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We need to offer Oakland a #3 for Cooper and give them a #2 instead if necessary ... TODAY !!!


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j/c:

Would anyone be interested in Patrick Peterson? I heard he might be available. He's older, but him and Ward would be sweet.

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Peterson would be a great pickup and I don't think he will cost us an arm and a leg being he is an older ...


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To me (and I can't believe I'm saying this) the issue isn't our secondary, it's our run defense ... DEs and LBs were exposed big time.

And when we get burnt in the passing game, a lot of times it's LB coverage


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Would anyone be interested in Patrick Peterson? I heard he might be available. He's older, but him and Ward would be sweet.


Yes please


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Btw----Peterson is not a one-dimensional corner. He is very good against the run, too.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Peterson would be a great pickup and I don't think he will cost us an arm and a leg being he is an older ...


Patrick Peterson is 28.

My guess is that if Peterson is actually available, that some team that is sold out to win this year (someone like the Rams, Chiefs, Saints, etc) would be willing to pay a premium for a player like him. I would think Peterson would cost a first round pick. He is still very good and on a reasonable contract. Our pick might still be in the top ten. We can’t afford to give up a potential top ten pick in a season we [i]might[/] be competitive.

I would love to have Peterson and would not be mad if we traded for him.

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Those are good points. But, I don't think Peterson is going to fall off the proverbial cliff. I think he will still be excellent next year and the year after. I also think those are the two years when our team should be most ready to compete.

With that said, I have no idea what the compensation would be for Peterson. Guys in the NFL typically don't draw much in return when they are traded unless it is someone like Mack.

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At one point Peterson was a dynamic returner. If I remember correctly.
Does he still do that?


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We need more offensive threats.. get Cooper and don't look back.


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I dont understand the love for cooper ... hes struggled to say the least the last few years ...

I want nothing to do with him ...

I’d rather work with Higgins, Willies, Ratley and since we seem to covet great atheletes that can’t catch i’ll throw Calloway in the mix ... then spend a draft pick on cooper cause were n a short term bind ... i’dmuch rather go sign someone off the street ...

Matthews or Dez ... i’m Sure there’s others ... heck ... for now i’d take Leslie over him once u throw cost into the equation ...




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Is Cooper even awake yet ? He was crushed in the game yesterday with a huge head hit. Left the game with a bad look.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
At one point Peterson was a dynamic returner. If I remember correctly.
Does he still do that?


I think the idea was to have him stop returning punts this year.

I did just look it up and he has returned 1 punt this year for 7 yards.

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Outside looking in, I always thought Cooper was pretty good...

After doing some digging deeper... yikes..



I'd still give a 3 or 4 for him. Sadly, he'd still be an upgrade.


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Former 49ers’ and Raiders’ LB NaVorro Bowman is scheduled to work out for the Browns on Tuesday, per source.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Outside looking in, I always thought Cooper was pretty good...

After doing some digging deeper... yikes..



I'd still give a 3 or 4 for him. Sadly, he'd still be an upgrade.



We need to sign him and go for the trifecta!


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We need to sign him and go for the trifecta!


Trifecta? You're an optimist. What about Quincy Morgan, Andre Davis, and Dennis Northcutt?

Edit: Okay, they were before 2007, but still, we have had a penchant for receivers with the dropsies.

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Only 3 players.

And we drafted two of them. Why are we so unlucky.


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Former 49ers’ and Raiders’ LB NaVorro Bowman is scheduled to work out for the Browns on Tuesday, per source.


He might not be great in pass coverage, but he is a pretty good player.

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Adam Schefter
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Former 49ers’ and Raiders’ LB NaVorro Bowman is scheduled to work out for the Browns on Tuesday, per source.


He might not be great in pass coverage, but he is a pretty good player.
he was at least, i dont know much about him now

Is there a reason he was a FA?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Not positive, but I assume because he is older and has been injured.

Worth a look-see.

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Sources close to the Browns report on Tuesday, representatives of the Browns are visiting Golds Gym to search for people willing to work out for them.


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Did they also try planet fitness?


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Did they also try planet fitness?


They’re interested in Golds diggers only!


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Only 3 players.

And we drafted two of them. Why are we so unlucky.


I don't think its about luck. I think its about our scouting approach that overvalues raw athleticism (speed/size) and undervalues actual production. You know, making plays. IMO, the banner on the wall in the Receivers room should say:
Rule #1 - catch the damn ball!

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Only 3 players.

And we drafted two of them. Why are we so unlucky.


I don't think its about luck. I think its about our scouting approach that overvalues raw athleticism (speed/size) and undervalues actual production. You know, making plays. IMO, the banner on the wall in the Receivers room should say:
Rule #1 - catch the damn ball!


Wasn’t Edwards one of the most productive receivers ever at Michigan? Cooper’s stats were ridiculous if I remember correctly.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Did they also try planet fitness?


Here is a shoe in!!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Only 3 players.

And we drafted two of them. Why are we so unlucky.


When you draft players who have questionable hands in college and then they have questionable hands in the NFL - that is not being unlucky.


