.
Such an educated well thought out response.

She has less Native blood in here than my French Mastiff.

The Cherokee nations denounced her and her DNA test. There is no record of her family being a part of the Cherokee Nation, or any other recognized tribe.

But she's native and deserves the benefits she received from listing herself as such, cool story bro.



Question: if it turns out I'M 1/1024th African American, I can tout my black heritage right?


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So he moves the goal post and say she's not indian ENOUGH! Obama wasn't Black enough or white enough!
Actually, the Native American Nation said she wasn't Native Indian enough - big difference you left out.

Oh, and calling them "Indians" is not the correctly accepted term these days. Just saying.

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Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores
Pretty despicable comment from you. You condemn trump for calling a women horse face, yet you then call the same women whores. Hypocrisy at its finest everyone!

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Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores
Pretty despicable comment from you. You condemn trump for calling a women horse face, yet you then call the same women whores. Hypocrisy at its finest everyone!


Considering we're talking about the Cherokee Nation, I find the comment of "trail of whores" to be a veiled reference to the Trail of Tears. Insensitive at best.



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Question: if it turns out I'M 1/1024th African American, I can tout my black heritage right?


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You also get to add Kwanzaa to your holiday calendar.


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There is no record of her family being a part of the Cherokee Nation,


There’s no record of her family not being part of the Cherokee or Delaware tribes. She claimed hearing family lore that reflected both tribes. So yeah who knows for sure which tribes for sure. Certainly you don’t.


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Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores
Pretty despicable comment from you. You condemn trump for calling a women horse face, yet you then call the same women whores. Hypocrisy at its finest everyone!


Stormy has to pay him. saywhat

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There is no record of her family being a part of the Cherokee Nation,


There’s no record of her family not being part of the Cherokee or Delaware tribes. She claimed hearing family lore that reflected both tribes. So yeah who knows for sure which tribes for sure. Certainly you don’t.



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Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores
Pretty despicable comment from you. You condemn trump for calling a women horse face, yet you then call the same women whores. Hypocrisy at its finest everyone!


Did I offend your sensibilities.

What do you call a woman who is paid something of value to have sex with her? It's not hypocrisy - it is what it is. You can deny Trump is paying them - but that's your issue. Don't get confused by trying to be a cute victim and fake outrage.


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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whore

Definition of whore (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : PROSTITUTE
also, informal + offensive : a promiscuous or immoral woman
2 : a male who engages in sexual acts for money
3 : a venal or unscrupulous person


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Tell me which definition of doesn't apply to a woman that Trump slept with? Either paying them for sex - or paying them to keep quiet ... and if the woman knows Trump is married (be impossible not to) which part of immoral or unscrupulous doesn't apply.

Pfft.


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Tell me which definition of doesn't apply to a woman that Trump slept with? Either paying them for sex - or paying them to keep quiet ... and if the woman knows Trump is married (be impossible not to) which part of immoral or unscrupulous doesn't apply.

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Tell me which definition of doesn't apply to a woman that Trump slept with? Either paying them for sex - or paying them to keep quiet ... and if the woman knows Trump is married (be impossible not to) which part of immoral or unscrupulous doesn't apply.

Pfft.




All of those men are rapists, perverts, or engaged in inappropriate behavior.

Don’t you think it’s weird and creepy that when faced with the fact that Trump is undeniably a sexual predator, your reaction - instead of denouncing him - is to post weird Grandpa memes about Democrats who have done similarly?

It wasn’t long ago you posted a laughably doctored image of Obama putting the Medal of Honor on a bunch of sexual predators that you took from the “Black Crime” website after you were faced with the fact that Trump once bragged to Howard Stern that he liked to barge in on underage girls changing clothes so he could see them naked.

Like...that doesn’t give you pause or make you feel creepy or enabling?

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No


I rest my case.

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No


I rest my case.



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No


I rest my case.



Who cares?


I really don’t think anyone cares about the bizarre and creepy ramblings of the “Black Crime” website guy, at the end of the day.

But you’re an easy target to mock.

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Doesn't bother them that he has a trail of paid off whores
Pretty despicable comment from you. You condemn trump for calling a women horse face, yet you then call the same women whores. Hypocrisy at its finest everyone!


Did I offend your sensibilities.

What do you call a woman who is paid something of value to have sex with her? It's not hypocrisy - it is what it is. You can deny Trump is paying them - but that's your issue. Don't get confused by trying to be a cute victim and fake outrage.
Not fake outrage at all. The only think fake is your respect for women. You could have easily of said prostitute no? But you chose to use the most demeaning word in the dictionary for that person. You attacked a women simply because of her profession, in a vile and disgusting way. Shame on you.

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Tell me which definition of doesn't apply to a woman that Trump slept with? Either paying them for sex - or paying them to keep quiet ... and if the woman knows Trump is married (be impossible not to) which part of immoral or unscrupulous doesn't apply.

Pfft.
Already responded to your disgusting comment. But there multiple names for multiple things, you chose to use the derogatory term in a way to demean that said person. Which is disgusting and shameful.

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Tell me which definition of doesn't apply to a woman that Trump slept with? Either paying them for sex - or paying them to keep quiet ... and if the woman knows Trump is married (be impossible not to) which part of immoral or unscrupulous doesn't apply.

Pfft.
Already responded to your disgusting comment. But there multiple names for multiple things, you chose to use the derogatory term in a way to demean that said person. Which is disgusting and shameful.



Trump called his prostitute “Horseface” yesterday.

Kind of hard to do the “this is shameful and disgusting!” thing when your sole presence in political threads is to defend a bigoted senile sexual predator and all-around creep.

(That said, I agree with you that it’s demeaning to call her a “whore”. Sex work is a legitimate profession - it just falls flat when coming from a guy who constantly declares his support for a dumb pervert).

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No


I rest my case.



Who cares?


I really don’t think anyone cares about the bizarre and creepy ramblings of the “Black Crime” website guy, at the end of the day.

But you’re an easy target to mock.


This coming from a guy who is fascinated with Trumps penis...

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Given that the president is a perpetually frightened and angry man-child who constantly needs to verbally assert his masculinity, I find Daniels' claim that he has a small penis to be dubious.


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He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You posted in the Stormy thread, talk about "bizarre and creepy ramblings ". tsktsk

But you’re an easy target to mock. thumbsup

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No


I rest my case.



Who cares?


I really don’t think anyone cares about the bizarre and creepy ramblings of the “Black Crime” website guy, at the end of the day.

But you’re an easy target to mock.


This coming from a guy who is fascinated with Trumps penis...

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Given that the president is a perpetually frightened and angry man-child who constantly needs to verbally assert his masculinity, I find Daniels' claim that he has a small penis to be dubious.


Originally Posted By: PDF


He's definitely not a billionaire, but it's infinitely amusing that your argument is so limp that it's reduced to "he may be a spineless crybaby with a small penis, but he's the president, and doing better than his prostitute".


You posted in the Stormy thread, talk about "bizarre and creepy ramblings ". tsktsk

But you’re an easy target to mock. thumbsup


What part of Clem and I riffing on Daniels’ claim that Trump’s penis resembles Toad from Mario Bros. is bizarre or creepy, and what part invites mockery, exactly?

I get that you’re woefully inept at this, but Jesus, dude, if you’re going to take the time to highlight in multiple colors, at least have a coherent point.

Here’s a hint, Vambo - when a perpetually frightened geriatric feels the need to constantly reassure the American public multiple times that his penis isn’t small, it’s not the people who mock him for it that are bizarre or creepy.

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