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So bombs get sent to a bunch of dems and you guys are arguing over the crap that 40 spews on the regular? smh.

I love my buddy 40 but he's a Trumpian cheerleader... that has nothing to do with some idiot (UNKNOWN & UNKNOWN POLITICS) sent these bombs out. I'd like to have just one thread on here that Vambo or 40 didn't feel the need to hijack so they could justify their 2016 vote.

Anyone suggesting that these dems sent these to themselves is just ridiculous and should never be taken seriously outside of an emergency room. Anyone suggesting Trump sent these himself is just as ridiculous.

Anyone who disagrees that Trump's rhetoric is divisive is lying to himself or lying to win an argument. Trump is the leader of the GOP mob, period.

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They sent Maxine TWO BOMBS! WTH?

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I have been watching Cuomo, Maxine, Schumer, Pelosi and the rest coming out and speaking about how we need civility and non violence in our politics now. What a change of heart they have had.

Interesting times.

Hope they catch this nut.

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ANOTHER BOMB discovered at approx. 4:45 this morning in NYC..word is it was addressed to Robert De Niro.


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Well considering that these packages appeared to go by snail mail as evident by the stamps and that they somehow were discovered in various mail facilities 1000's of miles apart conveniently within 48 hours or sooner of each other indicates a coordination effort...snail mail takes time to get across country....so now figure out what groups would benefit from such actions....anarchist for one...secondly a group looking for sympathy....as a group it is difficult to see how a GOP leaning group would benefit. Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.

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Similar Package Sent to Top Democrats Sent to Robert De Niro's NYC Restaurant: Sources

The NYPD said there is no need for an evacuation as the building was unoccupied at the time

By Jonathan Dienst, Marc Santia and Jennifer Millman
Published 3 hours ago | Updated 1 minute ago

A suspicious package and device similar to others sent to top Democrats this week was sent to a Greenwich Street building that houses offices Tribeca Films and Tribeca Grill that Robert De Niro owns, law enforcement and sources tell News 4.

The device was received sometime early Thursday, according to the sources familiar with the investigation. The NYPD said there is no need for an evacuation as the building was unoccupied at the time.

A law enforcement official briefed on the matter tells News 4 around 4 a.m. a worker saw the news and saw similarities in the package and called police. Another source said the package was addressed to De Niro and added that it had the same stamps and return address as the others -- Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

The bomb squad responded and removed the device, which was placed in an NYPD bomb vehicle to be taken to a safe area.

It comes after two more pipe bombs were discovered in packages and they were addressed to Rep. Maxine Waters of California, which had brought the total of explosive devices mailed to several high-profile critics of President Donald Trump and the New York City offices of CNN to seven. The one sent to De Niro's house, if linked, would be the eighth.

Packages addressed to Hillary Clinton, former President Obama, billionaire George Soros, ex-Attorney General Eric Holder, former CIA director John Brennan and Waters all appear to have the same characteristics, authorities and law enforcement officials with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

Two devices were sent to Waters; one was intercepted at a downtown Los Angeles mail facility. A second, found earlier in the day, was intercepted at a congressional mail facility in Capitol Heights, Maryland.

In a statement, Waters addressing the suspicious package saying: “I have been informed by U.S. Capitol Police that my Washington, DC office was the target of a suspicious package that has been referred to the FBI. I am appreciative of the law enforcement entities who intercepted the package and are investigating this matter. I unequivocally condemn any and all acts of violence and terror.”

Early Thursday, a suspicious package and device similar to others sent to top Democrats was sent to Robert De Niro’s house on Greenwich Street in NYC, law enforcement sources say.

None of the devices detonated and no one was injured, and authorities are examining the crude explosives and staying on the lookout for additional packages.

Federal authorities are also looking into the possibility there is an eighth package, possibly addressed to former Vice President Joe Biden. No such package has been intercepted, but officials are looking into the possibility one was spotted moving through the postal service. Nothing has been found at Biden's residence.

According to sources, the explosive devices were made from PVC pipe and contained a timer (likely a digital alarm clock) to set off the detonator. Additionally, the powder contained in the bombs comes from pyrotechnics. X-rays show there was likely shrapnel inside the PVC pipe, law enforcement officials say.

Multiple senior bomb technicians briefed on the case said the devices had all the components necessary to set off a successful explosion.

Meanwhile, as the investigation heats up, investigators examining the explosive devices will be working to glean forensic clues to help identify who sent them, gathering fingerprints and DNA evidence while tracking the origin of the packages and the components used to make the bombs.

