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Garrett has 7 Sacks in 7 Games this year 14 in in His first 18 games, now is it because we expect him to get sacks every week that we aren't talking about how great he is playing, or how great he will be throughout his career?

C'mon Pastor, why all the threads have to be about Hue?...

;-)

He's definitely a force on the field ... no denying that he's impactful at a key position.

He needs to develop some counters IMO and shore up his run defense

BUT we also need to limit his snaps IMO

I think once he learns a few more moves he will be the best to ever do it as a pass rusher, but he's really bad against the run. I think he needs to have his workload reduced until that part of his game gets better. Not as punishment, but just to keep him fresher for what he does really well. Not to mention trying to keep him healthy. Funny story, me and the family flew into cleveland last winter, it was after the season ended. Getting on the shuttle and myles and his dad get on. Myles had a roller and a guitar case..First I didn't think it was him but hard to mistake someone that big. ended up only ones on the elevator to bag claim as well. Nice guy, well spoken. You can tell he comes from a good family.

Not jumping on Hue but I think Myles Garrett will be around here a little longer than Hue Jackson ... JMHO

Before the season I said if Garret doesn't get 15 sacks this year it will be somewhat of a disappointment. However every week, I have called out his dominance with the exception of the Saints game where he was good, but not his usual great.


The kid is a superstar already and I think he's 22 years old? Surreal.

Myles Garrett just does Myles Garrett things.

Even when he isn't adding to popular statistics, he is impacting every play.

J/C

If myles didn't get held 12-15 times a game - he would have already been moving in on the sack record, IMO.

Last game, I lost count after 12 holds.

Garrett if you watch is getting double teamed and held on nearly every snap ...

But that too has an impact on plays. When Myles is double teamed it frees up someone else.

Hot take:

I don’t think Myles Garrett is ever offsides. I just think the refs have never seen someone get off the ball that fast.

Think how many sacks he'd have if he wasn't held about half the time.

I’ve been an ardent fan and defender of Garrett on the post game threads. Lot of the previous posts echo what I think. The guy is top 5 at his position as a rusher. He’s young. He’ll get better if you can even imagine it. That is the kind of player you build around. How people can be remotely disappointed in his production and the impact he creates is beyond me but I’m not an X and O guy. He’s disruptive and he forces teams to game plan for him. He can get better but the edge rushing ability he has is phenomenal. To criticise his run defense, which has improved -watch the games and it’s not just Garrett not setting the edge - is like complaining your Ferrari doesn’t fit in parking spaces. With time he will start to recognise more and more and not get caught shooting upfield. He’s a bonafide blue chip talent, elite.

I agree, I wish I could see replays of his (2?) false starts because I told my wife both times I think he went on the snap but moved so fast the refs thought he was offsides, and the networks never showed them again. Those two would have been slaughter sacks. The refs probably peed themselves a little. Maybe it's Garret's love of dinosaurs that make those moves look like a velociraptor attack.

I agree. I even watched replays in slow mo - it’s so close it looks like he jumps but his explosion is simply stunning. I think he gets 20 sacks one season. And yes, he is routinely held without it getting called. Maybe it happens to all edge rushers, I don’t watch many to be fair outside ours.

How many of those were there in the Chargers game when the now-fired ref screwed up the false start call?

I only remember one from that game, and I think the other was Tampa (the two I saw anyway).

I remember being a kid and people saying this about Michael Dean Perry as well.

MG against JT's quick starts. Who you gonna flag?

Gives us some idea about was Cruz was looking for (AND what he was ignoring!).

Message sent to some officials. Maybe we get a little fairer game Sunday.

That is atrocious. He deserves some calls. And he has been drawing doubles.

This wasn’t about us getting hosed ... not even close ...

Had zero to do with “FAIR” in that sense of the word ...

That is a comforting thought. Right now, today, which one has more upside? Maybe somebody wants to trade for Huey.

Myles is a beast. He will have his numbers at the end of the year, and they will rank near the top for a long time.

Yeah, and you'd hope they'll improve as he gets experience and better players around hiim

The better a healthy Ogbah plays the more Garrett becomes unstoppable.

So what was it about IYO?

true

It was about an official that continued to miss calls ... not one that was playing unfair and tipping the scales against the browns ...

j/c:

I don't think anyone threw more support for drafting Myles than I did. I thought he was a slam-dunk first overall pick.

Thus, I have really high expectations for him and have watched him closely. I think I sometimes judge him too harshly because I want to see multiple sacks each game. However, the guy is among the league leaders in sacks and no one gets multiple sacks in every game.

Myles is progressing nicely. He is a force and he makes impactful plays. I also think the questions about his effort can be laid to rest. I also think that the coaching staff have reduced his reps a bit in the last few games and that's probably a wise move.

And he should be held to high expectations ... the guy was the first overall pick at a premier position. I know I've said he SHOULD be a Von Miller type player .. and maybe that's extreme, but he should definitely be a top 10% player at his spot (top 5 in the league)

He looked gassed in the Oakland game, they need to monitor his fatigue in shootout type games like that.

True, and he got dinged up as well. But he was playing like his life depended on it. He was trying to single-handedly will his team to victory. Even the announcers mentioned it.

Michael Dean Perry was quick off the ball like Garrett ...

Michael Dean Perry very nearly took a hand-off from the opposing QB a few times each season.

Myles Garrett is the 1st ELITE defensive player since the return that the Browns have had.
I rate him higher than Watt or Miller simply based on the different blocking schemes
he has to face because the Browns are often behind in the score and offenses can
offer max protection.
imagine if he played for KC how many sacks he would have
7 sacks for a DE playing for a team that is losing in the 4th q..
impressive

He's been very good, but better than Watt or Miller, c'mon man.

At minimum, he's proven himself to be on par with them.

Watt and MG have a ways to go to get to Von Millers level ... he’s been doing and by doing it i mean TAKING OVER GAMES for 4 or 5 years now ...

MG and Watt have started to “flash” and are inching closer to Von Millers level but there not there yet ...

MG’s done it for 1/2 a year ... way to small of a sample size to put him in Von’s category yet ... he can certainly get there .. but he’s not there yet ... a ways to go for both of them IMO ..