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NFL Trade Deadline: Demaryius, Clinton-Dix, Garcon, Janoris Jenkins Could Be Moved


News and notes to know heading into Week 8…

1. It’s two days ahead of the trade deadline, and I’m not sure the Raiders are done yet. There’s attention on Derek Carr, of course, but I’d be pretty surprised if they moved him at this point. Two names you should keep an eye on: Former first-round picks Karl Joseph and Gareon Conley. Joseph has played 11 defensive snaps through seven games. Conley, on the other hand, is playing plenty at corner, and word is the Raiders are driving a harder bargain on him with interested suitors.

2. While we’re there on former first-round picks, Packers safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is another who could potentially be moved before Tuesday. It’s not that he’s fallen out of favor—he’s actually played every snap on defense for Green Bay through six games. But he’s in a contract year, and the Packers have some depth in the secondary to play with.

3. Another veteran on the block: Niners receiver Pierre Garcon. He’s banged up right now (shoulder, knee) and 32 years old, but he could certainly still serve a contender in a complementary role down the stretch. Safety Jimmie Ward (playing on an $8.5 million fifth-year option) is another one who’s been involved in trade discussion, but my sense is the Niners would need to get something significant to deal him.

4. While Patrick Peterson gets the most attention publically, I’ve gotten the sense the player that’s drawn the most trade interest on the Cardinals roster has actually been Chandler Jones, who may be the third-best pass rusher in football right now behind only Khalil Mack and Von Miller. Also, Chandler’s contract is suddenly remarkably affordable—after Sunday, he’ll be due $6.6 million for the rest of the year, then a total of $48 million over the next three years (2019-21). Oh, and he’s also just a year older than Mack. All of which is why Arizona has told suitors that he is absolutely not available.

5. Is the Giants’ fire sale still on? Among the team’s pricy vets, the player bandied about most has been Janoris Jenkins. He’s another good player with a good contract—$5.8 million for the rest of this year after Sunday, and signed for another two years for $22.5 million.

6. The Browns will listen to offers for quarterback Tyrod Taylor, I’m told. And his contract structure actually might make it workable. He’s making $16 million this year, but $6 million of it came in a March roster bonus. That means a team trading for him would only be responsible, both in cash and cap, for what’s left of his $10 million base salary. As of Monday, that figure will be $5.29 million.

7. Browns-Steelers, by the way, should be one to watch. As I’ve heard, not much changed in those offensive meeting rooms during the workweek, so it should be business as usual—with coordinator Todd Haley calling the offense for rookie Baker Mayfield. As for Pittsburgh, this could be their last game before getting Le’Veon Bell back, with the trade deadline coming and going this week.

8. And the pre-trade deadline game to watch has to be Chiefs-Broncos. Denver is 3-4 and on the fringes of the AFC chase. My understanding is that the outcome of the game at Arrowhead will color John Elway’s approach to the deadline. A lopsided loss would very likely open the deal-making door. Names? Demaryius Thomas is one who’d be in play, and a benefit to trading him would be creating opportunities for rookie Courtland Sutton (though fellow rookie DaeSean Hamilton’s injury does create a depth concern). Two others to watch would be edge rusher Shane Ray and linebacker Brandon Marshall. Teams are also monitoring the corners there—Chris Harris and Bradley Roby—but the team’s lack of talent beyond those two would make it a little difficult to deal either.

9. A lot was made of Cody Kessler getting first-team reps this week as the Jaguars prepared for their game in London this morning against the Eagles. I’m told things really weren’t much different than usual this week. Yes, Kessler got some reps, but Blake Bortles still took the lion’s share with the first team (by a better than 2-to-1 ratio). That doesn’t mean Bortles won’t get yanked against Philly. It does mean there isn’t exactly a quarterback competition being staged in practice.

10. Vikings DE Everson Griffen will return to the field on Sunday night after being a full participant in practice through the week, but the expectation is the coaches will work him back in gradually. I’m told he showed some rust and still needs to get back into football shape; you might be looking at a spot player Sunday night against the Saints. That said, getting Griffen back period is a huge win for that defense, he showed great energy and enthusiasm, and here’s hoping he has his life in order.

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NFL.com reporting that Desean Jackson has requested a trade from Tampa. I'd love to make a move for him. Gives the team a little speed, which I feel Mayfield needs given Callaway having some struggles.

Desean Jackson and Jarvis Landry is a great mix of talent and experience for Mayfield to utilize.

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I don't disagree with his talent. But at 31 years old I'm not sure he's the type of player that fits into the future of the team.


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I don't disagree with his talent. But at 31 years old I'm not sure he's the type of player that fits into the future of the team.


Agreed, but at a $11m cap hit, I'd take his now over the future. Just to get someone who can help Mayfield with his transition.

We're not in an immediate position of needing the cap space. He's got $11M this year, an opt out next year or a $10M salary. While I don't think we'd get $21M worth of production out of Desean Jackson over the next season and a half, I do think he's got enough left in the tank to ease the pressure on Mayfield while he's gaining experience.

At the moment, our receivers aren't getting open and Mayfield is currently burdened with the highest percentage of drops in the league at 9.1%. We need something.

The plus with Jackson is his experience. It won't take long to get adjusted to the playbook, so he could quickly help.

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You can roll unused cap space over to the next year.

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Jackson is probably a candidate to go to a contender at his age ... my guess: HOUSTON with the injury to Fuller


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Good call ... he’d be a great fit there ..




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I agree ... he'd be dynamic


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Golden Tate available for a mid round pick ... a 5th might do it?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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