Larry Johnson, a former head of criminal investigations for the U.S. Secret Service who also served as a special agent in charge of the presidential protective detail, said it is highly likely that the person or people who built the bombs have been previously flagged by law enforcement.

Two of the seven devices -- one addressed to Clinton's Chappaqua home, one to Obama in Washington, D.C. -- were intercepted by the U.S. Secret Service. Both were discovered at off-site locations and neither the former secretary of state nor former president were ever at risk, officials said.

Another one of the packages -- addressed to ex-CIA chief John Brennan, now an MSNBC contributor -- appeared similar to the others and forced an evacuation of CNN at the Time Warner Center in Manhattan on Wednesday.

NYPD Commissioner James O'Neill said the device appeared to be a "live explosive." He also said there was an envelope with white powder in the original packaging; that powder is being tested. Mayor de Blasio said there are no additional credible threats.

It was at that briefing that Gov. Cuomo revealed his Manhattan office had received a similar package, which law enforcement later determined was not at all linked to the others.

What We Know About Those Pipe Bombs Right Now
A senior law enforcement official told News 4 the item was a threatening letter, not a device, that referenced the Proud Boys street brawl from earlier this month. There was no explosive, the official said. A second official confirmed no device was mailed to the governor's office.

A Cuomo spokesman later issued a statement saying the item appeared to contain computer files on the Proud Boys.

However, in a subsequent statement, Cuomo's office said security at critical New York infrastructure points will be doubled following the discovery of the potential explosive devices.

CNN Worldwide president Jeff Zucker slammed the White House and its continued attacks on the media when responding to the suspicious package delivered to CNN offices at Time Warner Center.

"There is a total and complete lack of understanding at the White House about the seriousness of their continued attacks on the media. The President, and especially the White House Press Secretary, should understand their words matter. Thus far, they have shown no comprehension of that," Zucker's statement reads.

Law enforcement officials say all of the seven linked parcels were in manila outer packaging and the devices had stamps on them. The devices appear to be working explosives, sources say, but final analysis is pending further testing. News 4 obtained an image of one of the devices; it appeared to be crude.

The signature is nearly the same on the packages and all listed the return address as one belonging to ex-Democratic National Committee chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz. There is no suggestion Schultz had any involvement, law enforcement officials say. A device was also found at her Sunrise, Florida, office, which was the return address listed.

Investigators believe that was the package addressed to Holder; it appears it may have had the wrong address, which is why it was shipped back to the nominal sender (Schultz's return address).

An officer with the local police department in Florida where Schultz's office is located said the package had been removed by early afternoon and the bomb squad was "rendering it safe." He declined to say whether a live explosive had been in the package and warned, "There may be noise, there may not be noise."

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Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.


How exactly would a lone wolf carry out a nation wide concentrated effort?


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Has any explosive experts weighed in as to wheter these are actually bombs...every thing i hear is prefaced with "potential". The one description I got was PVC pipe with black tape containing unidentified powder and shards of glass with a watch battery...Not saying the intent to instill fear was not there...but was it really a bomb?

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the return address as one belonging to ex-Democratic National Committee chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz. There is no suggestion Schultz had any involvement, law enforcement officials say. A device was also found at her Sunrise, Florida, office, which was the return address listed.

Investigators believe that was the package addressed to Holder; it appears it may have had the wrong address, which is why it was shipped back to the nominal sender (Schultz's return address).


This is a typical stalker trait the FBI will be profiling. They send mail out with targets being both the return and sent to address’s. That way if they don’t get through to one it may get sent/returned to the other address. Drug traffickers also do this.


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Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.


How exactly would a lone wolf carry out a nation wide concentrated effort?


that is my point...a lone wolf nut job could not do that.... so what group benefits? anarchists and left leaning groups looking to drum up sympathy support as a false flag...a gop type group has no "positive" end game for doing this.

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Has any explosive experts weighed in as to wheter these are actually bombs...every thing i hear is prefaced with "potential". The one description I got was PVC pipe with black tape containing unidentified powder and shards of glass with a watch battery...Not saying the intent to instill fear was not there...but was it really a bomb?


What are you suggesting? That these aren’t real bombs? They’re putting on a show? Really?


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Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.


How exactly would a lone wolf carry out a nation wide concentrated effort?


that is my point...a lone wolf nut job could not do that.... so what group benefits? anarchists and left leaning groups looking to drum up sympathy support as a false flag...a gop type group has no "positive" end game for doing this.


