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Let me elaborate on that.

IT'S THE FRONT OFFICE that the Owner brings in that's been the problem since 1999.

Front Office overhaul is what brings about MASSIVE ROSTER OVERHAUL. NOT a HC or Coordinator change.

WE witnessed it this year with Dorsey, Wolf and Highsmith. And it was needed.

It ain't done yet. There's more needed. But this roster WILL NOT BE PURGED BECAUSE DORSEY AND CREW WILL STILL BE HERE.

One more FA & Draft.

The future is even MORE BRIGHT today than it was yesterday.

WE have several of the KEY positions locked down and there's NO DAMN WAY Dorsey is gonna let ANY OF THEM GO. Regardless of the HC, OC or DC.

Two immediate concerns I have after watching yesterday's presser with Dorsey and Haslam.

Dorsey seemed rattled. He normally can't string a coherent sentence together, but yesterday was particularly bad. I'm sure it's not easy after just helping to fire two people I'm sure he liked personally, but he just seemed off. Don't know if that means anything but he wasn't his usual confident self.

Haslam being asked about the organization structure and pretty much stating nothing will change and the next coach hire will be a collaborative effort. Haslam normally says all the right things, but this guy must have an ego longer than the I80. He considers himself as part of the solution and not part of the problem. Geesh.

I believe that to be the case. Addition by subtraction. There is little (if any) lack of continuity as "promotions" were made from within the organization. FK I expect, will keep the current playbook and I don't forsee any changes defensively. I believe we'll be just fine...

This is one of those 'was that addressed to me?' moments. I started the thread, so if you are making a general statement, it gets addressed to me. So I'm asking, are you commenting directly to me, or generally to the thread?

Nowhere did I say I think Hue shouldn't have been fired. Nor did I say he should have been. What's done is done and my opinion will have no effect on that.

What I am saying is this organization HAS to learn patience and let a rebuilding process proceed through completion or the team will never be good. Since 2008 when Romeo Crennel was fired after 4 years, no HC has had more than 2 years until Hue. The history of this franchise over the last 20 years is that they have never once completed a rebuild.

I have said this many times before, It wasn't the firing that has been the problem in Cleveland, it has been the hiring.

Except for Butch Davis and probably Chud, IMHO they all deserved to be fired, specially Hue.

That's what I mean when I say Dorsey sounds more unintelligent than Hue in press conferences. The guy constantly says words incorrectly, uses words incorrectly, and then, repeats himself over and over again in one long ass run-on sentence.

Public speaking is no way an indication of someone being smart or not. I know I am not a good public speaker. But man, my ears start to bleen when listening to him talk.

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I couldn't have said it better myself, Device!

While changing HC's isn't good, I think changing GM's is a lot worse. They control the rosters. Hopefully, we can avoid that for awhile this time. Is there a team that has ever gone through as many GM's as we have since the return over a similar period?

They weren't to you. They were designed to get others to join in his mocking of my opinions.

You're good, bro.

Vers I am fine with you disagreeing with me on this and respect your opinion. Again, it is my opinion and doesn't mean I will be right. However, the way I am looking at it is let's see how we come out at home against KC. It will be a real test with the team they have. Then we have a bye which should allow us to get back some of our injured guys and heal up as well as work on anything new our coaches want to do. After the 2 weeks let's see how we play and how the team looks. I'm willing to at least give them that.

The single biggest problem this franchise has faced in 20 years is the constant turnover. It was the one reason I was against firing Hue despite his obvious flaws.

Homes, you are a good poster and a nice guy. I am not trying to get you--or anyone--to agree w/me. Different opinions are a good thing in my mind. I was a teacher. I never wanted all the kids to agree when forming an opinion. I just don't like being mocked for my opinions and that happens far too often on here.

When regimes change, there are also changes in player personnel. We both like Dorsey, but look at the roster turnover since he arrived. I think it's around 60 percent. Say we bring in Riley.......just think of how many guys won't "fit" what he wants to do. Then, we'll here how we have to give him more time. A year later, we'll hear how we should have never hired a college coach, especially one from the Big 12 where they don't run pro-style offenses and defense is a vulgar word.

It never ends w/this owner, media, and some of our fan base. I truly thought we were close this year. Unfortunately, our owner didn't have the fortitude to stay the course.

Again Homes, that is just my opinion. I don't expect you to agree. I just like that you and I can disagree w/out all the petty and nasty character attacks.

as anyone ever asked the question
"are the Haslams really cut out to be NFL owners?
they are worst ownership in the NFL.
the numbers support that.

Hue fooled a lot of people....

continuity? Thats all we have is continuity

The guy who mocked people for their "dumb-ass" football opinions, told people they didn't know anything about football, and tried to separate people into two groups of "who knows" and "doesn't know football" based on Hue Jackson being a good coach is now mad for being mocked.

I love this board!

No. We need an owner who will get out of the ^%$##@! way and not think he is crucial to the process.

Rish, Haslam is and always will be a concern. However, I get why for the remainder of the he did not change the structure and say "effective immediately, GW now reports to Dorsey." Dorsey did not hire GW and quite frankly it changes nothing for the remainder of the season.

Haslam did say the structure would be reviewed after the season.

I do believe Dorsey will be able to hire his guy and beginning next season the chain of command will be HC---> Dorsey ---> Haslam. I think Dorsey would threaten to walk otherwise.

I believe this is Dorsey's team moving forward and Haslam will allow Dorsey to do his job and run the show.

As always, time will tell.

While we certainly don't know if the structure will or won't change, to this point Haslam has chosen to be a total control freak when it comes to his management style of the team. For some this is a character trait that's impossible to change. All we can do is hope this isn't the case. So far I haven't seen any indication this will change.