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Good news is there's plenty of other bad team in the east

The problem is that we just lost badly to two of them.

Is there a coach out there named Due? We could fire Francona and finish off our trifecta of Hue, Due and Lue.

I can't speak for others but it was always obvious that LeBron carried the team. Love is a good player too but obviously can't be the best player on a team. This isn't the dominant Minnesota version of Kevin Love, and even then, he never even made the playoffs there.

I always harped on the team's direction as I thought there were far too many short-sighted decisions that backfired on the team. I harped on Lue because players didn't develop under him and some actually regressed. What's his record without LeBron? (this year and when LeBron sat the last couple years)

I actually took it as a forgone conclusion that when LeBron left, we'd just kick off the rebuild, but ownership obviously saw things differently. That's ok though, we're rebuilding without even trying to rebuild.

yeah i've always maintained firing blatt for Lue was a mistake..the championship was lebron/kyrie/love..Lue didn't deserve to be handed a championship team. He's not good. His rotations suck, he takes too long to make adjustments if any, he doesn't have a clue on defense. Like last night...playing athletic lineup and only switching 1-3, what's the point of putting an athletic 4/5 out there if you aren't going to switch 1-5.. but I digress. I think what needs to happen is guys like Love, TT, Korver, and JR all need to go. Get a coach that knows how to develop a young team. Start accumulating assets and build through the draft. Follow philly/boston blueprint. Its more sustainable than whatever lebrons teams do. I really would like to see Blatt come back.. he's a great coach and knows how to teach. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Drew take over either. I also don't think Altman is the guy. Maybe he learned from the Kyrie thing, but I really blame him for being where we are. He's young and I'm willing to see what he can do. But I've seen enough of Lue to know he's not going to be the guy that turns this around

Who's a worse coach, Hue or Lue ... discuss.

Lue obviously. He forgot he had a timeout.

Lue is really bad..he was gifted a lebron team.. We basically have a team of role guys. Without that superstar piece the games will look like this..but man TT is complete garbage..we have to jettison some of these contracts to rebuild...I think it will take trading love to do it

I have tried to watch a few games, but gave up. Just lousy to watch. I can see how LBJ was like a lone man out there. I have not seen improvement, and could make no sense of what Loo was busy with as far as lineups. It just wasn't close at all. Drop some, trade some. Is Loo the map to the future? Because I didn't see much hope or promise out there. And I did so want to.

I asked before, but who wins more games:

The Browns (x 5)
The Cavs

This is an excellent question, and worth asking just to get a rise out of Vers.

Worse coach - Hue Jackson, not a particularly hard decision in my eyes.

I think lead has some good points about Lue's ability to teach, rotations, and strategic game sense. I agree that he was gifted a championship team (and schemes), but here's the thing, he actually won a championship. You can't take that away from the guy.

I'm going to try to steer this in the Cavs direction, being a Cavs thread and all. I've actually been more focused on the NFL season lately and haven't watched much NBA (only a little bit of the Cavs games.)

A lot of times I'm a wait and see kind of guy.. let's see what Lue can do with a not-championship-caliber team. We probably all see where this is heading, but in fairness, it has only been five games.

I have to admit, this gif is hilarious. Hey, we can disagree about Hue but your timing with this is perfect. I must have spent 5 minutes laughing at it, just thinking of your reaction to seeing this in the Cavs thread.

Hue would've won 3 championships for the Cavs. Not only is Lue a bad coach, he's also a bad player manager. Hue might be a bad coach, but everyone raves about his interpersonal skills. What has Lue done? Chase away our star of the franchise. Allows JR to throw soup? Lue is a chump. Easily the worst coach in Cleveland.

Looks like he's saying "Hue".

Yeah, I tend to agree with CHS. Lue might have the Championship, but he was basically gifted a top 2 player of all time, and two more All Stars. His teams seemed to get progressively worse every year afterward, and he can't seem to develop anyone into a better player. Other than being player-friendly enough for Lebron to pick him over Blatt, I can't really think of anything he's done well for the Cavs. He was supposed to be a good player manager, but there always seemed to be locker room issues. Everything else he's been below average or worse at.

Hue is almost the opposite end of the scale. Historically, he has the worse resume, but he's always had to deal with really bad rosters. He has his flaws, but his players do seem to fight hard for him. Some of them have actually shown improvement too.

He did win one so yeah he gets that for sure. But he did it mostly with Blatts schemes. Blatt took a team missing it’s two best players and delly as starting pg to 6 games in the finals. Then had the best record in the east after 40 games and was fired. That imo was some of the most underhanded crap lebron was famous for. Blatt would have been perfect for the post lebron cavs. I think Lue probably gets to asb maybe even this season. But if they are serious about rebuilding I don’t think he’s the guy

Ettore Mussina is the guy I'd like. He similar to Blatt in that he's got vast Euro experience, but he also has a few years coaching under Pops as well. I wouldn't mind him or Blatt again to be honest.

Yeah I know that name as well, good find. I forgot about him. Messina kinda looks like Blatt too if I remember

j/c:

Friday’s Hot Clicks: Tickets to See the LeBron-Less Cavs Sold for $2

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/10...-tickets-prices

I'd be happy to go see them for 2 bucks lol.

When you trying out the barbershop at the Hawks game?

I want some courtside seats. (bucketlist) Might be a good time to go.

tonight just made it 0-6.

we are in the dark ages again.

At least we got to see the light.

have not watched a second of this season , and don't plan to.

this is not an ideal start

With the number one pick...……………………………………..

zion

Cavs fired Lue.

After firing Ty Lue, Cleveland planning to promote Larry Drew to interim coach, sources tell ESPN. Management meeting with Drew now.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1056564263492435973

Guess we know who the worst coach is haaaan

Welp, this was a matter of time

Lebron must be laughing

Ah, darn. I was hoping they'd wait and see if he'd get to 0-16 first.

Why? He's a big part of the reason that Lue was coaching here in the first place.

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Larry Drew lead candidate to replace

Could be Lue and Hue in a matter of a day

They fired him already? Wow...

P.S. I actually watched a little bit of the game yesterday.

We just need to scrap every thing