Aww gotcha ... you’re better with this being a left wing extreme conspiracy vs a right wing extreme conspiracy. What a surprise. And the GOP leadership is now crying for civility from the left. rofl

And really? If you don’t think there’s a group of trump sheep that woudn’t want to physically hurt the Clintons, or any other trump resisting Democrat, I’ll point no further than the guy punching someone in the face not long after Trump offered to pay legal fees if someone would do it. Trump didn’t take any responsibility then. Where was the GOP call for civility then?


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Lol, it’s hilarious watching people try to state it’s a left wing group.

Every last person that received a bomb also happened to be part of the most batcrap crazy conspiracy theories pushed by none other than trump and his cult followers.

All of trumps biggest critics. And yet the right is like “nah can’t be us”.

Yea, the side who has bombed people before, shoots up abortion clinics, and believes in pizzagate so much they showed up and shot up the place somehow can’t imag this being done by their side.


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Has anyone seen Jr. ?


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Another bomb discovered in Delaware, addressed to Joe Biden.


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Has anyone seen Vambo?

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Has anyone seen Vambo?


Are Russian bots known to be serial bombers?


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lol Robert Deniro.....WHAT

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lol Robert Deniro.....WHAT


I’m relaxed, just kinda wondering why that’s a lol moment?


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Lol, it’s hilarious watching people try to state it’s a left wing group.

Every last person that received a bomb also happened to be part of the most batcrap crazy conspiracy theories pushed by none other than trump and his cult followers.

All of trumps biggest critics. And yet the right is like “nah can’t be us”.

Yea, the side who has bombed people before, shoots up abortion clinics, and believes in pizzagate so much they showed up and shot up the place somehow can’t imag this being done by their side.


So according to you, with all the calls from Democrats to be uncivil and stalk Republicans, it was you and your people who sent the white powder filled envelopes to the White House, Trumps entire family and the Pentagon recently.

Ok.

I on the other hand will blame the Nut who sent the Powder and the Nut who sent the bombs.

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lol Robert Deniro.....WHAT


I’m relaxed, just kinda wondering why that’s a lol moment?


The sheer ridiculousness. What in the world does Robert Deniro have to do with this? There are far more vocal critics of Trump if that (which it almost certainly is) why he was sent a bomb.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Lol, it’s hilarious watching people try to state it’s a left wing group.

Every last person that received a bomb also happened to be part of the most batcrap crazy conspiracy theories pushed by none other than trump and his cult followers.

All of trumps biggest critics. And yet the right is like “nah can’t be us”.

Yea, the side who has bombed people before, shoots up abortion clinics, and believes in pizzagate so much they showed up and shot up the place somehow can’t imag this being done by their side.


The dead giveaway is the list.

No liberal saboteur would even think to send them to Eric Holder or Maxine Waters, who are only relevant as boogeymen to brain-dead Breitbart Grandpas.

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lol Robert Deniro.....WHAT


I’m relaxed, just kinda wondering why that’s a lol moment?


The sheer ridiculousness. What in the world does Robert Deniro have to do with this? There are far more vocal critics of Trump if that (which it almost certainly is) why he was sent a bomb.


Robert DeNiro is a frequent figure for Breitbart to rile up the Grandpas.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/...s-largest-flag/

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/02/12/robert-de-niro-us-suffering-temporary-insanity/

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/...with-the-devil/

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/04/05/robert-de-niro-must-break-free-nras-absurd-logic/

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Lol, it’s hilarious watching people try to state it’s a left wing group.

Every last person that received a bomb also happened to be part of the most batcrap crazy conspiracy theories pushed by none other than trump and his cult followers.

All of trumps biggest critics. And yet the right is like “nah can’t be us”.

Yea, the side who has bombed people before, shoots up abortion clinics, and believes in pizzagate so much they showed up and shot up the place somehow can’t imag this being done by their side.


The dead giveaway is the list.

No liberal saboteur would even think to send them to Eric Holder or Maxine Waters, who are only relevant as boogeymen to brain-dead Breitbart Grandpas.


Which is exactly what you want to do if you want to do a bait and shift strategy making an event look like something else to be blamed.

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Maybe it was Colonel Mustard in the in the Ballroom, with a lead pipe.


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Lol, it’s hilarious watching people try to state it’s a left wing group.

Every last person that received a bomb also happened to be part of the most batcrap crazy conspiracy theories pushed by none other than trump and his cult followers.

All of trumps biggest critics. And yet the right is like “nah can’t be us”.

Yea, the side who has bombed people before, shoots up abortion clinics, and believes in pizzagate so much they showed up and shot up the place somehow can’t imag this being done by their side.


The dead giveaway is the list.

No liberal saboteur would even think to send them to Eric Holder or Maxine Waters, who are only relevant as boogeymen to brain-dead Breitbart Grandpas.


Which is exactly what you want to do if you want to do a bait and shift strategy making an event look like something else to be blamed.


I can't stop laughing.

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Man the right wingnuts are praying this isn’t their own doing. Whereas the rest of us just want these lunatics caught and brought to justice.


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From The National Review's Response to the 1963 Birmingham church bombing:

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"…he set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically as to raise the question whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateur—of a Communist, or of a crazed Negro."



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From The National Review's Response to the 1963 Birmingham church bombing:

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"…he set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically as to raise the question whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateur—of a Communist, or of a crazed Negro."




It sure didn’t take long for them to trot out the liberal provocateur angle already did it?


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Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.


How exactly would a lone wolf carry out a nation wide concentrated effort?


that is my point...a lone wolf nut job could not do that.... so what group benefits? anarchists and left leaning groups looking to drum up sympathy support as a false flag...a gop type group has no "positive" end game for doing this.



Occam's Razor: is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the one that requires the least speculation is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation.

Simplest explanation: Some Deplorable decided to build some devices and send them to 45's "enemies."

When dealing with stories like this, best to go with simple.


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Maybe a lonewolf GOp nut job, but not a group.


How exactly would a lone wolf carry out a nation wide concentrated effort?


that is my point...a lone wolf nut job could not do that.... so what group benefits? anarchists and left leaning groups looking to drum up sympathy support as a false flag...a gop type group has no "positive" end game for doing this.



Occam's Razor: is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the one that requires the least speculation is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation.

Simplest explanation: Some Deplorable decided to build some devices and send them to 45's "enemies."

When dealing with stories like this, best to go with simple.


So instead of Hillary just being a loser that did not appeal to the elctorate outside of metropolitan areas, the theory is that Russia operatives through complex internet schemes and bot psotings hi jacked the election in favor of Donald....gotcha

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That is 100% what Clemdawg said. I stand in awe of your reading comprehension.


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Well... you'd have to take that issue up with the 17 Dept of Justice agencies who made the claims and investigations you mentioned.

For the time being, I'm sticking with the angry dude in his basement, thank you.

In the end, you may be proven correct in your theory. If so, I'll tip my hat to you. While the jury's still out, feel free to see it differently than I.


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10th device found??? Breaking news banner on MSNBC says tenth! Did I miss some?

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Well... you'd have to take that issue up with the 17 Dept of Justice agencies who made the claims and investigations you mentioned.

For the time being, I'm sticking with the angry dude in his basement, thank you.

In the end, you may be proven correct in your theory. If so, I'll tip my hat to you. While the jury's still out, feel free to see it differently than I.


Some single wingnut makes the most sense. This is to amateurish to be a sophisticated terror group.

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Not to be macabre about it, but anyone with sophistication would have had the bombs do their job. The fact that we have 0 stories so far about a bomb explosion is one of the most surprising parts of this ordeal.


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The sad reality here is what's happened to the Republican party.

There used to be these strange outliers that most Republicans considered the fringe element to their party. People like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Candace Owens and the like. All of these people brought out that these bombs were a conspiracy of the left yesterday.

Today we see ranks of Republicans repeating these same wild conspiracy theories. No longer are the Ann Coulters and Rush Limbaughs the fringe of the Republican party. They are now the mainstream of it. They are spokespeople of it. Their ideas and rants are mainstream Republican thoughts.

The Republican party is no longer the party of family values, Christian values or personal responsibility. Sure, there are many of those type of people among their ranks. But they no longer lead their party. They are no longer the the lead spokespeople for their party. Those days are gone. Now it's the whackamoles, the crazies and the fringe who run it.


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When you consider that John Brennan not only had his name misspelled, but he doesn't even work for CNN, that's pretty telling. He actually is a contributor for NBCNews and MSNBC. Boy these left wing bombers sure know how to make it look like a right winger. lmao


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Trump back at his divisiveness today:










With all that's wrong with this country, day after day this bozo has time to watch Fox News and do this crap. So sad.

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